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Rutger_NL #1 Posted 03 November 2012 - 03:15 AM

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This tank does not belong in matches with tier 4 tanks. You just cannot damage some of them and this is not a proper scout tank since it has no manouvrebility. There is no reason for people to buy this tank for gold when the MM is just no fun at all.

If you are very lucky you get a match with tier 2 or 3 max and those games are MUCH more fun to play. And since the T2 LT has no armor it cannot be OP vs the low tiers like the mini maus was. Though currently even that tank could use a more friendly MM.

Piekielny_Ziom #2 Posted 04 November 2012 - 03:17 PM

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I fully agree. Even with premium shells this tank can't do much against tier 4 (maybe excluding British tanks). It also have poor radio range, so it can't work as dedicated scout. Pretty much everything is able to one shoot you in those games, so yeah it's not fun.

MartinQ #3 Posted 10 November 2012 - 12:56 AM

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I must agree too. This tank is totaly unplayable against tier 4. You can't simply penetrate them at all even from behind. So you must find equal partner to play against, but there is still problem with poor radio range. I think this is main problem of this tank. You cannot see what is happening elsewhere and where are equal enemies. So I would recommend to boost signal range. Also maneuverability is a little bit strange for such light and small tank. The speed is decreasing a lot when turning around. This could be improved a little too.

tapir #4 Posted 10 November 2012 - 08:05 PM

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This tank has single purpose. It is fast passive scout useful in champion and absolute TC, if there is some place in team left and total tier of 90 or 120 is yet not reached ( I mean It is possible to include only tank of tier 2 or less in the team ). Equipped with binocular telescope, coated optics and camouflage net it can reach some strategical bush very fast, due to superior speed. It should be driven by commander who can lead the battle unburdened by shooting the enemy even after predictable rapid death upon being detected.

Zimny_Lech #5 Posted 12 November 2012 - 02:54 PM

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new MM will put it against tier 5, with view range of 260 m, a torch instead of a radio, no armour, 150 hp, 15-30 mm pen,  it can not be a scout, you can only go jump into some water, somebody makes it unplayable, so that we use new prem LTs that are coming

http://forum.worldof...makingu-po-081/

Edited by Zimny_Lech, 12 November 2012 - 03:07 PM.


Taasch #6 Posted 14 November 2012 - 08:51 PM

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Had a few minutes ago a game with T4 tanks. From my 1200 Shells I fired round about 600 with hitrate by 70% (I moved very near to the tanks)

ZERO Damage (including the 105 Shells Gold)  :arta:

theghostcat #7 Posted 14 November 2012 - 09:05 PM

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View PostTaasch, on 14 November 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

Had a few minutes ago a game with T4 tanks. From my 1200 Shells I fired round about 600 with hitrate by 70% (I moved very near to the tanks)

ZERO Damage (including the 105 Shells Gold)  :arta:

Those are the games where you go for the postmortem scout award... :Smile_sceptic:

Bewc #8 Posted 23 November 2012 - 04:10 PM

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Fix it or give my gold back and take tank! And please from now on put a warning sign on premium tanks: Risk of buying, can be nerfed into oblivion!

VeryRisky #9 Posted 26 November 2012 - 03:38 PM

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I bought it recently and like it.  In a high tier match I don't bother firing, but if all is well coordinate wit the arty and tell them when you're going to make a run to the rear and spot their arty.  Shooting just distracts from staying alive and a live scout is the most useful sort.  If it need a buff it would be to the radio.

_Gebe_ #10 Posted 01 December 2012 - 01:59 PM

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fully agree with OP. should have mm restricted to tier 3.

VeryRisky #11 Posted 01 December 2012 - 08:31 PM

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I'm having real trouble with this tank.  in a Tier 2 battle but in Tier 4 it can be hard.  Try doing anything on Dragon Ridge without tracking yourself!  

If anyone feels they have mastered it I think it's worth a "Guide" thread as it's a pretty unique little fellow.

Personally, my win rate is appalling but I'm pretty determined to get better with it.

Gholgatha #12 Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:37 PM

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Just got this little sportscar.

Had only few matches so far.

Already happened that i was the only Tier II in a Tier IV match , not just on own team i mean THE ONLY Tier II.
Happened twice.
All my rage!!!!

is a funny tank, though.

Gholgatha #13 Posted 07 December 2012 - 10:38 PM

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seriously this needs to stop.

WG get your hands off the vodka and do your job!

these are matches 3 and 4 this day it happens.

http://s7.directuplo...yvwyqjg_jpg.htm

http://s1.directuplo...fwwd2eq_jpg.htm

T2 LT is NOT a f*cking arty ! Get your MM right WG!!!!!!!!!

edit:
...and nr 4

http://s14.directupl...jj3wj5j_jpg.htm

btw i only had 15 matches total on this tank so far. so it happens quite often.

Edited by Gholgatha, 07 December 2012 - 11:01 PM.


VeryRisky #14 Posted 08 December 2012 - 12:08 AM

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It could play Tier 4 matches with a decent radio.......

Gholgatha #15 Posted 08 December 2012 - 12:11 PM

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View PostVeryRisky, on 08 December 2012 - 12:08 AM, said:

It could play Tier 4 matches with a decent radio.......

You are right.
if the tank had a decent radio AND a decent viewrange AND a better maneuverability it could be used as scout, unfortunately is hasn't. so it can't.

Edited by Gholgatha, 08 December 2012 - 12:19 PM.


spichopat #16 Posted 08 December 2012 - 12:44 PM

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http://mwreplays.com...y/QN5MP63IQ9OF/
Talk again.

Gholgatha #17 Posted 08 December 2012 - 04:23 PM

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View Postspichopat, on 08 December 2012 - 12:44 PM, said:


old version?  doesn't play

let me guess: you beat the sh*t out of the enemy in a Tier IV match.

Whatever ... I'm not saying that the tank is useless, i think i perform quite good in this, but ONLY because in matches up to Tier IV you play mostly against newbies.
It's just the feeling that it is unfair that this tank is considered as a Tier III by the MM or something, while it really is not any better or OP then other Tier II that never see a Tier IV match.

spichopat #18 Posted 08 December 2012 - 04:54 PM

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View PostGholgatha, on 08 December 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:

old version?  doesn't play

let me guess: you beat the sh*t out of the enemy in a Tier IV match.

Whatever ... I'm not saying that the tank is useless, i think i perform quite good in this, but ONLY because in matches up to Tier IV you play mostly against newbies.
It's just the feeling that it is unfair that this tank is considered as a Tier III by the MM or something, while it really is not any better or OP then other Tier II that never see a Tier IV match.
It pays for it's speed. You can eat anything except, wait for it... M3 Lee (you can still penetrate but you have to be on side and look for specific spot, rear is stonger). Amx 40s have large weakspot in behind (12 armor) and b1 is the same.

Twistedjez #19 Posted 31 December 2012 - 06:20 PM

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View PostBewc, on 23 November 2012 - 04:10 PM, said:

Fix it or give my gold back and take tank! And please from now on put a warning sign on premium tanks: Risk of buying, can be nerfed into oblivion!

i agree totally with this. i used to love this tank, had something like 1600 battles in it, then they nerfed the gun. its totally useless now.
its like buying a car with a v8 engine, then the manufacturer changing it to a 1.6 flat four and thinking its fine. Software companies take the piss and it needs to stop.
i paid for a product and now i dont have it, id like a refund please.

Pros:
Great acceleration and top speed.



Cons:
Poor armor
Poor view range
Poor signal range
Very Harsh match-making, where most of the time you cant damage tanks.
Terrible Terrible 5 cartridge gun..  Guaranteed to get you killed.


http://forum.worldof...-refund-please/

Edited by Twistedjez, 31 December 2012 - 06:45 PM.


knoxySR #20 Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:26 PM

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Iv had close too 100 battles in this so far, im enjoying playing it but it imo its not that good. It says it has 47deg/sec but when its moving its nowhere close to that. Iv clutch breaking at 52% so far and its helped alot. Its gun is really weak,anything past 320m it dosnt even hit the enemy and iv found on many a time if you are not able to take an enemy out with 1 drum then you are in trouble, the auto canon on the PzII is much better then it. On the map province is murder because everyone just camps and the gun is not able to dmg anyone on the other side if you get the chance while the PzII's can.

Its radio with signal boost and bia comes in at 450 odd meters I think witch is still shit for some of the maps it has to play. In tier4 match the tank is actully a disadvantage to your team because it is taking the spot of another tank that could be used to better effect, in tier4 you could use it to sneak on enemy arty but even then i tryed to take out a wespe and it couldnt do it on 2 full drums and had to run before his team mates came to help. The armour is LOL at best, Im sure before its nerf it was pretty good tank, its serious fun to play but its just not that good. Why did they even nerf it I mean your not making massive amouts of credits with it, most people play it just for fun so there is really no point in the nerf imo. I think the best way to play this is to never stop moving at 72km is possible haha




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