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JoonHilt #1 Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:19 PM

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When i looked the Crusader stats i saw that it has MM against tiers 7-10. Isn't it too high cause it has only 44km/h max and 450hp. How well it perform in those matches. I want to know

Toddwjp #2 Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:11 PM

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That's not true, infact where did you even get those numbers from?? It's got a battle tier of 5-7 so I think that is tier 8 max that it sees

Zieten #3 Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:34 PM

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ive only played a few games, but i got fked over badly concerning MM with it

Darzok #4 Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:30 AM

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I seem to come across T6 tanks more or less every game and now and then T7 so i don`t think it will see T8+.

RoflSeal #5 Posted 01 November 2012 - 02:34 AM

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MM is the same as other T5 mediums

Thomas_The_Tank_Engine #6 Posted 01 November 2012 - 03:12 AM

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Played 30 games in mine and tier 7 tanks are the highest I've seen. Normal tier 5 matchmaking.

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JoonHilt #7 Posted 01 November 2012 - 07:02 AM

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View PostToddwjp, on 31 October 2012 - 11:11 PM, said:

That's not true, infact where did you even get those numbers from?? It's got a battle tier of 5-7 so I think that is tier 8 max that it sees


Watched from wiki but if it gets normal tier 5 MM then it wont be so bad to get Cromwell

Eeti #8 Posted 01 November 2012 - 09:10 AM

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Got this tank with free xp, don't quite like it. It seems to be very much like Panzer III/IV, except the Panzer does everything a bit better.

mura #9 Posted 01 November 2012 - 09:37 AM

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View PostEeti, on 01 November 2012 - 09:10 AM, said:

Got this tank with free xp, don't quite like it. It seems to be very much like Panzer III/IV, except the Panzer does everything a bit better.
except the gun depression and view range I guess, right?

Edited by mura, 01 November 2012 - 09:40 AM.


bldyannoyed #10 Posted 01 November 2012 - 10:03 AM

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This tank is fucking pointless.

It's not fast enough to be a scout, it has literally no armour and a shitty little pea shooter gun that needs 3 or 4 shots on target before the damage is worth doing. It will lose in a straight fight with most tier 4 tanks, except real fail boats like the m3 lee.

Its got gun depression which is handy but hull down still doesn't really work because of course everything can pen your turret. It's not like you can even get rounds off quickly and get turret down with your 2.3 sec aim (which is bas for a tank of this type at this tier) shit accuracy and piss poor damage.

Even in a tier 7 match I would rather be driving the Matilda.

quinch1199 #11 Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:45 AM

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This is still classed as a LIGHT tank...what match maker it has I don't know.

If it has the light tank MM then its going to be screwed 80% OF THE TIME!!

Only just got this last night and only played one match so too early to know for me.

Any info out there??

anonym_kL7qtn3e52MB #12 Posted 01 November 2012 - 12:26 PM

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Worst Tier 5 Light of the bunch.

No speed
No viewrange
No gun (although I had a nice round with the Howitzer yesterday. Hulldown (or even completely behind a hill you can hit tanks that can't hit you) Does abysmal damage though...
No armour

Thomas_The_Tank_Engine #13 Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:00 PM

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View Postquinch1199, on 01 November 2012 - 11:45 AM, said:

This is still classed as a LIGHT tank...what match maker it has I don't know.

If it has the light tank MM then its going to be screwed 80% OF THE TIME!!

Only just got this last night and only played one match so too early to know for me.

Any info out there??

Read the thread maybe?

I dunno why people are comparing it to the pz III/IV. With it's top gun it's like a faster more stealthy t-34.

It's not in the same catagory as the other tier 5 lights, it's treated the same as a tier 5 medium.

Edited by Thomas_The_Tank_Engine, 01 November 2012 - 01:03 PM.


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View PostThomas_The_Tank_Engine, on 01 November 2012 - 01:00 PM, said:

Read the thread maybe?

I dunno why people are comparing it to the pz III/IV. With it's top gun it's like a faster more stealthy t-34.

It's not in the same catagory as the other tier 5 lights, it's treated the same as a tier 5 medium.


Crusader 44 km/h
T-34 (USSR) 56 km/h

Darzok #15 Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:17 PM

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The only real bad thing about the tank is the fact you lose all most all speed when trying to turn and that ruins what would other wise be quite a good tank.

bldyannoyed #16 Posted 01 November 2012 - 01:17 PM

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Its actually far closer to the M4 than the Pz3/4.

Its got a better power to weight ratio but otherwise simlar top speed and traverse and the same decent gun depression for hull down funsies. Its top gun is also pretty similar to the 76mm M1A1 i.e. rubbish.

Sadly the M4 also has better armour, better view range and access to the trollwitzer which is, lets be honest, when mounted on the speedy(ish) M4 is one of the best and most fun tier 5 guns in the game. And incidentally will one-shot a Crusader pretty much every single time.

Edited by bldyannoyed, 01 November 2012 - 02:40 PM.


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View PostCostarring, on 01 November 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

Crusader 44 km/h
T-34 (USSR) 56 km/h

Crusader: goes over 40km/h all the bloody time
T-34: goes over 40km/h only when it has a good stretch of road.

Another reason why you can't compare tanks just by looking at paper stats: almost nothing is written down.

Thomas_The_Tank_Engine #18 Posted 01 November 2012 - 02:07 PM

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View PostCostarring, on 01 November 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

Crusader 44 km/h
T-34 (USSR) 56 km/h

Crusader - 21 hp/ton.
T-34 - 17 hp/ton.

My crusader with 80% crew feels considerably speedier than the t-34 with 100% crew, with the exception of going down hills, when the t-34 becomes faster for a few seconds.

Zieten #19 Posted 01 November 2012 - 03:54 PM

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i gotta correct myself, i guess i had just poor luck in the first matches concerning MM.
don't like the tank though. the guns are puny, speed is okayish, no armor. should be a tier lower imo.

Darkmancer #20 Posted 01 November 2012 - 05:27 PM

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I too wish people would stop comparing it to lights.  Its not a rubbish light, its a bad medium.

It needs improvements in alpha and ability to fire on the move.  Even then it be meh.




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