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Rodina67 #41 Posted 12 October 2012 - 06:40 PM

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The Amx-13/90 is my favorite tank. Both in-game and real life. Its design is as unique as a Trabi or a Vw Beetle and at its time it was revolutionary as hell! I’m not completely sure, but I think that it may well be the first tank ever to employ both the oscillating turret and an auto-loader.
I’m not a shiny player record-wise but when I got the Amx-13/75 I immediately felt like it was the vehicle I expected it to be. And although I fared better with the 75, it’s the 90 which gives me more satisfaction.
Some talked about the “numerous” bad points of the tank. To those I’d say: rubbish. As always, it’s your ability to find the right way of fighting with it. There’s so much fun when you’ve done that. I was once on Prokhorovka in the bottom of one of that hilly zone beside the tree-alley. A Tiger (H) appeared. He charged me one on one. I set in reverse keeping a constant 15-20m between us. I started shooting my “magical” 6-round salvo. By the third he was finished. I know it was a T7 heavy. But still with an awesome 88mm gun and more HPs than my little light tank. What I liked the most was that all the shooting was on the move. With all that “awful” aiming speed some spoke of.

Slyspy #42 Posted 13 October 2012 - 02:14 AM

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Well done. But the aim time and accuracy on the move really is poor. Generally, though, I would say that 0.8.0 benefitted the 13/90. The physics have improved the handling significantly, although the gun depression and the characteristic autoloader are still major faults IMO.

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Trobby #43 Posted 13 October 2012 - 12:38 PM

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Once played right, AMX 13 90 is a really addictive tank. It can play like both a scout and a medium tank.

It is indeed, a really difficult tank to play. Unlike the average heavy tank, mistakes can be very unforgiving with the 90.

They should swap the tier of AMX 13 90 and Lorraine 40t around - Make Lorraine 40t tier 8 and AMX 13 90 tier 9...The AMX 13 90 is just better in all aspects than that Lorraine shit.

truttakungen #44 Posted 13 October 2012 - 02:09 PM

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Op??.. <insult removed>.... all french have been heavily nerfed and they are NOT op in any way... <insults and profanity removed>


Insults and profanity are not welcome on these forums.  You can and should make your point in a much more polite and friendly manner.  Thanks in advance.

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Poniedzielski #45 Posted 14 October 2012 - 01:14 AM

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Aiming time is comparable to T34...

Slyspy #46 Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:27 PM

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View PostPoniedzielski, on 14 October 2012 - 01:14 AM, said:

Aiming time is comparable to T34...

Actually it is a little faster, but I don't see the point you are trying to make.

haclya #47 Posted 18 October 2012 - 01:53 PM

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get you self a Amx-13/90then i bet you will come back and complane about no penetration and you can't snipe.Is realy good to flank and hull down but 1 shot that pentrate all it takes most times and is dead or half crew dead or amorack or engine damage.

delaBoujardiere #48 Posted 19 October 2012 - 06:29 AM

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View Posthaclya, on 18 October 2012 - 01:53 PM, said:

get you self a Amx-13/90then i bet you will come back and complane about no penetration and you can't snipe.Is realy good to flank and hull down but 1 shot that pentrate all it takes most times and is dead or half crew dead or amorack or engine damage.

Is this Krakowska sausage english???? :Smile_amazed:

Kyphros #49 Posted 19 October 2012 - 07:56 AM

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It's supposed to. But there's worse than that, here on the internet.

Poniedzielski #50 Posted 21 October 2012 - 01:05 AM

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View PostSlyspy, on 15 October 2012 - 12:27 PM, said:

Actually it is a little faster, but I don't see the point you are trying to make.

Fully pimped T34 with vert stab and gld will have even lower aimtime than fully pimped[gld] amx 13 90...

5_InchFl0ppy #51 Posted 21 October 2012 - 01:30 AM

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There's nothing OP about this tank, the real reason why you are being picked on by the person driving it is for combination of things, either you're already badly damaged, in a bad position and alone, or in a tank that can and needs to be killed quickly, such as arty or a scout.
Its very rare that you can take out a full hp heavy, even the same tier as you, because they tend to have more hp than you have the potential damage stored in the magazine, factor in bounces and 0 damage pens with that and chances are you'll hurt them a lot less than an on paper calculation would have you believe.
I think previous posts have covered the part about the tank itself having no armor and every other shot you take results in a dead crew member or fire so no need to go there .
I don't have masses of experience driving it, my survival rate is pretty dire, but I do have a healthy win rate using this so far at least. Its a very situational and opportunistic tank capable of dealing decent damage then gtfoing, but its fragility is what makes this balanced.

molan1976 #52 Posted 22 October 2012 - 11:54 AM

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View Posttacticalpr0lap5e, on 21 October 2012 - 01:30 AM, said:

I think previous posts have covered the part about the tank itself having no armor and every other shot you take results in a dead crew member or fire so no need to go there .
...Its a very situational and opportunistic tank capable of dealing decent damage then gtfoing, but its fragility is what makes this balanced.

Yes, like all top frogs (AMX1390, BatChat, AMX50B, AMB50f155).

privo_59 #53 Posted 22 October 2012 - 05:38 PM

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View Postrodier, on 18 September 2012 - 05:11 AM, said:

My first impressions was,  amx 13 90  with same gun ont ier 8 = useless..

but now I see its still op. All statistics  is really high on that tank, it can easily kill any other tier 8 tank in 1 vs 1..  there is no other tank than can survive this.

I know on range distances its bad.. but still,  I think it should be rebalanced.  All of them.  ELC is op even more.  more penetration, less damage. Its can't be possible to kill 1 tank on 1 magazine.
iv'e got the solution.. learn to play

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eliocoric #54 Posted 22 October 2012 - 10:47 PM

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How can you say that amx 13 90 is op ?????.... it is fast, it has 6 rounds in a drum, it can deal a lot damage if every shot penetrates BUT this tank is 90% in tier 10 battles, it requires skill to play it good, it has no armor ( almost every shot kills 1 crew member or damages engine ), it has 40 sec reload time, it has long aiming time.... what else do you want??? THIS TANK IS BALANCED AND IT IS NOT OVERPOWERED!

delaBoujardiere #55 Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:03 AM

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As you have noticed, there arent as many 13-90 drivers as it used to be before it went up a tier. I guess most people find it completly impossible to handle it against tier 9 and 10. What I still see, is that it usually gets destroyed first in almost every battle as many drivers still use it in that gung-ho style. Probably in frustration; I dont know.

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Kyphe #56 Posted 23 October 2012 - 07:12 AM

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the guy thinks its OP as it is the last tank on the light-med line that has not been nerfed into the ground.

it is a tricky tank to play but a lot of fun if you get a game right.

it is great if you follow a type or a t54 and get free shots at the rear of some heavy as they try and keep their front to that med.

but if you end up with one shell left in your drum and a tier 7 med on you, you are pretty much screwed unless you can get to backup quickly.

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One thing I forgot to mention, this tank suffers more from having a bad team than anything other tank I have ever played. This however is how I discovered a really fun aspect of its play style.
Now everyone knows the AMX line is pretty decent at killing arty when you have a break in the enemy line, but what about when your entire teams heavies die in the first few minutes and the rest follow shortly after ? You then find yourself being capped as the enemy cant be bothered to find you, and you know it would be suicide and pointless to try to reset as you would die before you got the first shot off.
I recently decided that when the game goes that badly I should at least try to make at least some of the enemy team suffer (I really don't like roflstomps whether its my team or the enemies doing the stomping).
Sooo...yeah I go kill their arty now no matter what the outcome is going to be. It won't save you from a loss, but it sure as hell is a great way to make you laugh especially when the following words, " F*ck you! You French piece of sh*t!" can be heard from formerly complacent, now dead arty drivers who thought they had an easy win on their hands  :Smile_trollface-3: .

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All tanks are OP !!!!! in the right hands !

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View Postoctak, on 23 October 2012 - 09:09 AM, said:

All tanks are OP !!!!! in the right hands !
I totally agree with you that even the worst tank in WOT can be victorious in the hands of a good tanker. But most players are average and so the AMX 13 90 suffers from being a tier 8 tank. I love to play the assassin role with the AMX 13 90 but that is more difficult now because the MM puts you in battles with lots of tier X. It seems that its role has somewhat changed to being a powerscout. By the way that role can be fun too.  :Smile-playing:

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View Postoctak, on 23 October 2012 - 09:09 AM, said:

All tanks are OP !!!!! in the right hands !

All the tanks I drive is UP, all the tanks I don't have is OP  :Smile_trollface-3:




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