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PANTHER ,VK3002 shall be 6 tier tankS


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15DPancAfrika #1 Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:46 AM

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I had possibility to play all 7 and 6 tiers tanks on my friend account and my conclusions are:

Panther and vk3002 are too weak for tier7. these tanks are similar to KV-1S and T-150 tanks tiier6 (armor thikness,guns, mobility and speed).
Max gun for VK3002 (88 mm L56) on tier7 it is a joke.(after nerf 88 gun sometimes i have problem to pen kv1 from 200m) :Smile-angry:
75mmL/100 gun on Panther good pen but makes only 135dmg. Rate of fire is not so high if compare to dmg.
Armor of both tanks is more adequate for tanks tier 6 (vk3600 has wow100mm)
So i am happy that i didnt grind for these tanks.
I was little frustrated, while playing these tanks for "having everything below avarage" for tanks tier7 :Smile_sceptic:

br00x #2 Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:51 AM

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The Panther is IMO, when played right, one of the best T7-Tanks in the game.

The gun penetrates EVERY enemy the panther encounters, and combined with the fast ROF is a real danger.

But its not really a medium tank... its a slow sniper-platform.

He_from_Norway_ #3 Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:52 AM

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Panther and VK is fine, just because you have a bad time does not mean it sucks for everyone, its just your play style (as always)

i have 60% WR on panther, but have never tried VK...

ho_chi_minhs_sweaty_toe #4 Posted 16 November 2012 - 12:19 PM

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View PostR4F431, on 16 November 2012 - 11:52 AM, said:

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Panther and VK is fine, just because you have a bad time does not mean it sucks for everyone, its just your play style (as always)

i have 60% WR on panther, but have never tried VK...

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He_from_Norway_ #5 Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:09 PM

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what are you going to do about it? even though, there are things i would't say if it not was for internet. and same goes for you.

br00x #6 Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:40 PM

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View PostR4F431, on 16 November 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

what are you going to do about it? even though, there are things i would't say if it not was for internet. and same goes for you.

Same goes for 99.9% of the people.

Now peace, love and tank warfare.

Atomic_Emu #7 Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:02 PM

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View Post15DPancAfrika, on 16 November 2012 - 11:46 AM, said:

Panther and vk3002 are too weak for tier7.
Panther has been ridiculously OP ever since it was moved from tier 8 to tier 7.
VK 3002 (DB) is fully comparable with T-43 and Comet.

And what 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56 nerf are you talking about? It has been like that since ever.

He_from_Norway_ #8 Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:28 PM

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View PostAtomic_Emu, on 16 November 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

Panther has been ridiculously OP ever since it was moved from tier 8 to tier 7.
VK 3002 (DB) is fully comparable with T-43 and Comet.

And what 8,8 cm KwK 36 L/56 nerf are you talking about? It has been like that since ever.

OP? panther? really? 82mm sloped at 50 degrees aint much, 198 pen and 135? damage aint much either.

do you want a nerf of frontal armour to 50mm ? making the effective armour 82m? as it was in reality...

nerf gun, making is useless for what it is... a sniper

nerf it mobility which is already bad for a medium?

its a perfectly balanced sniper, if you love brawling, you hate panthers, they pick you off in your russian tanks because you dont quite have the gun to take it out at distance....

but get up close and you probably catch him with his pants down

View Postbr00x, on 16 November 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

Same goes for 99.9% of the people.
Now peace, love and tank warfare.

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Edited by R4F431, 16 November 2012 - 07:30 PM.


Atomic_Emu #9 Posted 16 November 2012 - 08:32 PM

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First, Panther's frontal hull armour is 85 mm at 55°, 135 mm effective with 4° normalization. While not really good, it's still the best of tier 7 mediums and with some angling it has some degree of resistance against the guns of other tier 7 mediums (with the exception of 90 mm M3).
Second, 198 mm penetration is comparable with penetration of tier 7 heavies/tank destroyers (except Soviet...) and better than that of Soviet/American tier 8 mediums.
Third, damage is not high, but together with good rate of fire, excellent penetration and accuracy, Panther still has the best firepower of tier 7 mediums.
Fourth, whenever I played in platoon with my brother (who used Panther), it didn't matter if I used T-43, T20 or VK 3002 DB, he was still right behind me. Or in front of me in the case of old T-43 (which weighed more and had weaker engine than now).
Fifth, while not really suited for brawling, it's still agile enough to avoid being circled by T-44 (which will probably still win just because of the higher damage of the first shot and slightly better DpM). By which I mean it can keep its gun pointed at the enemy and still have some reserve.

I don't want to nerf it in any way, I just don't like when people say that the best tier 7 medium (together with T20, but those two are complete opposites) is bad just because it's German.

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