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Snib #1 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:08 PM

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Did you ever wonder about average net income for the various tanks in game, i.e. how much is left in the bank after paying for repairs, ammunition and consumables? Well, then you've come to the right place!

Data provided by Phalynx, author of the WoT Performance Analyzer, based on data submitted from 209k random public battles on the 0.8.0 live servers. Many thanks to him - please use his automatic uploader to gather even more data.

Bonuses (premium account, events) have been removed!


TANK                     NET INCOME
Type 59                      26,573
8.8 cm Pak 43 JagdTiger      26,131
KV-5                         26,020
T34                          25,189
T26E4 Super Pershing         23,169
IS-6                         23,167
M6A2E1                       22,793
Löwe                         22,620
PzKpfw V-IV                  18,839
KV-220 Beta-Test             17,171
Type 62                      14,647
T-25                         13,375
Churchill                    12,589
PzKpfw B2 740 (f)            12,089
T14                          12,087
Dicker Max                   11,949
Matilda                      11,778
Ram-II                       11,491
105 leFH18B2                 11,447
M4A2E4                       11,207
BDR G1B                      10,419
Matilda Black Prince         10,167
T1 Heavy                     10,115
M10 Wolverine                 9,953
KV-1                          9,783
FCM36 Pak40                   9,343
Valentine                     9,331
T-34                          8,961
T49                           8,933
PzKpfw III/IV                 8,838
SU-8                          8,787
StuG III                      8,690
T-150                         8,679
M6                            8,597
M7                            8,590
PzKpfw S35 739 (f)            8,247
SU-85                         8,185
AMX 13 F3 AM                  8,130
PzKpfw IV                     7,986
Hetzer                        7,966
S-35 CA                       7,768
ELC AMX                       7,610
M4 Sherman                    7,548
M36                           7,487
T-34-85                       7,469
T-127                         7,342
T40                           7,117
SU-100M1                      7,096
T-15                          7,063
SU-5                          6,767
JagdPz IV                     6,687
M22                           6,671
Hummel                        6,622
ARL 44                        6,586
T-43                          6,565
VK 3001 (P)                   6,556
M8A1                          6,520
M41                           6,513
ARL V39                       6,509
VK 3601 (H)                   6,464
M4A3E2                        6,420
M18 Hellcat                   6,384
SU-85B                        6,326
M7 Priest                     6,276
KV-2                          6,252
AMX M4(1945)                  6,204
A-20                          6,183
PzKpfw II Ausf. J             6,176
SU-26                         6,162
PzKpfw 38 nA                  6,138
M5 Stuart                     6,103
M3 Lee                        6,065
PzKpfw VI Tiger (P)           6,059
T-28                          6,017
Wespe                         5,987
PzKpfw 38 (t)                 5,912
Somua SAu-40                  5,792
PzKpfw III Ausf. A            5,726
VK 3001 (H)                   5,688
AMX 105AM                     5,669
KV-1S                         5,620
M2 Medium Tank                5,606
PzKpfw III                    5,567
M3 Stuart                     5,503
T-50                          5,439
M37                           5,289
T82                           5,281
SU-76                         5,178
Grille                        5,149
B1                            5,142
VK 3002 (DB)                  5,111
PzKpfw II Luchs               5,102
AMX AC Mle. 1946              5,082
Lorraine39 L AM               5,066
MS-1                          5,054
Sturmpanzer II                4,991
AMX 12t                       4,990
AMX 40                        4,967
PzKpfw 35 (t)                 4,943
Leichttraktor                 4,883
BT-7                          4,876
M4A3E8 Sherman                4,836
VK 1602 Leopard               4,797
Renault UE 57                 4,791
PzKpfw VI Tiger               4,784
D2                            4,770
SU-100                        4,730
T-46                          4,715
T18                           4,705
AT-1                          4,690
T2 Light Tank                 4,639
M3 Stuart                     4,598
Sturmpanzer I Bison           4,562
Panzerjäger I                 4,535
RenaultFT AC                  4,505
MkVII Tetrarch                4,470
SU-18                         4,462
IS                            4,435
PzKpfw 38H735 (f)             4,426
T57                           4,398
KV-13                         4,378
BT-2                          4,327
Marder II                     4,314
T-26                          4,237
AMX 38                        4,202
T20                           4,196
AMX 13 75                     4,104
T25 AT                        3,999
T2 Medium Tank                3,986
KV-3                          3,925
S-51                          3,884
RenaultFT                     3,881
PzKpfw II                     3,862
PzKpfw V Panther              3,839
Jagdpanther                   3,826
Hotchkiss H35                 3,815
D1                            3,779
T1 Cunningham                 3,760
SU-14                         3,752
M2 Light Tank                 3,729
AMX 13 90                     3,689
SU-152                        3,509
T25/2                         3,497
RenaultBS                     3,440
M26 Pershing                  3,345
GW Panther                    2,914
M12                           2,398
T29                           2,193
Lorraine155 50                2,058
T-44                          1,825
Jagdpanther II                1,605
T95                           1,577
Ferdinand                     1,502
AMX AC Mle. 1948              1,254
ISU-152                       1,136
Lorraine155 51                  934
IS-3                            890
Panther II                      859
T28                             472
VK 2801                         442
T32                             362
T28 Prototype                   264
VK 4502 (P) Ausf. A             151
KV-4                           -225
M40/M43                        -238
T-50-2                         -329
GW Tiger                       -381
PzKpfw VIB Tiger II            -526
M24 Chaffee                    -597
E-75                           -734
AMX 50 Foch                  -1,691
Object 704                   -1,750
Jagdtiger                    -1,868
IS-8                         -2,034
Object 212                   -2,084
Object 263                   -2,372
AMX 50 100                   -2,692
SU-101                       -2,710
AMX 50 120                   -2,861
Lorraine 40 t                -2,862
ST-I                         -2,940
T92                          -3,077
M103                         -3,105
T30                          -3,260
VK 4502 (P) Ausf. B          -3,368
E-50                         -3,477
T-54                         -3,913
M46 Patton                   -3,981
T110E3                       -4,101
SU-122-54                    -4,667
Object 268                   -5,099
IS-7                         -5,397
AMX-50 Foch (155)            -5,445
JagdPz E-100                 -5,859
T110E4                       -6,146
E-100                        -6,343
T110E5                       -6,409
GW Typ E                     -6,606
IS-4                         -6,954
AMX 50B                      -7,205
Bat Chatillon 25 t           -7,208
Object 261                   -7,376
Bat Chatillon 155            -8,239
T-62A                        -8,472
Maus                         -8,527
E-50 Ausf. M                 -9,479
M48A1                        -9,544



Looks like the best non-premium earner is the BDR G1B. :)

PS: You can now find up to date stats on Phalynx' site here: http://www.vbaddict....ldname=creditsn

thebigfueltank #2 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:12 PM

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Thanks for the good work and the info :-)

Tvich #3 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:13 PM

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Good work.

Surprising to see a tier 6 M4A2E4 as the best non-premium moneymaker.

Always though that tier 5 was the way to go.



Edit: Thanks, i'm an idiot, but it was kinda late :)

Edited by Tvich, 25 October 2012 - 07:59 AM.


dUG1 #4 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:18 PM

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PzKpfw IV   8025

And we were unofficially told PzIV made too much credits so it had to be nerfed to keep it in line with other tier 5 tanks  :facepalmic:

Soref #5 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:18 PM

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View PostTvich, on 24 October 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

Good work.

Surprising to see a tier 6 M4A2E4 as the best non-premium moneymaker.

Always though that tier 5 was the way to go.

Actually it is a premium tank which was given to beta players like me with, uhm something around 5k battles?

The non-premium sherman ingame ends either with E2 or E8

hypernova #6 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:22 PM

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The M4A2E4 is a premium of the preorder package. edit: ninja'd

Snib, thank you for working out the stats. Your threads always are the most informative on the forum, keep it that way :) But it seems that there are a few gaps in the list. I suppose that the first gap is the value for the Lowe.

Edited by hypernova, 24 October 2012 - 10:23 PM.


wims80 #7 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:29 PM

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So the BDR isnt completely useless in every single way, its great at making creds

hypernova #8 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:33 PM

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Hmmm, now I see every entry. Weird. Nevermind.

NoHeal4u #9 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:36 PM

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Hm I'm using Jgpanther and M36 as my money earners,combined with S35CA(best earner ive played so far,play it with stock gun,other guns are just waste of perfect view range) but,as i was expecting WG realized stock gun was extremly good and nerfed it..

I think these averages are low for those vehicles ? How big is player base you tested? Oo



EDIT: Y and M4 sometimes backed up with T34 for a periodic boost.

Edited by NoHeal4u, 24 October 2012 - 10:39 PM.


tango_delta #10 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:36 PM

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nothing, edited.

Edited by tango_delta, 24 October 2012 - 10:37 PM.


Merquise #11 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:37 PM

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Lowe is the most expensive tank, but the income doesn't reflect that.
Also Dicker Max looks.. eehmm.. gimped..

Interesting.

Phalynx #12 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:40 PM

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It was clear Tier 10 tanks are not really good moneymakers, but I didn't expected to see them having such negative income.

theghostcat #13 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:41 PM

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This needs to be pinned.

Edited by theghostcat, 24 October 2012 - 11:17 PM.


lavaboy #14 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:44 PM

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Nice one Snib  :Smile_great: EDIT: and Phalynx

Do we have the number of games for each tank that those averages were based on?

Edited by lavaboy, 24 October 2012 - 10:45 PM.


remuneratio #15 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:52 PM

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that BDR thing is  surprising but rather nice. because in the old days when i looked for a moneymaker i decided NOT to get a kv1 like all the others.
instead i bought the underdog BDR G1B, a solid tank which wont let you down when its getting hard  :Smile_Default:
+1 for the info.

PS.: must get this tool and compare with avg stats, my kv4 makes constant plus as i recall... :Smile_great:

Nutzz #16 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:55 PM

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I have question - does it include premium account income bonus or, is it income for stock accounts? Or, maybe, which i think, it is, its combined income from both? Cause in that case this list will be of no use for premium players - im pretty sure that premium account users' average income is much higher on t VII or VIII than on t V (based on my own experience). Well, what am i saying, im sure that its based on combined income. With premium account even my t X tanks are good moneymakers (save for the t VIII arty ;P).

Nevetherless +1

Edited by Nutzz, 24 October 2012 - 10:58 PM.


Snib #17 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:56 PM

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View PostNutzz, on 24 October 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

I have question - does it include premium account income bonus or, is it income for stock accounts?
So I had even made the answer to that question bold and you still missed it. :) (all bonuses were removed)

Phalynx #18 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:58 PM

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View Postlavaboy, on 24 October 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

Nice one Snib  :Smile_great: EDIT: and Phalynx

Do we have the number of games for each tank that those averages were based on?
Sure, I will provide Snib the data including battles so he can post it.

Snib #19 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:59 PM

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View PostPhalynx, on 24 October 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

Sure, I will provide Snib the data including battles so he can post it.
Make it battles + players then. Will probably only post it in a spoiler though, I like the simple list as it is. :)

ZeZergling #20 Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:59 PM

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Good data; it agrees well with what I've collected from what I've recorded while playing on the NA server.


Conclusions:

Looks as though the Type 62 and Dicker Max both need a profitability increase.

E-75 probably needs a nerf; almost at break even point despite being tier 9.

AMX 50 100 is losing too much for a tier 8. Probably needs a profitability buff.

SU-100 isn't making enough for a tier 6.

PzKpfw B2 740 (f) appears to be earning way too much for a tier 4 premium.

Edited by ZeZergling, 24 October 2012 - 11:01 PM.