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cardgame #1 Posted 13 November 2010 - 03:32 AM

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All the tier 1 tanks have signal flags.

I think some tier 2 tanks start out with them as well, not sure.

Kazomir #2 Posted 13 November 2010 - 07:44 PM

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every tier 1 tank start with a signal flag "radio", but they can research a new, real radio wich extends their radio range up to 3 times :)

shashaveli #3 Posted 14 November 2010 - 11:52 AM

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What did you expect? Radios where rare in pre-war-early war period. Shouting just won't cut it.

Abusemtex #4 Posted 26 May 2011 - 01:15 PM

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During 1941 to 1942 signal flags were very common on T26, T46, T34 and KV1 simply because Stalin killed all officers who pointed out the tactical opportunities of radio based battle coordination. Well - he pretty likely killed all the other officers too.

Germany started with inferior tanks but superior tactics, very well trained personel and almost perfectly coordinated units. That could only be done by specialized crews (more crews per tank) and advanced equipment (all tanks had radio + operator).

bojan #5 Posted 27 May 2011 - 01:51 PM

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View PostAbusemtex76, on 26 May 2011 - 01:15 PM, said:

During 1941 to 1942 signal flags were very common on T26, T46, T34 and KV1 simply because Stalin killed all officers who pointed out the tactical opportunities of radio based battle coordination. Well - he pretty likely killed all the other officers too.

All KV's except last 12 produced in Leningrad had radio. All T-28 and T-35 had radio also. After early-mid 1943 all Soviet tanks got radios, even older ones which were retrofitted.
Flags were used on those however (and are still learned in most countries!) during marches and when maintaining radio silence was a priority.

theta0123 #6 Posted 27 May 2011 - 02:15 PM

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View PostAbusemtex76, on 26 May 2011 - 01:15 PM, said:

During 1941 to 1942 signal flags were very common on T26, T46, T34 and KV1 simply because Stalin killed all officers who pointed out the tactical opportunities of radio based battle coordination. Well - he pretty likely killed all the other officers too.

Germany started with inferior tanks but superior tactics, very well trained personel and almost perfectly coordinated units. That could only be done by specialized crews (more crews per tank) and advanced equipment (all tanks had radio + operator).
Not true about T26,T34 and KV. T26 recieved a radio already in 1935

bojan #7 Posted 29 May 2011 - 01:39 PM

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View Posttheta0123, on 27 May 2011 - 02:15 PM, said:

Not true about T26,T34 and KV. T26 recieved a radio already in 1935


Not all T-26 had radio. IIRC ~40% had it in 1941. BTs were similar.

T-34 was planned to have radio on all tanks produced after October 1941., but once production kicked in there was not enough radios. After spring 1943. all got radio.
KVs got radios as those were considered essential for heavy tanks.
All T-28, T-35, SU-85/100/122/152, ISU-122/122S/152, IS-1/2, KV-1/1S/2/8/8S/85, SU-76/76M (except first 60 or so produced, later retrofitted), T-34/85 had radio since beginning of production.

TekumzeWolf #8 Posted 07 June 2011 - 11:55 AM

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As mentioned nearly all Russian tanks were capable of having a radio. At the start of the war however it was mainly the command tank that had it installed.

Obviously this changed during the war as radio brought such obvious benefits in tank warfare that they could not ignore it.

Tuccy #9 Posted 08 June 2011 - 03:00 PM

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View PostAbusemtex76, on 26 May 2011 - 01:15 PM, said:

During 1941 to 1942 signal flags were very common on T26, T46, T34 and KV1 simply because Stalin killed all officers who pointed out the tactical opportunities of radio based battle coordination. Well - he pretty likely killed all the other officers too.

EDIT: Bojan said it more accurate ly already :)

While Stalin's purges had a devastating influence, this is more a problem of logistics.

As for the flags, there were usually slits in commander's cupolas that enabled them to stick the flags out while buttoned up. I may try searching for a page from Czechoslovakian post-war T-34 training manual with pictures of flag signals.

GhostDivison #10 Posted 08 June 2011 - 03:19 PM

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What kind of radios will the French have in this game?
Radio signal flags until the 50's?

Gigaton #11 Posted 08 June 2011 - 03:32 PM

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View PostGhostDivison, on 08 June 2011 - 03:19 PM, said:

What kind of radios will the French have in this game?
Radio signal flags until the 50's?

French certainly had radios in their tanks during WW2. Just not in every tank. Some tanks also had outdated voiceless radios, for morse transmissions.

PinkyDK #12 Posted 21 October 2011 - 02:47 PM

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The french tanks only need 1 white signal flag...

NiekSchmidt #13 Posted 26 October 2011 - 11:01 AM

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I thought the French used the smell of garlic to communicate? :lol:

AmazingChickens #14 Posted 26 October 2011 - 11:12 AM

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View PostPinkyDK, on 21 October 2011 - 02:47 PM, said:

The french tanks only need 1 white signal flag...
wow this is really starting to get annoying <_<

NargilFenris #15 Posted 26 October 2011 - 08:02 PM

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On a somewhat off note, signal flags are still used today on military ships. I wouldn't be surprised if tanks still carried them as well.

Abusemtex #16 Posted 27 October 2011 - 08:18 AM

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View PostNargilFenris, on 26 October 2011 - 08:02 PM, said:

On a somewhat off note, signal flags are still used today on military ships. I wouldn't be surprised if tanks still carried them as well.

Signal flags are still part of the standard equipment in every (german) tank. They are used when e.g. driving in columns.




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