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Turbotiger #1 Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:20 PM

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Is this list by Cpt_Jack_Sparrow still the correct banned mod list?

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Ok! Lets put it together:

mods which are not permitted by WG:
mods which remove leaves (Agent Orange)
  • Arty sniper view mod
  • Artillery Zoom Out
  • Freefly camera mod
  • Tracerhack
  • Glasbox Skins

Source: http://forum.worldof...er-version-080/ approved by community coordinator

Generally. Everything what gives you a significant advantage to other users is considered a cheat. EULA mentions those mods under "changing the WoT experience". With experience it is not meant that it looks different. Experience points to what you should be able to and what you should not be able to.

So why are the mods above are forbidden.

1. Agent Orange, leaves removing mods
These mods give you the advantage to see the exact position and angle of the tank even if it should be hiding behind a bush. Ofc, you see the silhouette through the bush, but you can not say where the front is pointing, you can only guess where the front is pointing by movement of the targeted tank.

2. Arty sniper view mod
This mods gives you clear understandable advantage that you can easily aim with it like a tank in closer combat.

3. Artillery Zoom Out
The advantage here is, that you can overview a much bigger area when you are searching for arty tracers.

4. Freefly camera mod
With this mod you can kinda unbind the attachment of the camera off your tank. So you are able to "fly" around the map just with your camera. Ofc, this doesn't affect the spotting system but it gives you an advantage.

5. Tracerhack
The original Tracerhack is not working anymore anyway, as the duration of tracer visibility is managed by the server since a certain update, but changing transparency can make tracers more visible, so that they are easier to see.

6. Glasbox Skins
These Skins allow you to look "through" the tanks and see the exactly position of the modules and crew inside it.

So some may ask what is the difference to the allowed Hitzone skins. On Hitzone skins you see a printed area behind which the modules are located. But it is by far not that accurate as the glasbox skins are. So some might read the wikis blogs etc. and learn by these sources where modules are and some may use hitbox skins. I do not think thats such a big difference. Hitbox skins are tolerated.

FYI, some might say "XVM is not allowed". Thats not true. WG does not like it much, but its also tolerated.

Kind regards

Would it be possible for the moderators to create an updated/pinned topic containing the current ban list.

Edit: Updated list
  • Arty sniper view mod
  • Artillery Zoom Out
  • Freefly camera mod
  • Tracerhack
  • Glasbox Skin
  • Laserpointer mod

Edited by Turbotiger, 02 February 2013 - 04:51 PM.


XiTiX #2 Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:23 PM

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You are missing one :)

Warheart1992 #3 Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:25 PM

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You miss

Nr7 : Brains not allowed when playing

Leadbucket #4 Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:27 PM

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Yes, Cat_Jack_Sparrow's list is quite on the mark.

It would be better for the game if players could see a definite banned list some where but I suppose the moderator's are afraid that such a list would be used as an advertisement for such modification's and so it could be counter-productive.

It's a no win situation. :Smile_sad:

Edited by Leadbucket, 02 February 2013 - 04:28 PM.


M1ll4n #5 Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:28 PM

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I would like to point out that nobody can ever prove, not even the game moderators, that you are using any of these mods and you can't get banned for using any of them, unless you do something as stupid as post a screenshot of yourself using them.


I don't encourage use of these banned mods.

It's just a friendly, informed tip.

ABC_Przyrody #6 Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:28 PM

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Yeah, you're missing one + arty zoom out doesn't work (it doesn't show tracers if zoomed out more then standard) so it's rather safe to use.

Turbotiger #7 Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:28 PM

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View PostXiTiX, on 02 February 2013 - 04:23 PM, said:

You are missing one :)

Would it be possible for you to reveal which one? ;)

Zszywacz #8 Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:36 PM

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View PostWarheart1992, on 02 February 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

You miss

Nr7 : Brains not allowed when playing

+1 - this is a preperation for the future patch changes.
I heard rumors that brain will be a module you can put on a tank.

Mezmaryse #9 Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:37 PM

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no mod has ever officially been banned by WG, there was never ever a statement which blacklisted any

Corvi #10 Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:38 PM

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View PostMezmaryse, on 02 February 2013 - 04:37 PM, said:

no mod has ever officially been banned by WG, there was never ever a statement which blacklisted any

Not officially, but you still get banned for using them. So ..

Turbo, you are missing the Laserpointer mod.

rixto003 #11 Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:39 PM

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Theres another bannable mod.
Invisible foliage (trees/bushes transparent)

Mezmaryse #12 Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:43 PM

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View PostCorvi, on 02 February 2013 - 04:38 PM, said:

Not officially, but you still get banned for using them. So ..

Turbo, you are missing the Laserpointer mod.

they cant see what we are doing, they dont know whats in our folders and they dont know what files exist in there either, you can remove dozens of files and folders of the game and it doesnt even affect the game or client as if the files dont even matter. so...

HonzaM #13 Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:44 PM

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I must always laugh when people call this cheats as "mods"  :Smile_veryhappy:  It is the same with mafia when they take the money for "protecting" :Smile_teethhappy:

HonzaM #14 Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:45 PM

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View PostMezmaryse, on 02 February 2013 - 04:43 PM, said:

they cant see what we are doing, they dont know whats in our folders and they dont know what files exist in there either, you can remove dozens of files and folders of the game and it doesnt even affect the game or client as if the files dont even matter. so...

Yea that´s pretty much sux. There is no way how they can detect cheaters. Only if cheater is so stupid and put some replay or screenshot on forum.

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View PostHonzaM, on 02 February 2013 - 04:45 PM, said:

Yea that´s pretty much sux. There is no way how they can detect cheaters. Only if cheater is so stupid and put some replay or screenshot on forum.

i cant see how most of those mods are cheating except for the arty sniper view mod. freefly cams are the same as max zoom out mods, glassbox skins are the same as hitzone skins, arty zoom out is just bunch of useless stuff since tracers are fixed allready, lasersigh mods arent even correct all the time, pepole open up a big can of it for nothing

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View PostMezmaryse, on 02 February 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

i cant see how most of those mods are cheating except for the arty sniper view mod. freefly cams are the same as max zoom out mods, glassbox skins are the same as hitzone skins, arty zoom out is just bunch of useless stuff since tracers are fixed allready, lasersigh mods arent even correct all the time, pepole open up a big can of it for nothing

This gentleman is dangerously correct.

Turbotiger #17 Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:53 PM

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There are plenty rumors pointing in the direction that WG will implement server controlled scanning of the client files, dont know if they are true though, but it would be a logical next step.

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View PostM1ll4n, on 02 February 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

This gentleman is dangerously correct.

in other words, either ban all mods or dont even bother "tolerating" some which are pretty much light versions of so called "banned" mods. having an individual look to the UI is cool, i like that too but seeing Joves of the russian server who uploads to over 100k subscribers with removed sky, removed haze, tweaked effect... well... this guy used lasersights couple of vids and what not. not judging him as i used agent orange from 7.5 to 8.1 but WG has to do something here to clarify this. my email to support is still unanswered on this topic(2 months ago)

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View PostTurbotiger, on 02 February 2013 - 04:53 PM, said:

There are plenty rumors pointing in the direction that WG will implement server controlled scanning of the client files, dont know if they are true though, but it would be a logical next step.

That is a dangerous line to cross, would be illegal in a lot of countries and is a huge potential security breach. Besides it would eat CPU ressources even more as a 1 time check is useless, you need to check like every seconds. Even then it is useless, people can hook directly in memory.

So basically, going that route would surely complicate the way of cheaters, but it is going to cost a huge sum of money to WG for a 3 to 6 months result, until cheaters catch up. Furthermore it WILL attrack hackers, because they like challenges, and will consider it a good one.

The cons outweight the pros by a huge margin; i cant see WG doint that.


View PostM1ll4n, on 02 February 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

This gentleman is dangerously correct.

Yup. IMHO arty sniper view could help, but i cant think of any other mod here that gives "a definite advantage". Lasersight is supposed to work only on spotted tanks anyway, zooming out will not let you spot anything from further than what you are supposed to see, and the same goes for the flying camera mod (which i never heard about but would be nice to enable in replays). If you have time to change your camera, that is that much time you are not spending commanding your tank. I see that more a hindrance than a help ...

Anyway, lame players will still be lame even if they use cheats.

But when you have no way to check for offenses, that is kind of hard to enforce a prohibition policy.

HonzaM #20 Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:36 PM

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And there is one another way how to detect cheaters. Let them come to defend cheats on forum  :Smile_veryhappy:  In this forum you can clearly see who is using those "mods". Shame on you cheaters, shame on you.