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Poll: Best Tier 5 Scout (200 members have cast votes)

You have to complete 250 battles in order to participate this poll.

Which is the best scout? (Tier 5)

  1. ELC AMX (47 votes [23.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 23.50%

  2. T-50-2 (102 votes [51.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 51.00%

  3. M24 Chaffee (20 votes [10.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  4. VK 2801 (26 votes [13.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 13.00%

  5. Crusader (5 votes [2.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.50%

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mynameispuffs #1 Posted 10 November 2012 - 04:23 PM

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The ELC AMX seems to be an odd duck at first sight, it can't circle strafe, it can't scout, it seems to be a TD yet it doesn't work to play it like one.
There are, however, ways to succeed, and even make a very large difference for your team when you are driving this tank.
1. Know your place
Even before the match starts, think about where you want to go. This tank's advantage is speed, so don't waste it. Look to see where your team mates are going, and get there before they do. Then, wait and shoot 1-2 times at the first enemy tanks you see and GET OUT OF THERE!!!!! thus leading into #2
2. GET OUT OF THERE!!!!!
This tank is good at getting places fast. Thus, it is also good at getting out of places fast. It has a 10 second+ reload with the top gun, so don't sit still. Make sure that you get out of danger while you are reloading, or at least keep moving so enemies have a hard time hitting you. But like it says, shoot, and SCOOT!!!!!!
3. Don't be scared of enemy tanks
Most players in this game have at least a small amount of difficulty leading shots. Thus, it is best to travel at a 90 degree angle to the enemy.
If they are here= ____________()
and you are here_________________()
go this way <=====
There is a very good chance of them missing you. Wait for them to shoot, and there is your chance. Don't be shy, CHARGE STRAIGHT AT THEM!!! Once you are able to shoot them with some degree of accuracy, fire, and swerve past them. Then follow #2.
4. The bean method
Everyone says this tank can't circle strafe. They are right. It can bean strafe.
Imagine the shape of a bean:
Imagine the enemy tank is at the far left of the image. You want to follow the outline of the bean. Lets say you are going clockwise. You drive towards the enemy tank and reach the bottom of the bean. You shoot at the enemy tank, then make an arc around them. you then swerve and start to make a half-circle around them, turn towards them when you get to the bottom of the bean, and shoot them again.
This will not work in every case, so use the cover provided by the map to help you avoid the enemy's gun. Also, attempt to track them with your first shot so you have a chance for a side shot by ending the bean early.
DO NOT. I Repeat, DO NOT do this to a vehicle with extremely fast turret traverse. They will shoot you when you turn to fire at them. For that sort of vehicle (such as a type 59) get one shot at them, and then follow #2.
5. Let your team mates take the shots
After completing #2, let your team mates engage the enemy. Here is the time this tank shines. Use your speed and maneuverability to get around the enemies, preferably at a distance, and then charge them from the side. Keep nailing them, maybe even get behind them and shoot them in the rear, until they even begin to turn their turrets towards you. Then follow #2 again.
How to deal with enemy scouts:
1. Tap the brakes to let them zoom past you and shoot em in the rear.
2. As dumb as it may seem ...Ram them in the rear! I have killed many T-50s and some T-50-2's by ramming them. It stops them so your friends can shoot them and you get to put a nice fat 90 mm in them.
I hope this helps

sady3296 #2 Posted 10 November 2012 - 04:52 PM

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No offense but do you actually think that you are in a position to make a guide for a tank with those stats? I usually dont really care about all that stuff but c'mon...44% overall ??? 31% with the damn hellcat???
And with elc... 65 battles, 110 average damage, 7 tanks destroyed ( in total ) and you make a guide....

Keep 'em coming. :mellow:

TacPenguin #3 Posted 10 November 2012 - 04:54 PM

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Bean strafing  :Smile_trollface-3:

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TacPenguin #4 Posted 10 November 2012 - 05:03 PM

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Seriously the Elc is a cat that can be skinned many ways .

Just go with what works for your style.


my choice:-

study map before start.

go as far fwd as I can find nice comfy bush get the camo net and binocs on and spot for team DONT SHOOT.

if spotted leg it in a zig zag style using ridges and gullys for cover and try. To have a crossing angle on any likely shooters.

if all going ok wait till gaps appear then go fwd fast and rock and roll on weak tanks and arty.


that is what works for me .

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mynameispuffs #5 Posted 10 November 2012 - 05:30 PM

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View Postsady3296, on 10 November 2012 - 04:52 PM, said:

No offense but do you actually think that you are in a position to make a guide for a tank with those stats? I usually dont really care about all that stuff but c'mon...44% overall ??? 31% with the damn hellcat???
And with elc... 65 battles, 110 average damage, 7 tanks destroyed ( in total ) and you make a guide....

Keep 'em coming. :mellow:


If it helps i did a guide for the MS-1 if that's more in my 'statistics range':
http://forum.worldof...__fromsearch__1

sady3296 #6 Posted 10 November 2012 - 05:45 PM

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View Postmynameispuffs, on 10 November 2012 - 05:30 PM, said:

If it helps i did a guide for the MS-1 if that's more in my 'statistics range':
http://forum.worldof...__fromsearch__1

No thank you. Im not going to read a 1000 word essay about a tank from somebody who has 12 battles in it.

Edited by sady3296, 10 November 2012 - 05:52 PM.


mynameispuffs #7 Posted 11 November 2012 - 11:56 AM

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View Postsady3296, on 10 November 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

No thank you. Im not going to read a 1000 word essay about a tank from somebody who has 12 battles in it.

Anyway its not about statistics its about the depth and accuracy of the guide to start with

azakow #8 Posted 11 November 2012 - 12:26 PM

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A guide in the vehicle section of the forum?!
A guide where I can choose answers form a poll?!
A guide that confuses LT vehicles with scouting?!
A guide recommending ramming with a seven ton vehicle, the lightest vehicle in the whole game?!
...


Your guide is sure not worth the write and the read.
I suggest to read the following guide, if you want to become a better LT commander no matter on what vehicle.
http://forum.worldof...-with-maps-v80/

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Pansenmann #9 Posted 11 November 2012 - 12:58 PM

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nicely written - but, everything was said before :)

I did the "sudden stop" technique too with an enemy T-50 trying to hunt me down...

That makes fore some good laughs :)

PS: ramming with elc is usually a bad bad idea - unless you're dead anyways

Edited by Pansenmann, 11 November 2012 - 01:00 PM.


sady3296 #10 Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:05 PM

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View Postmynameispuffs, on 11 November 2012 - 11:56 AM, said:

Anyway its not about statistics its about the depth and accuracy of the guide to start with

And how can somebody who obviously struggles with the tank and with the game in general make an accurate guide ?

Pansenmann #11 Posted 11 November 2012 - 03:42 PM

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can we have this thread closed please to stop bashing the op?

I would nevertheless help to improve any existing ELC guides / tips&tricks
with my sparse knowledge (on my way to 500 battles with this little bugger)

I can of course give a list of things _not_ to do, like:

park in a bush and let your nose stick out of it
cross tracks at 90° degree
approach enemy tank upfront
stand in water
get caught between 2 or more enemys and so on

Edited by Pansenmann, 11 November 2012 - 04:44 PM.


TheKroo #12 Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:22 PM

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The OP has tried to contribute to the community.
If you think you can improve his work, please make a suggestion.
No need for pure negativity.

mynameispuffs #13 Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:52 PM

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View PostHunter1911, on 11 November 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:

The OP has tried to contribute to the community.
If you think you can improve his work, please make a suggestion.
No need for pure negativity.


Thank you. Could you stop people leaving comments someway?

TacPenguin #14 Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:36 PM

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Good try on the guide even if writing it only served to clarify your thoughts.

if you like to write more guides pick a tank you have 100s of battles in and write it as a

"this is how I play tank xxxx".   What do you all think.

you will find tanker like to share how they play.

good luck with your next one

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sayIMBAplz #15 Posted 16 November 2012 - 01:46 PM

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The great cons of the AMX as a scout are the relatively low view range and the fact that it takes ages to kill 2-3 arty pieces alone  :arta:

Edited by IonAtonescu, 16 November 2012 - 01:46 PM.


mynameispuffs #16 Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:29 PM

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View PostIonAtonescu, on 16 November 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

The great cons of the AMX as a scout are the relatively low view range and the fact that it takes ages to kill 2-3 arty pieces alone  :arta:

totally agree. If you have the top gun though you can one shot lower tiers but its still a struggle to kill anything with a gun which takes 12 ish seconds to reload

xCaptainObviousx #17 Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:29 PM

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Does having over 300 games, 60% win rate, 400 kills and 780 average xp in the ELC qualify me to write a guide?

I haven't played it as a scout so you'll have to find someone else for that playstyle.

Pansenmann #18 Posted 16 November 2012 - 08:04 PM

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It does qualify you - so could you please? :)

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View PostIonAtonescu, on 16 November 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

The great cons of the AMX as a scout are the relatively low view range and the fact that it takes ages to kill 2-3 arty pieces alone  :arta:

But there are great pros too. Speed, low profile, high alpha. And view range can be greatly boosted by skills, optics and binoculars.


If the enemy has only one SPG, it's dead. And very often you get into games with 1-2 <T5 SPGs. You can easily destroy those only a minute after the game starts with just 2 shots. :)

You can also hide in a bush near the frontline and keep your eye on damaged enemy tanks. And then, when you see an enemy tank with less then 200 HP you can go in, kill it and then easily escape before they even realise you are there.  :Smile-hiding:

In good hands the ELC and BatChat are the deadliest tanks in the entire French tech tree.

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View PostxCaptainObviousx, on 16 November 2012 - 07:29 PM, said:

Does having over 300 games, 60% win rate, 400 kills and 780 average xp in the ELC qualify me to write a guide?

I haven't played it as a scout so you'll have to find someone else for that playstyle.

Please do it. You will be at least 3x more qualified as the gent who started this thread. :Smile_blinky:
I my eyes you are able to scout, at least with optics or with binos in a bush-scout role. I almost always do this in the first 3rd of the game. And then I go hunting, hehe...





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