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EraserFS #21 Posted 21 October 2012 - 01:12 PM

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View PostFum, on 21 October 2012 - 12:09 PM, said:

Just because you can do it doesn't mean it is what everybody experiences. Try shooting with your E75 20 times per battle, doing less than 5 penetrations and getting destroyed every time and tell me how much credits you earn. Conserving ammo is not about avoiding to shoot. It's about shooting only when you know there is a good chance you will damage your enemy. Avoiding damage is the same way. You can still get destroyed, but you do your best to avoid open spots and doing rambo suicide runs.
Sounds like: play reasonable... (and you will not lose money without premium in Tier8+)

Fum #22 Posted 21 October 2012 - 01:16 PM

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You say that like it's normal for people to play reasonably in this game  :Smile-hiding:

Radu6 #23 Posted 21 October 2012 - 01:45 PM

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Wow, people should refrain from giving the stereotyped answers here. "You lose money because it's a tier 8" no, if you do well in a tier 8 you will do well.
The reason you lose money in a su-101, look at the shell cost....No...it's not a typo.
The shell actually costs as much as an E-100 one. And you spit them like sunflower seeds.

void_orig #24 Posted 22 October 2012 - 06:32 AM

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ok i was speeking to suport about the su-101 and now i need your help.
plz go to the developers link and help me fix the su-101 i am going for the amo fix and a bit more armor or gun angle\depretion plz help me fix it.

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void_orig #25 Posted 22 October 2012 - 06:43 AM

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dame cant post but going to ask for a solution or try do a post or a link here

MadZebra #26 Posted 22 October 2012 - 02:42 PM

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Just finished grinding the next tier with SU-101. My global winrate was 58% after 10k games. With this garbage I have solo winrate about 30%, luckily I was doing the grind in a platoon that carried me. My frustration about this crap was so intense that even after selling it, I can't play WoT for now. Worst tank in GAME, and I played a lot.

You have to show your whole body to shoot for pathetic 320dmg, you lit up like a torch and get shot for more than half your HP. Sure I got nice games where I just exploited my team and did some damage from a far, but holy cow, what a junk. Do not touch this tank!

Supakadai #27 Posted 23 October 2012 - 04:48 PM

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Now that I've grinded my way through this craptank, I don't mind it staying just as it is. Didn't have to think twice to sell it or not... :Smile-tongue:

gomolj #28 Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:50 PM

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I'm trying to unlock the "top gun" on it. And what a "top gun" it is.. Worse than any other tier 8 TD. Anyway, I'm using the 122 mm D-25.. It is utter shit. Don't know what is worse.. Waiting for the horrific aim time to shrink the circle, looking at the size of the fully aimed circle due to shit accuracy, or seeing the 175 mm gun bounce off when you manage to hit anything once in a while thanks to that aim time and accuracy. This tank with it's current set-up is so bad it is basically combat ineffective.

This whole line is a stupid idea... "Lets make flanking tank destroyers!" That there is a contradiction in terms. Great job, WG! I hope the Obj 263 is worth this pain you have given us with the SU-101.

Midblue #29 Posted 28 October 2012 - 10:33 AM

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I think we all agree that this tank isnt Tank Destroyer. It is a hybrid of a scout tank but not that fast and a tank destroyer  without the fear factor (low pen-damage).

With simple words it sucks big time. Needs to be rebalanced. (bigger armor or bigger pen or both)

Edited by Midblue, 28 October 2012 - 10:34 AM.


azenjood #30 Posted 28 October 2012 - 01:42 PM

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The reason why you lose money is because the ammo on this thing is horribly expensive. Lets compare it to the isu-152. Here are the ammo costs to deal 3000 damage:

SU-101: 3000 total dmg / 320 average dmg = 9.375 shots needed. 9.375 shots x 1230 credits/shell = 11531 credits
ISU-152: 3000 total dmg / 750 average dmg = 4 shots needed. 4 shots x 1650 credits/shell = 6600 credits

This doesn't take into account that the su-101's gun has terrible penetration. So in reality the cost will be even higher.

box9 #31 Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:00 PM

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And so, here in this way WG take care of the balance of all the tanks in the game. In other words (they do not care for the balance), Su101 unfortunately not the only example, but it is probably the worst.
No need to waste any more comments about this, because in this game barely 30% of the tank is properly balanced.

Midblue #32 Posted 29 October 2012 - 01:31 PM

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Did we mention that this tank has no cannon depression at all? You have to be in negative pitch to hit anything.

void_orig #33 Posted 29 October 2012 - 01:42 PM

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View PostMidblue, on 29 October 2012 - 01:31 PM, said:

Did we mention that this tank has no cannon depression at all? You have to be in negative pitch to hit anything.


YES

Radu6 #34 Posted 29 October 2012 - 03:05 PM

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Must start a thread with pics of su-101 in usually td camping spots where you look at the sky.

Cobra6 #35 Posted 29 October 2012 - 07:46 PM

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Judging by the .jpg artifacts on the red numbers this image has been tampered with.

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Midblue #36 Posted 30 October 2012 - 08:00 AM

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View PostRadu6, on 29 October 2012 - 03:05 PM, said:

Must start a thread with pics of su-101 in usually td camping spots where you look at the sky.

WG is soooooo in front of everything, this tank will be moved to A/A line when airplanes will be apllied.
Especially at airport map i have fun trying to hit airplanes because to hit a tank i have to ram it.

Bastor #37 Posted 30 October 2012 - 08:11 AM

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With premium account I usually make ~20k a game. Sometimes if I do really badly I go down to 2-3k or minus 2-3k


Though this tank is a BEAST tbh. I've had more than my fair share of 6-7 kills per game and 70-80k profit. The ammo is indeed quite expensive but the great accuracy and aiming time of the top gun more than make up for that. You really shouldn't miss too much and should have no issues penetrating weakspots.

I usually play it in a wolf pack as medium support and it WRECKS other tier 8 meds and can dish out a lot of damage to tier 9s and even 10s if left unattended. Basically this seems to be the T-62A line of TDs - we can wreck your ass if you ignore our small alpha and high RoF

Edited by Bastor, 30 October 2012 - 08:12 AM.


Krisna #38 Posted 30 October 2012 - 08:20 AM

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If you think, this tank is crap, than really don't buy Su-122 54. Because Su-122 54 is much worser! And stock Su-122 54 is almost same as SU-101, only with less armor and more HP.

Midblue #39 Posted 30 October 2012 - 02:27 PM

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View PostKrisna, on 30 October 2012 - 08:20 AM, said:

If you think, this tank is crap, than really don't buy Su-122 54. Because Su-122 54 is much worser! And stock Su-122 54 is almost same as SU-101, only with less armor and more HP.

Su-122 54 can be decent with tier X cannon though