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KommandantPhilipp #121 Posted 09 February 2013 - 01:21 PM

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I have the feeling that Warthunder is a bit so pupular because its have better graphics and other things
but, like someone on the first page write, its maybe a bit like Dayz and WarZ, first many says Warz is cool it had better graphics ect. but it was not so good as everybody says.

I dont wanna say WT is bad because I didnt play it, I have it on my computer but I cant sign in because it says, "please aktivate your Javaskript", but its on all websites says I have it aktivate but WT says I havent. So I cant say its good either. And the augument its good because  it combiends all three types of Weapons, why WG dont wanna this system, here a hind, Tanks>Planes=Ships

I have more the feeling its a bit hyped because it has better graphics and its new.I dont wanna say WT is hyped like some shooter *Hust*Call of duty*Hust* but it feels like, many like it and only a few see how it is.

I have played WoWP and I have to say its not bad as somebody says, its make fun (okay many games make Fun) for example it has the HP system, many says its bad but it also have a real damage system maybe not so many systems but a moth ago I shot down a IL2 that has 100% with my Bf109, after 50% my Guns were overheaded and I can only fire with my MG slowly. a few shots later I dstroyed his wing and he was dead with 50 %.

so dont say WT is 1000 times better it has also problems and not say its so realstic, you cant land a plane in a battle and repair it in just a short time, I dont think this is realistic.

This is my opinion of the games please dont hate me because of it, correct me if you want and before you say I have no idea of WT you are a bit right but I read the Thead and what I read about problems of the game I write here. So please dont hype War Thunderis so much

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View PostKommandantPhilipp, on 09 February 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

I dont wanna say WT is bad because I didnt play it, I have it on my computer but I cant sign in because it says, "please aktivate your Javaskript", but its on all websites says I have it aktivate but WT says I havent. So I cant say its good either. And the augument its good because  it combiends all three types of Weapons, why WG dont wanna this system, here a hind, Tanks>Planes=Ships

I had the same error, probably you are using Windows Explorer IE7. Download Mozilla Firefox. Problem solved.

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Thank you _bt_ now I can play it  :Smile_Default:

OneSock #124 Posted 13 February 2013 - 05:37 PM

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War Thunder really makes my PC work hard. I guess it is the multi-core support.

Runs very nice though.

_bt_ #125 Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:46 PM

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View Post_bt_, on 09 February 2013 - 10:26 PM, said:

I had the same error, probably you are using Windows Explorer IE7. Download Mozilla Firefox. Problem solved.

No problem.

sebpia #126 Posted 14 February 2013 - 03:55 AM

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This could be fake but...

http://i49.tinypic.com/kd4i9s.jpg

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Edited by Toastrytoaster, 14 February 2013 - 03:57 AM.


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View PostToastrytoaster, on 14 February 2013 - 03:55 AM, said:


It is fake. Or rather: user-made suggestions. Up to now there is absolutely no information about what tanks/ships will be implemented, afaik. (There was a official announcement regarding that over in Gaijin's forum, but I've lost track of where to find it since they moved)

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View Postedfrancis001, on 17 January 2013 - 03:21 PM, said:

Good morning gamers

im guessing many of you have heard about War Thunder, the new MMO from Gaijin, well it might be new to you but im sure its a real shock to WG as it has completely knocked WOWP of the market, hopefully they will just cancel and try to quickly get WOWS out asap, or risk losing that project too as WT launches the fleet soon, but this isnt me blowing smoke in any one companies a**e but one must ask WG how did you cock up and allow this company to give you such a smack to the chops? lets look at the two.


WOT modes - random - defend/assault, encounter, standard modes, platoons, tank companies, clanwars.

WT modes- random, assault, capture, defend, escort, historic battles, scenario battles, campaign battles, platoons, custom battles, squadrons, army, fleet battles, tank battles, training rooms, single player against AI clanwars(global) and most importantly garage battles! oh and not to mention weather such as rain and night battles comming soon

yes they have garage battles, you select your 5 planes and when one dies the next is available, usually a lower or higher tier depending on your tactics. now we have been asking for a long time for this, and its always ready when its ready sort of answer, well you've been beaten to the post here im afraid.

WOT maps - the usual 1000 x 1000 being the biggest
WT maps    about 100 and still counting many at 15km x 15km (yes its aviation based but will include ground/naval units soon)

Units and tech trees

WOT - Britain (1/2), Germany, USSR x 2, France. US with proposed Japanese and European trees done when its done

WT - UK and Commonwealth, US, Germany, Italy, USSR, Japan, with 5000 types of air unit to be ready for release..yes 5000! and that's not including the fleet or tanks.

Premium, both have premium accounts, WT are cheaper, and you can take the planes out for a test flight to see how they handle before buying.
Rewards, both have rewards, it WOT you get a medal in you garage, in WT it unlocks new decals, logos, gives exp and even a bit of gold (eagles)

Computing stuff, - very similar here, WT offers Mulitcore support and PC too MAC play

Forum stuff, very similar in look and feel, there one ist moderated, which has its ups and downs, less censorship but more insults i guess


CONCLUSION: WOT is THE tank game (as it stands) but for options and re-playability im leaning towards WT, i love tanks so wont give up here, but i think its a pity WG have missed so many points that have been asked for and let a rival take those ideas and implement them, so please WG drop WOWP, you've lost here hands down, don't divert resources to an obsolete notion, get WOWS out asap, and look what Gaijin have done and try to implement them, you now have a market competitor and they are not to be trifled with - chop chop

edit: hopefully WG wont just delete this post as it will show intolerance to free speech/text, but instead take it as constructive criticism, and reply with how they are going to rival this competitor?

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Not to mention that Warthunder Haves German,HUngarian,Italian,Japanese,french,English,American planes tanks too!!!!!!! Warthunder the best!Also figthing will be much nicer as tanks than here in WOT!Realism will rule!

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View PostOldIronsides, on 14 February 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

It is fake. Or rather: user-made suggestions. Up to now there is absolutely no information about what tanks/ships will be implemented, afaik. (There was a official announcement regarding that over in Gaijin's forum, but I've lost track of where to find it since they moved)
Oh My God!Im playing it and in the Bar down there where says Aviatic , Army , and Fleet when i click on army or fleet it says: Feature comming soon!ITS NOT FAKE THEY WILL ADD IT AND PWN THIS WOT crap!XD

rancidpunk #130 Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:31 PM

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War Thunder I'm finding gives the longest and more enjoyable games atm, got a damaged Spitfire, either land it and repair or just crash it and choose your next plane, bomber, attacker or fighter depending on how the game is going.

WoWp I've just being playing the latest update and it doesn't feel much better than before but I haven't persevered enough with it to get the hang of flying with what feels like not too bad lag but is probably just the server based engine not quite up to speed yet.

WoT I'm suffering badly with luck MM wise the last month or so, it's happened before and will balance out eventually!

ABCWarrrior #131 Posted 28 February 2013 - 04:47 PM

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I installed and played War Thunder first time today:

1) The graphics are a lot more detailed and a lot smoother than WoT.  I'm getting up to 100 fps at max settings compared 50 fps and the levels of detail are much better.
2) Flying a WT plane is harder than driving a WoT tank ... which may be a good thing. You probably need an IQ of over 70 to fly a WT plane ... which isn't a requirement for WoT as we all know
3) The game controls work nicely
4) Flying planes is WAY more boring than driving a tank

I'll wait until they have tanks to take it seriously, but I think WG need to up their game.

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I started playing War Thunder and i´m both impressed and annoyed. I know it´s a open beta. but everyone knows that those f2p-betas with real money ingame shops allready implemented, can be seen as soft launch.

It is a great looking game and i love the fact that you can play anything from arcade to flight simulator.

- But never before has a f2p-game annoyed me so fast, after less than a week of playing the game. the moment you buy level 2 or 3 planes you get into a pool with players far higher your level. Matchmaking is not working at the moment.
- the detailed destruction system looks great, but feels totally random. you can follow another plane for minutes, hit it 10 times and nothing happens. at the same time another plane will shoot you down with a single volley. this bull***t happens all the time and is a total fun killer.
- german planes feel really weak, especially german bombers. while other nation bombers take a lot of beating, the He 111 that i unlocked always gets critically hit and shot down with one or two enemy volleys. yes it´s this s**t all over again. russian game developer means germans must be unplayable. WoT reloaded. (at least wargaming chanced their attitude over time. i think WoT has been balanced nicely, but it took some time)
- players are allways marked. you can see all enemy players because they you can see their names in big red letters on your HUD. this totally ruins the ambiance and makes playing tactically imposible. no chance for surprise attacks from above, no chance to outflank the enemy, no chance for bombers to avoid fighters by flying high.
- i would love to play this game in first person view, but the only way to do this, is to play simulator mode. and for this you need a joystick. playing first person cockpit view in arcade mode or hisorical battles is not an option. you´ll get owned hard hy 3rd person pilots.

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I, for one, welcome competition - it's always good for us players. In this stage of development WT is undoubtedly a very promising game. I admit I got bored with it pretty fast though because I'm not big fan of airplanes and flight games in general (which doesn't stop me to see huge potential that WT has), but if they really add armored vehicles and ships I might seriously think about jumping back into it.

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View PostRostlaube, on 03 March 2013 - 08:05 PM, said:

I started playing War Thunder and i´m both impressed and annoyed. I know it´s a open beta. but everyone knows that those f2p-betas with real money ingame shops allready implemented, can be seen as soft launch.

It is a great looking game and i love the fact that you can play anything from arcade to flight simulator.

- But never before has a f2p-game annoyed me so fast, after less than a week of playing the game. the moment you buy level 2 or 3 planes you get into a pool with players far higher your level. Matchmaking is not working at the moment.
- the detailed destruction system looks great, but feels totally random. you can follow another plane for minutes, hit it 10 times and nothing happens. at the same time another plane will shoot you down with a single volley. this bull***t happens all the time and is a total fun killer.
- german planes feel really weak, especially german bombers. while other nation bombers take a lot of beating, the He 111 that i unlocked always gets critically hit and shot down with one or two enemy volleys. yes it´s this s**t all over again. russian game developer means germans must be unplayable. WoT reloaded. (at least wargaming chanced their attitude over time. i think WoT has been balanced nicely, but it took some time)
- players are allways marked. you can see all enemy players because they you can see their names in big red letters on your HUD. this totally ruins the ambiance and makes playing tactically imposible. no chance for surprise attacks from above, no chance to outflank the enemy, no chance for bombers to avoid fighters by flying high.
- i would love to play this game in first person view, but the only way to do this, is to play simulator mode. and for this you need a joystick. playing first person cockpit view in arcade mode or hisorical battles is not an option. you´ll get owned hard hy 3rd person pilots.

Maybe you should make up your mind: do you want to play an arcade game or a simulation. If you choose arcade, then you'll have to live with those indicators.

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View PostFawlty_Turrets, on 18 January 2013 - 04:24 PM, said:

Also the simple fact is this: In the other game, I don't mind losing. It doesn't effect me at all. My personal performance is enough I don't lose out. In WoT I can get TWICE the xp of the rest of my team, do most damage, spot most and I get penalised for having an awful team. I get PENALISED for the ability of OTHERS. In that other game, I DON'T.
That alone makes it 1000 times more relaxing.

Dude ... spot on! I feel the same way ... WT is just 1000 times less frustrating than WoT ... I don't have to curse to myself for a bad team ... because I don't care ... I do my thing get rewarded and count it. I don't do damage to the plane? No worries i hit it ... i get reward .... No more dings, no more one shot kills .... no more troll guns ... True some planes can kill me easier than others .... but it is not so obvious AND i can always get back at him with my next plane .... because no matter what tier he is my bullets hurt ...

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I've had a WT account for a month or so and although I really like it, I don't feel like I want to play it all the time, like I do with WoT. I've just had about 2 weeks off from WT but every one of those days I got at least a couple of games of WoT in.

I find it odd, as I've always loved aircraft as long as I can remember (before I started WoT, all I knew about tanks was that they have tracks and you aim the pointy bit at the things you want to make explode) but there's something that just doesn't quite 'get' me in WT compared to WoT.

The biggest problem I've found with WT is that it's pretty much impossible to make any kind of impact on a game unless you're an absolutely fantastic player. I feel that in WoT, although obviously you get the teams that are doomed from the start, I often feel like I've helped carry a win. In WT though you just shoot and get kills and hope that everyone else is doing the same. Due to the fact that each team has 15 players fielding 4 or 5 planes each, even if you get 10 kills you've hardly made a dent in the other team. This is especially true of the Domination games, of which the matchmaker seems a little too keen to keep giving me.

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WoT has become awful... because of the playerbase. I'm not really talking about skill, I make my fair share of mistakes as well... but the complete lack of any situational awareness and any sense of tactical behaviour plus the often unfriendly tone exhibited by a large part of the playerbase just takes the fun out of the game recently, at least for me. 15:3 victories or 3:15 losses, just because one team lemminged/camped/did nothing but shoot birds aren't my kind of fun.

As soon as War Thunder releases ground combat I'm off... now I'm not too euphoric yet, War Thunder's playerbase may become just as bad as WoT's in time, but I will give it a decent chance. But one thing is for sure... if the WoT playerbase doesn't get better again, I will quit some day. Not tomorrow, but on mid to long term definately. I already play much less than when I started. And if War Thunder sucks as well... well, I can live without an online tank game I guess...

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View PostIndividual, on 17 January 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

WG do not care about community

"Buy gold ,and we will add new premium tanks and make premium-account based events, to make you buy more and more gold", and then bancrupt and die become premiumnoob good at losing money on a betagame  which requires NASA computer :Smile_trollface-3:


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I wanted to have non-edited post mr. cDa !
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Oh dear, look who has his own interests at heart here, because where I see it, NOT ONE of those that control the forums or chat rooms gives a damn about you (the paying player) I hope the 30 pieces of silver your being paid is enough, just like the rest of your band....

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View Posthuncsa123, on 25 February 2013 - 08:12 PM, said:

Not to mention that Warthunder Haves German,HUngarian,Italian,Japanese,french,English,American planes tanks too!!!!!!! Warthunder the best!Also figthing will be much nicer as tanks than here in WOT!Realism will rule!

If you think that war thunder is realistic I feel for you, I really do.

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Oh My God!Im playing it and in the Bar down there where says Aviatic , Army , and Fleet when i click on army or fleet it says: Feature comming soon!ITS NOT FAKE THEY WILL ADD IT AND PWN THIS WOT crap!XD

This bit, you need to understand that even if Warthunder's tank aspect is amazing and attracts millions of players it will not really damaged WoT because they are likely going to offer completely different types of game play. World of Tanks is an arcade game, not a simulator, you people need to understand that.

This whole argument is like COD vs BF, or any FPS vs any others, they are SIMILAR games with their own twist and it is OK to play them both, you do not have to pick a side.

I just want to add my opinion of WT, I think it has a lot of potential, I like the plane controls and I think it is fun, but I do get bored of it rather easier and I think that there is a lot of problems like credit earnings (I have no premium account and even when I am top of the board I lose 5k+ credits) and others, but I am mainly just waiting for the tanks.

Edited by AhoyDeerrr, 10 March 2013 - 10:06 PM.


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I've just found out that all vital calculations (aiming, hit detection, damage, positioning etc) in WT are done client side and got instantly worried about the future because major hacks and all sorts of cheats are relatively easy to implement in such environment. It's not that I've noticed those things but to be honest, I wasn't playing that much at all. Anyway... if this is true, Gaijin risks a lot and may soon run into serious troubles - especially if they manage to attract huge playerbase like WoT did.




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