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Trilandian #41 Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:07 PM

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View PostHornet331, on 17 January 2013 - 05:04 PM, said:

By the same logic WoT would be the same... you also gain a very big advantage from having a 100% from start.

Its pay to skip/not to grind same as wot (only the extent is different), it would be p2w if you couldn't level any of this skills in a normal way or is unachievable without money. Wait a year or so till WoT income begins to shrink and you can use converted xp to also level your skills.

That's not the same at all. You can get a crew from 75% to 100% fairly quickly, but completely maxing them out with money is ludicrous. There's a clear difference between paying to skip ahead (like in WT), and buying boosts (like in WoT), because with the former you can just buy everything you could need without even touching the game.

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View PostTrilandian, on 17 January 2013 - 03:59 PM, said:

As far as I know, there's no connection between Gaijin and Ubisoft.

Is there any way to buy content for this game, get premium or wotnot, without a Uplay account?

Is there any way to create an account for this game without having or creating a Uplay account?

These are genuine questions by the way. I am not trying to make any point here, I do not know the answers myself.

Trilandian #43 Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:13 PM

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View PostCuddly_Spider, on 17 January 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

Is there any way to buy content for this game, get premium or wotnot, without a Uplay account?

Is there any way to create an account for this game without having or creating a Uplay account?

These are genuine questions by the way. I am not trying to make any point here, I do not know the answers myself.

Dude... it's YUPLAY, not Uplay. It's not the same thing.

StillF_Hostile #44 Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:30 PM

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Only thing that's keeping me in Wot is that stupid UP SuperPershing and few days of premium left ... Then a big break til WG decides to think about making the gameplay more diverse. I don't care about any of the new tanks anymore as none of them as any special features, just some minor differences in armor/speed/gun and model.

Hornet331 #45 Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:49 PM

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View PostTrilandian, on 17 January 2013 - 05:07 PM, said:

That's not the same at all. You can get a crew from 75% to 100% fairly quickly, but completely maxing them out with money is ludicrous. There's a clear difference between paying to skip ahead (like in WT), and buying boosts (like in WoT), because with the former you can just buy everything you could need without even touching the game.

no you dont, try playing non premium account from the start, the earliest level you get a 100% and maybe a skill is T6 (but usually with T7). Every time you convert your crew you pretty much loose all the progress you made, especial when you switch tank class.

Its often not even worth to convert your crew as a fresh 75% crew has better skill then a crew you convert.
If someone would convert always at 100%, they probably would have the first skill already leveld out by the time they hit T6, at the same time you barley have a 100% crew. And it makes quite a difference if you have a crew with 100% repair or 0%, one will fix tracks in a few seconds, the other is a sitting duck, ready for arty food.

The difference is one game is less obvious about it. And as usual noone forces anyone to play or pay any of this games.

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View PostCuddly_Spider, on 17 January 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

Is there any way to buy content for this game, get premium or wotnot, without a Uplay account?

Is there any way to create an account for this game without having or creating a Uplay account?

These are genuine questions by the way. I am not trying to make any point here, I do not know the answers myself.

i have

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i find it great fun so far, mostly the different modes is keeping me happy

Victorious_Nox #48 Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:49 PM

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WOT,WOWP,WOWS,WT



Fuck it im going back to company of heroes, just so i can cry myself to sleep after using the British.....

knoxySR #49 Posted 17 January 2013 - 08:58 PM

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Just watch some review and vidoes of it on youtubes, everyone says it blows the arse off of wowp, wonder if it will have bullshit and wtf moments like wot runs on

PooinClingfilm #50 Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:37 PM

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my only hope is it'll force WG to lower their prices.

PanzyBattalion #51 Posted 18 January 2013 - 10:29 AM

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Well....WT I had never heard of it till seeing it on these forums and eh....it never really sparked interest, also the tech tree for the tanks is more fucked up, think WG hate Germany? Look at the German tank tech tree for WT and compare it to USSR, UK and USA, thats right, they're pitching actual WW2 German tanks at top teir (Tiger II, Panther, Panther II, JagdTiger) agaisnts M-48 Pattons, Centurion Mk.III's and T-55's, so yeah, people complain about the fantasy tanks, point is, those fantasy tanks atleast level the playing field.

Planes I only really like the BF-109 from WW2, so WW2 plane combat kinda makes me bored, ships I'm interested in but I'll wait for WoWS cause of my final reason, Gaijun made X-Blades, and if those scum bags think they can charge money for terrible games like X-Blades, they can bugger off.

Dronier #52 Posted 18 January 2013 - 01:39 PM

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FREE TO PLAY ? Name any game out there that is truly FREE TO PLAY !! its a myth a Marketing ploy to get you in the game and eventually they turn the thumb screws more and more creating frustration in players which in turn makes the PAY TO WIN or PAY TO PLAY more enticing then one day in a fit of rage you do it.. you click that golden button BUY GOLD..

Its like a narcotic waiting to grab you the gaming developers are the pushers they beckon you with feilds of gold and nicer graphics for your garages or make your player look much more then the rest.. it grasps you buy the hand tickling your thoughts.. "just one payment is all I need" you think "just one then I will stop"

TO LATE that first payment then leads to realisation that the MAN has you firmly where he wants you.. but it dosnt stop there, they keep truning the thumb screws you become their puppet making trips to there digital shop and premium accounts.. that extra bling that really dosnt effect anything in game but give you a promise of 5% camo .. or the tank that gives you more credits then they NERF you so much you scream as if your in pain.. a day later you click BUY again and again.. FREE TO PLAY; yes your free to play it as long as you click BUY..

Gaming is adictive no matter how much we play you enjoy gaming and why not it can be a good past time when intergrated with out door activities and other socialising events, we all yell and scream that the games we play are not perfect and or changed to our disliking you forget its a game it bites into you like reality, but name any game thats unique different or WOW FACTOR thats WOW not as in world of war craft WOW..

No matter what you play there all the same nowa days in one way or another..

I would rather FREE TO PLAY be a thing of the past becouse you always end up paying more then a normaly subscription game and even they have SHOPS open to buy DIGITAL pixles clothing, mounts, gizmos and BLING.. name any game that dosnt do this now ..

And the while those that pay to play are fueling the game for those who dont want to you are infact subsidising for others to play the game FOR FREE.. these are the ones who tend to scream the loudest and yell for nerfs or are they ?!!

Those that do support their game buy the addictive GOLDEN BUY button are then accused of being a pay to win or wallett warrior noob through jealous eyes who dont realise its those wallet warriors that allow THIER PLAY FOR FREE remains just that.. !!

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I'm not so much into planes, but I'll follow WT closely to see how things develop over on their side.
I think I sympathize more with WoT, but in the end the most interesting thing for us to see is how WG is going to "defend their turf". Like a starting fight of giants.
Looks like the fat guy is finally going to have to do some running.  :Smile_popcorn1:

sheep6665 #54 Posted 18 January 2013 - 03:12 PM

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View PostFawlty_Turrets, on 17 January 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

No sub 500 rating zombies throwing games away, actual pitched battles where one guy can get the win.
Another point here and this is a big one for me...
Implying that they'll not play it if WT would gain popularity...
Do you realise, that chimps play every popular MMO game?
As I said in other thread - I'll try the "tank" game, then decide which one is better.

Edited by sheep6665, 18 January 2013 - 03:13 PM.


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View PostDarkclin, on 17 January 2013 - 04:43 PM, said:

This is called pay to win, cheap or not doesn't change the fact that paying you can get a very big advantage against other players who didn't pay...
It's pay to do it a bit faster. A bit like WoT premium account. And you can have all the paid up faster crew you like, if you can't fly -you'll get smashed. In this game, certain tanks and types of tank can compensate to some degree for lack of skill
I've seen peeps who paid their way to jets-and can't fly em. I've seen a tier 4 plane nail a jet. In WoT ,Tier 4's can't nail a tier X heavy tank.
Believe what you will. After the recent treatment I have gotten from WG community team-I'm off.
This game is starting to go down a very dark path and if you think for one second WG won't try to squeeze more money out of you-you are a foolish man.
Take the tank freezing in CW as an example. This was done to make you grind MORE tanks. Camo giving you a 5% bonus, made to entice competitive players to spend gold. Income nerfs on all tanks, made to make you spend on premium accounts, converting gold to cash. Notice the introduction of cash bundles in the giftshop?
Also the simple fact is this: In the other game, I don't mind losing. It doesn't effect me at all. My personal performance is enough I don't lose out. In WoT I can get TWICE the xp of the rest of my team, do most damage, spot most and I get penalised for having an awful team. I get PENALISED for the ability of OTHERS. In that other game, I DON'T.
That alone makes it 1000 times more relaxing.
Anyone with a rational thought in their mind can't defend WG one jot.

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View PostTrilandian, on 17 January 2013 - 03:32 PM, said:

I've played War Thunder for a short while, emphasis on played - past tense. While, on a purely mechanical level, it's a really great game, the reason I'm not playing it right now is because of the absolutely horrific business model.

People might complain about WoT having some pay to win elements, but it's nothing compared to what goes on in War Thunder.

In War Thunder, the default game mode is like the planned garage battle mode for WoT, in which, when a player's vehicle is destroyed, they spawn in another vehicle that they own. The thing with War Thunder is, though, that the limit to how many times you can respawn is determined solely by how many planes you have in the hangar, and you can only expand you hangar past a certain point with, you guessed it, gold.

Speaking of gold, in WoT, you can train your crew to 100% major qualification using gold, but no further. In War Thunder, on the other hand, there is no limit. You can actually buy maxed-out crews.

In summation, unless Gaijin completely revise their business model, I won't be going anywhere near War Thunder.

You can buy garage slots for Gold in WoT too, where's the bad thing?

And even if you dont buy garage slots, WT has more total garage slots, they're limited by NATION not player.

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View PostFawlty_Turrets, on 18 January 2013 - 04:24 PM, said:

I've seen peeps who paid their way to jets-and can't fly em. I've seen a tier 4 plane nail a jet. In WoT ,Tier 4's can't nail a tier X heavy tank.
I'm sorry, but your posts are biased as hell - I'm pretty sure, that in their tank game it'll not be really different than in WoT in this kind of things, I mean - look at their tech trees - http://forum.worldof...35#entry3750035
You've got Tiger, at lvl/tier(dunno how's it called) 12, and StuG3 B at 4(with short 75) or PzIII aufs N at 8 with the same gun. There's no way in which they can hurt Tiger with it(I don't know how the HE mechanics will work, but I bet that it won't be much more efficient than in WoT) apart from some tiny weakspots and maybe rear.
Airplane=/=tank, you've forgotten about it.

I'm writing it again - I will play the "better" game, if WT will be better, then I'm going play it, if not - I'll stay in WoT, but some of you act in the same way, in which you've acted when BF3/Diablo3/MWO/etc. was about to came off/anounced/came of. I'll remind you - they were "WoT killers", and somehow this game is still alive. In every single online game people seem to act like that, and somehow most of them still exist(DotA2 was intended to kill LoL and the only result is, that we've got 2 popular MOBA games, GW2 was "WoW killer", and WoW is still here etc.), so please, avoid being biased.

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View Postsheep6665, on 18 January 2013 - 06:57 PM, said:

I'm sorry, but your posts are biased as hell - I'm pretty sure, that in their tank game it'll not be really different than in WoT in this kind of things, I mean - look at their tech trees - http://forum.worldof...35#entry3750035
I wouldn't take these screenshots too serious, cause i've heard they are just made by a fan.
Actual there are no official screenshots of any WT-Tanks Tech Trees around, as far as i know.

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I played one game yesterday. I liked it, but I like tanks better than planes. Now, if WT can keep to their schedule and introduce tanks later this year, I will take my nooby arse over to WT, unless WG change their tune.

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View Postsheep6665, on 18 January 2013 - 06:57 PM, said:

I'm sorry, but your posts are biased as hell - I'm pretty sure, that in their tank game it'll not be really different than in WoT in this kind of things, I mean - look at their tech trees - http://forum.worldof...35#entry3750035
You've got Tiger, at lvl/tier(dunno how's it called) 12, and StuG3 B at 4(with short 75) or PzIII aufs N at 8 with the same gun. There's no way in which they can hurt Tiger with it(I don't know how the HE mechanics will work, but I bet that it won't be much more efficient than in WoT) apart from some tiny weakspots and maybe rear.
Airplane=/=tank, you've forgotten about it.

I'm writing it again - I will play the "better" game, if WT will be better, then I'm going play it, if not - I'll stay in WoT, but some of you act in the same way, in which you've acted when BF3/Diablo3/MWO/etc. was about to came off/anounced/came of. I'll remind you - they were "WoT killers", and somehow this game is still alive. In every single online game people seem to act like that, and somehow most of them still exist(DotA2 was intended to kill LoL and the only result is, that we've got 2 popular MOBA games, GW2 was "WoW killer", and WoW is still here etc.), so please, avoid being biased.

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