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M48A1 - keep or sale?

M48A1 patch 0.8.0

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Poll: M48A1 - keep or sale? (265 members have cast votes)

Keep or sale M48A1

  1. Keep (123 votes [46.42%])

    Percentage of vote: 46.42%

  2. Sale (80 votes [30.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.19%

  3. Whatever (62 votes [23.40%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.40%

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Mandalor #1 Posted 13 September 2012 - 07:21 PM

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Hi all.

Due to patch 0.8.0 changelogs I wonder about mentioned tank. For now huge nerf is in plan, so... This tank will loose his right to exist. The worst speed, armor. Accuracy like in T-62A. Only good gun depression and agility. I'm so confused right now. And I ask you to help me make decission.

theghostcat #2 Posted 13 September 2012 - 07:25 PM

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I wouldn't do anything until it actually goes live.  

I imagine we have a 3rd test coming.

saml6131 #3 Posted 13 September 2012 - 07:26 PM

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If the nerf's stay as they currently are, I'm selling mine for 3.5 million credits for the British tech tree, when it comes in the next patch. But I'm not selling it yet. I'm waiting until the patch is released to see if its final.

Hackbraten #4 Posted 13 September 2012 - 07:26 PM

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I dont play USA tanks, but dont shell it, wait till 8.0 and try out.

Mandalor #5 Posted 13 September 2012 - 07:36 PM

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Yeah, I'm waiting for 0.8.0 going live but there are no changes for this tank in test2... But I hope there'll be test3 and WG will rethink nerfing this tank in that way.

dtham #6 Posted 13 September 2012 - 11:36 PM

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As other say I wouldn't sell it untill the 8.0 is on. Honestly I hope they'd dismiss the accuracy on the move nerf and the tracks hp nerf and there'll be 3rd test for 8.0 otherwise goodbye patton III (and mabye whole game, I'll see).

Annihilism #7 Posted 14 September 2012 - 10:13 AM

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Probably selling mine.

I've already started to go russian tree since thats the only tree wich almost never gets nerfed.

I'm sick and tired of WG ruining just another tank because only good players play them.

After the nerf the M48 will be nothing more than a T110 with no armor and a higher profile. Seriously WG? Why did this tank need a nerf, and why such a big one?

I could have understand if the accuracy would have been nerfed. But nerfing the RoF by this much just makes the tank into a PoS....

- The Batchat is fast and can do alot of dmg in a short amount of time
- The T62A is just allround good with high speed, good manouverability, it bounces alot and it has a very decent gun
- The E50M is super accurate, bounces stuff like a king tiger
- M48, ... view range????

Wow so thats it, all the other tanks have their strong points and what does the M48 get.. view range. In exchange for that it has:
- The lowest speed
- The crappiest armor
- Worst DPM (after 8.0)
- Highest profile

Awesome job! another tank ruined and more reason for me to never touch any of the british tanks since they will probably be treated just like the USA line.

In addition to that the T30, T110E4 (this needed a nerf, but not this much..) and even the T110 get nerfed again as well. M48 is the last USA tank i have grinded, I'm getting tired of being punished for being good at a tank and not choosing what the masses do (russian tree) so i might as well join the russian bandwagon and abandon the USA tree completely.

hazzin #8 Posted 14 September 2012 - 11:41 AM

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View Postsaml6131, on 13 September 2012 - 07:26 PM, said:

If the nerf's stay as they currently are, I'm selling mine for 3.5 million credits for the British tech tree, when it comes in the next patch. But I'm not selling it yet. I'm waiting until the patch is released to see if its final.
I'm doing the same, I have almost 100k xp saved just for Brits, so hopefully it will get me to T6. Though I won't be selling M48 until after the release of 8.1 patch, because I know that I would spend those credits on something else. :Smile_Default:

shproty #9 Posted 14 September 2012 - 02:19 PM

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View PostAnnihilism, on 14 September 2012 - 10:13 AM, said:

Probably selling mine.

- The Batchat is fast and can do alot of dmg in a short amount of time
- The T62A is just allround good with high speed, good manouverability, it bounces alot and it has a very decent gun
- The E50M is super accurate, bounces stuff like a king tiger
- M48, ... view range????
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T62A same carton as M48.  About maneuverability - it  is  much  slower than T54 in all parameters + it 2  times  bigger.  Gun is realy weak for 10 tier ..... 320 average damage is nothing :(  I can give  you screen pictures  where  T62 front  240mm armor easy penetrated (on T54 front  part  normally bouncing/reflecting damage)
E50M turret  is very weak. And huge lower hull front making it easy to penetrate. More of that it is burnig very often (sometimes  even  from front shots).
Bat.ch.  is realy mistake of the game ....... Why this stupid  french  got 390 average damage ?  Why any 10 tier must die just only giving him 2  shots maximum ?
More  of that this  french  bounces or  receiving  shots without damage better than any other meds .......

My  opinion in the  conditions we have  now - M48 is totally useless.  Patton is much better.  And you not losing  money with  it :)
M48 can`t  maneuver  like Pershing/Patton. It  is so slow, that you that heavies overtaking  if  they  speed  up  from  small hill (not speaking about  overrunning - even E75 easy rotating against him) Size is so huge, that  it is bigger than almost all 9-10 tier heavies (exept  Maus  and E100)  Arty  strikes it without  problem - M48 can`t  avoid it like Patton

I have all of  them. After playing  about 50 games possible  to  make  some  analizys.  Starting grid when 2-3 meds leveled  with 10 tier heavy or TD  normally gives a  defeat  for  team as  they all useless..... (exept french)

Edited by shproty, 14 September 2012 - 02:30 PM.


fattoler #10 Posted 14 September 2012 - 04:29 PM

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Well I only just got mine, so probably no, but I also got my Patton just a few weeks before they nerfed that to make way for the M48...

Sille #11 Posted 15 September 2012 - 11:43 AM

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when i tried out the T62A on the test server i was amazed how good its armor is, specially in angles and a hulldown=P

sheep6665 #12 Posted 15 September 2012 - 12:09 PM

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I didn't even researched the PattonIII but it's state on the test server makes me cry :(

Mandalor #13 Posted 15 September 2012 - 12:17 PM

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That's what I mean. If M48A1 will stay in shape from 0.8.0 2nd TS then... Good bye. Or maybe will keep it till patch 0.8.1 or 0.8.2 (hope dies last).

FinXynL #14 Posted 15 September 2012 - 12:39 PM

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I think this awesome tank won't be my favorite after 8.0 but maybe I still keep it for a while.

I'm going to try it in test servers

bombuhr #15 Posted 15 September 2012 - 01:22 PM

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on 8.0 test 2 the accuracy at long range is non existant. It used to be nearly as accurate as the E50M.
you also actually notice the longer reload.

I'm not saying it's useless or anything, as it's the only med that has any gun depression to speak of, I suppose it still has it's own niche.
But it's defently tuned down.

Suppose it's just a matter of getting used to.

shproty #16 Posted 15 September 2012 - 02:13 PM

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View PostSille, on 15 September 2012 - 11:43 AM, said:

when i tried out the T62A on the test server i was amazed how good its armor is, specially in angles and a hulldown=P

Now  it  is not. Can  show  you screen with  my T62A like cheese from  front :) And  that  is  not  top tier  guns ....... :) T54 could  avoid  at  least 30%  of  those  shots

Sille #17 Posted 15 September 2012 - 02:39 PM

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View Postshproty, on 15 September 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

Now  it  is not. Can  show  you screen with  my T62A like cheese from  front :) And  that  is  not  top tier  guns ....... :) T54 could  avoid  at  least 30%  of  those  shots
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i play a M48 i am usally used to 0 bounces.....and then suddenly i get a tank that just need a good angle or a good hulldown and it does bounce T9 and T10 if lucky....

Belieber_PL #18 Posted 15 September 2012 - 06:08 PM

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Was planning to go for M48 Patton as my first top tier tank, but after extensive testing on the test server, I have concluded, that it would be much more beneficial to get the T-62A firs, then maybe get the E-50M as a second.
M48 Patton and Bat Chat are not currently on my to do list, as M48 is no longer competitive, and the Bat Chat is only strong in platoon or TC/CW.

dtham #19 Posted 16 September 2012 - 10:37 PM

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I bought M48A1 as my first t10 medium (and first t10 at all) and I found it nice to play. Couple days ago I bought E-50M. It's fine tank, I enjoy playing it but somehow I can't make it work. Trying to find the right play style. It is strange but the way I played E-50 just doesn't work. But so far I find M48A1 better than E-50M but don't know what the nerf will do with it. So now I'm going to keep it and see. But I'm already thinking about selling E-50M and rebuying E-50 back (something what hasn't come to my mind in the case of M48A1).

Mandalor #20 Posted 16 September 2012 - 11:15 PM

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Rate of Fire: Goes from 7.5 RPM(rounds per minute) down to 6.82 RPM
Turret Traverse: Goes from 42 degrees down to 40 degrees
Aim Time: Goes from 1.7 seconds up to 2.0 seconds
Dispersion while moving turret increased by 100% from .06 to .12
Accuracy after shooting nerfed from 3.5 to 4.0
Terrain modifer for driving on non-hard terrain raised by 5%





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