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Frits97 #1 Posted 15 October 2012 - 07:40 AM

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the valentine tank is a tier IV light tank.... What I'm afraid of is that MM is going to see it as a scout tank.... though it's pretty slow....
So will there be an exeption of some sort for the val or is MM going to make it suffer??

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Zoraktar #2 Posted 15 October 2012 - 07:58 AM

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Clicky here for shiny MM picture
As MM chart is so huge wont post it as "image"

Ya can see yourself how it's treated by MM.
HF/GL.

Tigger3 #3 Posted 15 October 2012 - 07:54 PM

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View PostFrits97, on 15 October 2012 - 07:40 AM, said:

the valentine tank is a tier IV light tank.... What I'm afraid of is that MM is going to see it as a scout tank.... though it's pretty slow....
So will there be an exeption of some sort for the val or is MM going to make it suffer??

/Frits97

Played in a game as the only tier IV the next lowest was a tier VI the rest were tier VII and tier VIII. looks like it has scout MM at the moment.

Listy #4 Posted 15 October 2012 - 08:00 PM

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I mus admit I'm ab it worried about the entire lower end of hte British tree's match making. It seems somewhat harsh.

Morty_Jhones #5 Posted 16 October 2012 - 11:30 AM

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Well wargaming can kiss goodby to being able to Deniy any clame on non rusky bias cuss the Stats of the tanks dont lie.

This tank LOSES 30mm of armour from the sides just becuse it is being used by it's home nation. ok from the MK 4 up the side armour WAS reduced but down to 50mm not 30mm (and it is not a typo cuss it plays as if the side armour is that thin) its the same with the turret armour as well droping 5mm on the side when used by the brits

The tracks gains in performance an extra 10 degries rotation and .25 load limit when in rusky hands as does the engine gemerates an extra 10 Hp and has less burn chance dispite being the same engine.
the radio and gun are rusky so no comparisons are posable

granted that the gun is lighter so the incresed turet rotation (up to 50) is posable but the the incresed veaw 350m with the basic turret with the british being 40/330 and 42/340 respectivly, is inexscusable

added to that the tank is given the MM of a scout and grinding this line is gona be a Knightmare.

Edited by Morty_Jhones, 16 October 2012 - 11:30 AM.


Von_Luger #6 Posted 16 October 2012 - 03:27 PM

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The LL Valentine is a premium tier 4 light tank with a tier 2 russian gun. Do you have any Idea what this this tank is like? Have you played it? I did and I was not happy with it. Yes it gets into tier 4 battles only, but the tier2 gun is extremely inaccurate and hardly penetrates anything on medium and long ranges(unlike the tier 2 gun of the Pz.Kpfw S-35 739(f)). The brittish tank gets a 75mm gun which provides atleast some protection and ability to defend itsself with. You can still compare the 2 vehicles on the test server (if you didn't spend all of your gold that is). It should have a normal Tier4 medium MM.

Tigger3 #7 Posted 16 October 2012 - 03:50 PM

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View PostVon_Luger, on 16 October 2012 - 03:27 PM, said:

The LL Valentine is a premium tier 4 light tank with a tier 2 russian gun. Do you have any Idea what this this tank is like? Have you played it? I did and I was not happy with it. Yes it gets into tier 4 battles only, but the tier2 gun is extremely inaccurate and hardly penetrates anything on medium and long ranges(unlike the tier 2 gun of the Pz.Kpfw S-35 739(f)). The brittish tank gets a 75mm gun which provides atleast some protection and ability to defend itsself with. You can still compare the 2 vehicles on the test server (if you didn't spend all of your gold that is). It should have a normal Tier4 medium MM.

Yet as I said I was the only tier IV in a match, there was one tier VI all the rest were tiers VII and VIII so not normal tier IV medium MM, it has been classed as a light and at the moment on the test I am getting tier IV scout MM. It has not got the speed or armour to survive long and the gun choice does not make up for it.

Ok edit to add

Just had another game in the Vally same MM 1 x Vally on each side, top tank my team an AMX 50-100, their top tank KV5 hardly tier IV medium MM.




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