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Highway_Star #21 Posted 06 December 2010 - 11:04 PM

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Unless you have the 100mm gun, you're missing out. I still have my 34/85 and sold my T-43.

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View PostDemonicSpoon, on 06 December 2010 - 10:25 PM, said:

"Flanking" and "circlestrafing" are different. It's not meant to fight at point blank.

I second this,

since the new patch, circlestrafing is a horrible idea (unless you do it on tracked TD's..but thats more perma-tracking then circlestrafing)

flanking however is a great option on many medium tanks, even when fighting against T8-T9 heavies. a medium tanks higher ROF helps out here, because you can combine this tactic with perma tracking against TD's or targets on vunerable positions (like enemies climbing hills..perma tracking him while you're under his gun is a very effective trick to defeat stronger tanks, keeping targets perma tracked in the open often results in quick death by arty for the unfortunate victem)

flanking means getting a shot on the enemy tanks uncoverd side or back while using cover you'reself. the strategy is simple..you keep hitting his side/tracks..the moment he turns for you, you duck into cover. wait till ally engages the target..then pop out and start hitting his side again. If a ally uses the same tactic..the enemy will be picked appart without being able to do much (constant track hits will prevent effective escapes/counterattacks). you'll have to be actively hunting the other tanks side for flanking to work (while doing this you'll be taking risks), it isn't sniping.

sniping is hitting you're target from a long distance, the angle doesn't matter. using peekaboo tactics while sniping is possible.

T-34-85 isn't the fastest sniper/flanker, but having both options at its disposal it certainly isn't a bad tank.

michaelius #23 Posted 07 December 2010 - 12:16 PM

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View PostDunewarrior, on 24 November 2010 - 11:35 PM, said:

QFT

Both the 100mm and the 85mm work in this case, I prefer the 100mm cus I rage every time I bounce. With the 100mm I bounce very few times.
Average engagement distance for me is 300-400m away. My strategy is to pop up somewhere far away, find a few targets, get a few shots off, then move somewhere else.

This.
T34/85 is great damage dealer with firepower comparable to tier 7 tanks.
What it can't do is taking return fire.

I suspect a lot of hate it gets is from crappy guns it starts with and from people who are too used to T-34 gameplay style of being biggest shark in the pond of low tier tanks.

DemonicSpoon #24 Posted 09 December 2010 - 12:57 AM

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I have to say the buff coming in the next patch is looking really, -really- sexy. Should make this thing about as agile as the T-34 while retaining its fantastic gun.

TexasTC #25 Posted 09 December 2010 - 02:23 AM

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Just got this tank last night. I run mostly german tanks but grinded to the T34-85 when I had the T34. I had several bounces last night off my front armor againts a KT and a 3002DB. I'm not used to bouncing stuff of myself. So I was impressed with it a bit on my first night in it. Better than expected, I kill a lot of them with my jagdpanther

DemonicSpoon #26 Posted 09 December 2010 - 10:27 PM

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the T-34's armor is well-sloped and reasonable on all sides. The slope is enough to cause some pretty hilarious bounces sometimes, but don't count on it.

Bulcsu #27 Posted 10 December 2010 - 01:47 PM

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I like the T-34-85 way better than the T-34 because it has guns that can reliably damage tier 7 and tier 8 heavies.

I use the 122mm howitzer to flank heavies, corner fight, and even snipe a little.  The 100mm D10T is a good all-around gun that handles like a weaker 107mm ZiS-6.

It's pretty much the same playstyle for me as in a KV but with greater mobility.  The T-34-85 is very different from the T-34, which is more like a heavily-armed A-20 or a baby T-44.

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The long 85BM gun makes it a decent sniper, otherwise it's as useless as all other mediums at the moment.

If someone held a gun to my head and forced me to play a medium, I'd easily pick the 85BM over a short 88 or 76mm in tier6.

Nephilim #29 Posted 12 December 2010 - 01:29 PM

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i have to say my experience in this tank is not good, it gets one shotted by pretty much anything and is painfully slow. Trying to stay back and snipe with the 100mm is pretty meh as it does miss alot. Ive only just bought it again as I rage sold it before and already wish again that i hadnt bothered to give it a go :mellow:

horacio #30 Posted 13 December 2010 - 05:22 PM

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The T34-85 is currently my favorite tank. I think it has a more than correct balance of maneuverability, firepower and armor. And it also looks really nice  :Smile_great:

Don't stay alone, don't stop in the open, go from cover to cover, try to keep some distance between you and the ennemy, drive around them while they're busy, shoot and hide to reload.

You'll have to test both guns, the 100mm is better against higher tier tanks, the 85mm better when you fight weaker tanks.

I actually don't know what the T43 could bring me that's worth facing tougher tanks  <_<

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heheh...just came back from whole afternoon of having fun with T-34 and 34-85[ just recently got it and maxed out upgrades with 100mm d10t] crew at 80% now and i gotta say its fun and interesting change from my is4...
however the on the move accuracy is terrible its supposed to be a dogfighter but the gun forces me to stop-to shoot...
also aiming-in time is pretty bad too,but i guess its all to not make it too OP so i understand...if i have some extra cash ill definetely buy it rammer and laying drive...
for the strategy if i see a wolfpack i usually join it if not just camp and shoot and if i see lonely tank i circle it to death [hasnt happened to me yet :( ]
one game i even rushed enemy base on malinovka i ran down the hill and they kept shooting me and bouncing off my turret while i was tracked...i endedup with 10 hp left and we won lol...also Tigers and even IS3s been bouncing me sometimes..but that might be because they fired at bad angle or on top of turret...

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View Posthoracio, on 13 December 2010 - 05:22 PM, said:

The T34-85 is currently my favorite tank. I think it has a more than correct balance of maneuverability, firepower and armor. And it also looks really nice  :Smile_great:

Don't stay alone, don't stop in the open, go from cover to cover, try to keep some distance between you and the ennemy, drive around them while they're busy, shoot and hide to reload.

You'll have to test both guns, the 100mm is better against higher tier tanks, the 85mm better when you fight weaker tanks.

I actually don't know what the T43 could bring me that's worth facing tougher tanks  <_<

the t44 comes after it?

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100mm or long 85mm, which one would you suggest, as I am 1500XP away from a gun upgrade. I think the 100mm should be better, as it allows you to hurt heavies, on the other hand 85mm is more accurate and fires faster.

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I think this tank is great so far, recently unlocked the last 85mm. Along with Rammer, Ventilation and a camo net because it makes THAT much money. 39/68 battles were wins, two draws. The 85mm has great accuracy and ROF. Even in high tier battles it has tons of uses. It relocates fast so I've taken out TDs and arties simply by looking at my minimap and figuring out a safe route to certain spots. Or circling around buildings/hills just to fire a few shells into the back of a heavy tank. If they turn their turret towards you, press T and get the hell out. Usually gives your team enough of a clue to go in and shoot it from their side. With HE shells you pretty much damage everything you could want, too. Even if you find a T29 with only the turret visible, just fire some HE shells into it.

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View Postseahawk, on 31 December 2010 - 04:12 PM, said:

100mm or long 85mm, which one would you suggest, as I am 1500XP away from a gun upgrade. I think the 100mm should be better, as it allows you to hurt heavies, on the other hand 85mm is more accurate and fires faster.

if you've got a good crew the 100mm would be my choice, Grinding up from 50% I'd use the 85 as the 100 misses with the low crew more than you'd want.

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I am using the 100mm and i really like. This gun can deliver some nice damage.

I will continue to use it on the T-43. But that will be a hard grind ;)

Legault #37 Posted 01 January 2011 - 10:46 PM

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I love how this tank is so useful even when it's at the bottom of the list.


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My 3001(H) could never be this useful in a fight. Solo'd the hummel and JagdPz, did about 25% of the VK45 and 20% on the Tiger II, shot both of them in the back pretty much while trying to make them aim for me so my team could shoot them as well. Used the 100mm in this shot. No clue whether I like the 85 or 100 more, they're both good. The 100mm is great for city maps though and it does great when you're hiding between shots since the reload doesn't affect you as much.

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however the on the move accuracy is terrible its supposed to be a dogfighter

The concept of "dogfighting" is dumb. There are no tanks in the game who actually work well by zooming around at full speed circling around enemy tanks. Even the T-44 and T-54 do not do this too often as it exposes you, cripples your accuracy, and just gets you tracked and killed.

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100mm or long 85mm, which one would you suggest, as I am 1500XP away from a gun upgrade. I think the 100mm should be better, as it allows you to hurt heavies, on the other hand 85mm is more accurate and fires faster.

Both are good. I personally use the 85mm. The low penetration isn't a huge issue in most cases if you know where to aim and flank, and the accuracy is nice as I like to stay at range.

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If you care a lot about accuracy; 85. Other than that, whichever. They're both good. Just flip a coin and then grind the other one with whichever you got, then decide which you prefer afterwards. Neither of them disappoint me.


Almost 700 exp (689) average per match for me with my 34-85, scoring a good 3rd spot on my list. Only my Tiger (710) and King Tiger (754) beat it.


Just won a match with one hilarious bounce. Was capping their flag with two others, I was the first one to cap (68% when it ended) and a Tiger II shots me right before it got 100%. Bounced off of my 45 armor.  :P Chances are we would've lost if we didn't get it then, with a Tiger II and ISU shooting a three mediums.

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View Postlyone, on 31 December 2010 - 08:31 AM, said:

the t44 comes after it?

Except that of course (and now T54)  :P




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