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Poll: Why nerf the VK2801?! (94 members have cast votes)

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Should WG nerf the Vk2801 as they do in 8.4 update?

  1. Yes! (12 votes [12.37%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.37%

  2. No! (85 votes [87.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 87.63%

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spuff #21 Posted 24 June 2013 - 09:21 PM

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I'd been using the 75mm for a few months and doing ok. Not as good as 105 pre 8.4 but not too bad. Now with the new patch and the acc buff I've gone back to 105 and other than loss of speed from pre 8.4 the gun makes the tank feel much more like it used to!

savizudis #22 Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:44 PM

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GG nerfing vk2801, and helcat still  72kmh + 74 front armor same both 6 tier WG = "GG" .

Hellcat player was good and fast all time chaced and hunted me (sneaky play) what i had only his turet from time to time behind hills, if not teammate, i was already dead, cause helcat did 89% dmg and hunted to finish me of, while i hited him x3 "gold" times with 0 dmg. He managed to hit me 3 times too... direct front hits, while aimed not to miss himm.

GG wargaming. Cant run away or atleast something - just even slower boat ; cant deal dmg, same tier.

Yes pelase Just nerf more VK2801, yes yes, please nerf it even more, Hes op.

Edited by savizudis, 26 June 2013 - 11:46 PM.


Defy #23 Posted 27 June 2013 - 07:19 AM

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View Postsavizudis, on 26 June 2013 - 11:44 PM, said:

GG nerfing vk2801, and helcat still  72kmh + 74 front armor same both 6 tier WG = "GG" .

Hellcat player was good and fast all time chaced and hunted me (sneaky play) what i had only his turet from time to time behind hills, if not teammate, i was already dead, cause helcat did 89% dmg and hunted to finish me of, while i hited him x3 "gold" times with 0 dmg. He managed to hit me 3 times too... direct front hits, while aimed not to miss himm.

GG wargaming. Cant run away or atleast something - just even slower boat ; cant deal dmg, same tier.

Yes pelase Just nerf more VK2801, yes yes, please nerf it even more, Hes op.
i dont understand what u are trying to say, but hellcat have pretty much zero armor, u will pretty much pen it everytime with any gun. But hellcat is still very good tank.

On the VK2801 topic, i have been using 105 with HE exclusively, and imo its much better than its 75mm gun. My damage per battle jumped more than double with it (or even more), also it trolls light tanks like its no tomorrow. I lost count of the kills of t21 i had yesterday, as every shot pretty much does 400+ damage . Honestly 105 is light tank killer. Also it will reliably damage heavily armored targets, unlike 75mm which will bounce from 8+ tier almost everytime, from every side.
I had funny kill yesterday. I was spotting behind bushes, and i saw Jagdpanther coming straight to me, i put one shot into him, do 100damage and go behind a rock, unfazed by this Jagdpanther goes straight to me for the kill. Now he goes straight in front of me, 30meters apart, he puts his first shot in, bang tracks destroyed zero damage, i zero in on his commander hatch in his front with 105 he, bang 400damage, he puts second shot into me, 300damage. And then i finish him up with second shot.
Honestly in my opinion if they would buff 105 accuracy so you could target weak-spots with it at longer range, it would be pretty balanced.

savizudis #24 Posted 27 June 2013 - 12:15 PM

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well, yes helcat hull/body is weaker but check out turets, there is one with 74 armor front, thats enough to be op behind rocks hills and nice speed acceleration

agree that 105 gun is only one option now to be something in some matches, 75mm gun before nerf, was good at one combo (lightweight vk as possible to active scout wihtout dmg): lightweight turet + leightwight gun was like ~22tons vk if im corect, so it is weaker in all but much more agile with 75 but not now, hes +2tons hes slower and weaker overall, so building for fast acceleration with 75 gun is total past to me

Edited by savizudis, 27 June 2013 - 12:27 PM.


Defy #25 Posted 28 June 2013 - 11:20 AM

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i dunno, i just 2shot hellcats every single time with HE. Fast low armored tanks are VK 2801 dream. I especially like to shoot comet and cromwell in there asses. 1 Shotting ELC AMX is also lol'worthy.

savizudis #26 Posted 03 July 2013 - 12:36 PM

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Yes that means u did not encoutered HC with that turet.
Aand btw i have no problems too hit him in sides and back with some dmg, if lucky to spot him unprepared, facing him directly he is much more agile, and can easily outrun vk, outshot and destroy.

I know olny one thing in past i could atleast shot - ram - shot tanks, now is is a dream on shit - impossible, if faced directly. Any one now can outrun vk, wiht u u cant outrun most meds and heavies turets anymore.. This is so retarded... Now only one fkn last shit left on vk passive spoter-"sniper". F*** this WG move.............

I know another one thing nubs with HC are dying fast, not skiled ones.

Edited by savizudis, 03 July 2013 - 12:40 PM.


SBKDisco #27 Posted 22 July 2013 - 12:23 AM

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Now there is a question, in case no one has answered it for you yet I will.

Q.   Why nerf the VK2801?
A.   Because it's a fun tank and the players aren't supposed to be having fun.

MetalManiac69 #28 Posted 22 July 2013 - 08:34 PM

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after 555 battles in (what used to be) my favorite tank, i sold it and re-bought Leopard. boy what an improvement, so much more fun, more agility and way better MM...

Askorti #29 Posted 22 July 2013 - 09:31 PM

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Quite frankly I'm considering doing the same. VK28 is not THAT bad, but it's not as enjoyable as it used to be. Before I really liked rolling out in it, even without using HEAT ammo. Now its just not as much fun as it was before.

Suranis1 #30 Posted 23 July 2013 - 01:34 AM

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Its more forgiving without the horrific rep costs, but yeah, I have a lot more fun in a VK 3601 these days.




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