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Barkmann #41 Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:17 PM

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worst tier 6 tank in game:

- weak gun
- no armour
- mobility like med not light tank
- not enought HP. other tier 6 tanks have much more
- size like medium
- view range
- MM!

Look on onthers tier 6 tanks: VKs series, KV series or other US tanks. It should be normal tier 6 tank in MM not any scout like T50-2 or other crazy tanks. Today i couldnt spot T-150 onopen area from 200m. He just disapierd but he could see me... and killed me in 2 shoot and i did him nothing.

Edited by Barkmann, 12 December 2012 - 05:28 PM.


stealthed #42 Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:19 PM

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View PostBarkmann, on 12 December 2012 - 05:17 PM, said:

worst tier 6 tank in game:

- weak gun
- no armour
- mobility like med not light tank
- not enought HP. other tier 6 tanks have much more
- size like medium
- view range
- MM!

you forget terribad cammo :\

Edited by stealthed, 12 December 2012 - 07:32 PM.


Vulgarny #43 Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:35 PM

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Working as intended to force players to convert gold to free xp.

Cimex1105 #44 Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:39 PM

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Well. Tested a bit more. Really like the tank. I get the points of you guys complaining, trust me. But if you drive it like a raw egg on tracks, wait for opportunities to strike or try to do a bit of mobile spotting you can easily do 1000+ exp.

Best match after 15 games so far:
Victory!
Battle: Lakeville Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2012 16:26:10
Vehicle: T21
Experience received: 1.879
Credits received: 35.481
Battle Achievements: Sniper, Master Gunner, Sharpshooter, Mastery Badge: "Ace Tanker"

EDIT:
One thing that workts really well in this thing is squashing dedicated scouts. Remember, you have twice the weight of a T-50-2.

Edited by Cimex1105, 12 December 2012 - 05:42 PM.


Wysch #45 Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:46 PM

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View PostVulgarny, on 12 December 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:

Good MM? are you fuckign kidding me? I am constatly throw into t9-t10 games with( 5-8 T9+). Tanks is way way worse then chafee.

I had only three battles (gonna play more on Thursday and Friday, the Hobbit's calling):
2 of them were tier 7 battles
1 was tier 8 battle


Can't say anything bad about MM right now.

Rick_O_Shee #46 Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:13 PM

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Its a fine tank... just forget T20 look and do try to be T20. Be a Chaffee with bigger balls

Tawnyn1 #47 Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:18 PM

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View PostVulgarny, on 12 December 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:

Good MM? are you fuckign kidding me? I am constatly throw into t9-t10 games with( 5-8 T9+). Tanks is way way worse then chafee.

worse then a Chaffee ?? i sold that tank after 60 battles because it was such a let down and i never entered 1 tier 9 or 10 battle with it.
i did a few battles with the T21 and its just awesome, survived several tier 9 battles and always ended up in the top 5, i even killed a IS-8 with it.
no the T21 is a fine little tank, with great speed and maneuverability on damage its not the best light tank but the loading speed makes it up just fine.

Vulgarny #48 Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:51 PM

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Size of med, weight of med, agility of med, speed of med and fucking MM and HP of light tank. MADE BY WG TO PISS PEOPLE

Viperlein #49 Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:11 PM

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View PostRAZORLIGHT, on 12 December 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

that tank has the camo of a MAUS!

Noticed that too. Thought "Okay, can´t cruise around so let´s hide and spot" but the game went all like "OH NO YOU DON´T!" and I got spotted from 150m away while hiding behind a couple of bushes, standing still AND with a camo net. No sorry but that thing is just worse than every other scout in everything that counts.

Perzel #50 Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:25 PM

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This tank is WG saying: "Why do you still play this capitalistic US tanks you worthless unpersons. Go play the glorious sovjet belarussian super tanks and obey to Lukaschenka our glorious leader!"

LordRoyh #51 Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:47 PM

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I transferred my crew from Chaffee to this thing. After just few games I have the impression that Chaffee was way better, but it's too early to judge. Does anyone have new mm chart stashed somewhere? I've seen T21s enter tier 10 game and haven't seen one in tier 6 game.

zomed #52 Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:58 PM

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View PostLordRoyh, on 12 December 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

I transferred my crew from Chaffee to this thing. After just few games I have the impression that Chaffee was way better, but it's too early to judge. Does anyone have new mm chart stashed somewhere? I've seen T21s enter tier 10 game and haven't seen one in tier 6 game.

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zomed #53 Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:04 PM

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Let me clear up the situation a bit. The T21 though looks as a T20, it is actually an alternative of the Chaffee. The Chaffee is clearly a better tank: better mobility, better view range, better firepower. The reason of this is that though they have equal MM weight, the Chaffee can get into 2 tier higher battles. See the MM tier spread. Think of it as a downgraded but cheaper Chaffee - you sacrifice the awesomeness of the Chaffee, and you get a bit better MM, and lower repair cost.

Wysch #54 Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:30 PM

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View PostLordRoyh, on 12 December 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

I transferred my crew from Chaffee to this thing. After just few games I have the impression that Chaffee was way better, but it's too early to judge.

Same here.
I am actually quite disappointed with this tank right now, maybe when I'll mount some equips it get better, but frankly, I don't think so.

L04i #55 Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:50 PM

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Hard to say anything so far cuz i got only 90% crew and pings jumping up to 1000 today but for sure it could use more engine power. Agility is quite good actually it turns like crazy, since when 390m sight range is bad? That's more than many scout tanks.

Shongi #56 Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:45 PM

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View PostVulgarny, on 12 December 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:

Working as intended to force players to convert gold to free xp.

Had to login just to + you...never been truer words...

Private_Miros #57 Posted 12 December 2012 - 11:25 PM

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View PostPrivate_Miros, on 12 December 2012 - 02:39 PM, said:

Victory!  Map: !
Battle:: Steppes woensdag 12 december 2012 14:24:10
Vehicle:: T21
Exp:: 2.984 (x2)
+ Credits: 23.721
Achievements: : Top Gun, Master Gunner, Mastery Badge: "1st Class"

First game.

I can call myself a T20 veteran, and I do like Chaffee. This tank is made for me.

That was game one. This was game 2, still with 75% crew:

Victory!  Map:  Widepark woensdag 12 december 2012 23:14:19
Vehicle: T21
Exp: 1.650 + Credits: 23.136
Achievements: : Reaper, Master Gunner, Sharpshooter, Mastery Badge: "Ace Tanker"


Posted Image


I know two battles is too little to make a judgement, but I still find it a great tank.

AsyxA #58 Posted 13 December 2012 - 12:24 AM

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Hmm, will definately give it a try, however the hard-stats don't sound very promising to me.
Only did some matches (8.2) today but encountered one in my T29 in a Tier 9 match (mostly Tier 8 Tanks).

Kinda felt sorry for it, because it got spotted easier then their E-50 that stood/peek-a-boed on the biggest sandhill on the map.

Tried to flank me as the match turned hopeless for them, but was slow as hell on sandy ground ... took me two hits, he hit my turret ...

So far not impressed at all.

PhantomDivision #59 Posted 13 December 2012 - 12:26 AM

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I got you beat miros :D

Ace tanker in the first game.

Tank seems ok, nothing special. Plays exactly like chaffee, but with a weaker gun.

HubertGruber #60 Posted 13 December 2012 - 12:30 AM

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Useless turd,




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