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Hornet331 #981 Posted 01 November 2011 - 02:39 PM

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View Postmamlas, on 29 October 2011 - 10:36 PM, said:

T59 is indeed T-54 with weaker gun tier lower. And thats it.



let me laugh about this statement.... T54 is nothing like T59...

T54 has better armor, better gun, better agility, better speed, better accelartion.

I prefer t-44 over t59 since it also has better agillity and accelartion with same gun, and thats far more important on a medium then a bit better armor.

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Type 59 is rather similar to t-44 not t-54

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View Postburny1, on 26 October 2011 - 07:24 AM, said:

Quick question:
What are the cost of the t54?
Repair? Ammor for the guns?

Thanks! :Smile_honoring:

total repair 16-19.000 and i often spend either a first aid or repair kit if engine or ammo or loader is hit, so 3000 extra in some cases
ammo cost with the best gun in a good battle with 1-3 kills and some damaged, 14-28.000  ;)  its worth it

my record spending on ammo is 35.000 but that was close to all my rounds

Xp earning are rather good tho because that gun does good damage, 700 for a bad battle and 900-1200 is my normal sorta range.

I can earn money with it but only on a good run, getting 35.000 for a battle is not always enough to assure profit, sadly getting 45-60.000 is not the norm.

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Spahpanzer_Kommandant #984 Posted 18 November 2011 - 11:31 AM

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I find the T-54 surprisingly profitable on a win, it also brings very good xp (a bit better than the E-75).

I also have the Type 59 and despite what people say they're very similar.
The chinese is basically a stock T-54.

Both work very well in their corresponding matchmaking frame.

The D-54 gun is a monster compared to the LB-1.

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View PostFlak509, on 17 November 2011 - 10:01 AM, said:

total repair 16-19.000 21.000
fixed it for ya

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View Postschuberth, on 18 November 2011 - 02:34 PM, said:

fixed it for ya

well its not always, but 3000 extra beats getting killed

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positive waves man  B)

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20-21k is more like when u get ammo rack explosion

Hawker_gb #988 Posted 21 November 2011 - 11:25 AM

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After long time i pull my from garage.

First battle

Victory!
Battle: Sand River 21. studenog 2011. 11:14:30
Vehicle: T-54
Experience received: 7.383 ()
Credits received: 87.784
Battle Achievements: Steel Wall, Top Gun

th3freakie #989 Posted 23 November 2011 - 12:27 PM

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You gotta teach me your strategy for that map ;)

But yeah, when the T-54 rocks, it rocks hard.

Denii #990 Posted 25 November 2011 - 08:05 AM

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Mobility wise its a nice tank even stock but the d10t is absolutely useless at t9. The lb1 seems the dames, you'll just ding/bounce faster and more accurately.

Seems like its going to be a long painful ride till top gun.

Batina #991 Posted 25 November 2011 - 09:30 AM

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It needs to be repeated I guess every once in a while:

This thread dates dec/2010. At that time T-54 was FOTM OP WTFPWN-mobile.
With release it got heavily nerfed and now its weakest of the three speeders available :)

My T-54: burns almost every match, is gone in 2-3 shots, cant ding a tier 5 TD from across the map frontally, is relatively large (they made it bigger as well) and cant do damage to tier 9 tanks properly with D10T gun, not even from behind its unreliable. Top gun on it is tad a bit better but it costs so much that you better stop and aim because u cant afford to shoot while driving and miss  :lol:
Also module damage is tremendous - I get 1 hit from random joe and it lights up, 3 modules 1 crew out by the time fire extinguisher put fire out.

Still it can be fun to play with some luck with balancer teaming you with rushing T34, but hey...

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Docholiday #992 Posted 05 December 2011 - 09:58 PM

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I played every russian medium Tank on my way to the T-54.

Now I have him and it is .. "crappy"  :Smile-playing:

Due to the matchmaking it is only a scout for the tier X Tanks.  And for these adversaries the guns of the T-54 are no match. It is better to drive a T-50 or T50-2. The guns of these two are useless against tierX heavys too but they are fast.  
Why does T-54 nearly every time fight only agains TierX Tanks   but   You can often find 5  T-59 Tanks  in one match against tier V-VII tanks.


It is the worst russian medium tank. I am really dissapointed.         The "the T-54 is so overpowered"-whiners have done good work ! :angry:

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View PostDocholiday, on 05 December 2011 - 09:58 PM, said:

I played every russian medium Tank on my way to the T-54.

Now I have him and it is .. "crappy"  :Smile-playing:

Due to the matchmaking it is only a scout for the tier X Tanks.  And for these adversaries the guns of the T-54 are no match. It is better to drive a T-50 or T50-2. The guns of these two are useless against tierX heavys too but they are fast.  
Why does T-54 nearly every time fight only agains TierX Tanks   but   You can often find 5  T-59 Tanks  in one match against tier V-VII tanks.


It is the worst russian medium tank. I am really dissapointed. The "the T-54 is so overpowered"-whiners have done good work ! :angry:

Doc

The 54 is still a very solid tank, but now it actually has alternatives, namely the Patton and E-50(tho both are situational), T-54 is "mister average", housing OK gun, good armor(for a medium),good mobility. I believe it will get better in 7.0 as they are increasing the ammo rack's hp pool, and the normalization nerf will make it's armor even better. If used as a real medium (little scouting/spotting, some flanking, supporting, taking hills first, etc.) it is good, but if you think you are supposed to kill TIX&TX heavies head on, then I have bad news for you, it's not supposed to do that (and neither Patton or E-50 can do it). In beta it was like a King Tiger with fighter jet engines, bouncing everything that was thrown at it, that was only good for the 54's driver, sometimes 2 or 3 54s totally ruined the game for the opponent team.;)

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View PostIron_Funeral, on 06 December 2011 - 01:53 PM, said:

The 54 is still a very solid tank...
I believe it will get better in 7.0 as they are increasing the ammo rack's hp pool, and the normalization nerf will make it's armor even better.
If used as a real medium (little scouting/spotting, some flanking, supporting, taking hills first, etc.)

Ammo rack help a lot, i had far too many unlucky one hit deaths in CWs. That indeed is a buff.
Armor buff will on one side help it, but it will help E50/TX heavies as well. And provided our gun is useless due to acc/acc on the move - so we gain survivability, but we get nerfed dmg output even further.
If used like a real medium, you will fail. From my clanmates, Patton is a "real" medium.
T-54 is purely scouting vehicle/rusher to take critical spots before cavalry arrives - you can take the spot, and slow down enemies(and its damn good at it), but by no means can you hold it against anyone with half-brain.

It is useful indeed, but it lack the "wow" factor other mediums have. Patton has incredible gun, E50 has gun/survivability...and we hide in a bush and hope arty hits them.

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View Postmamlas, on 07 December 2011 - 05:15 PM, said:

Ammo rack help a lot, i had far too many unlucky one hit deaths in CWs. That indeed is a buff.
Armor buff will on one side help it, but it will help E50/TX heavies as well. And provided our gun is useless due to acc/acc on the move - so we gain survivability, but we get nerfed dmg output even further.
If used like a real medium, you will fail. From my clanmates, Patton is a "real" medium.
T-54 is purely scouting vehicle/rusher to take critical spots before cavalry arrives - you can take the spot, and slow down enemies(and its damn good at it), but by no means can you hold it against anyone with half-brain.

It is useful indeed, but it lack the "wow" factor other mediums have. Patton has incredible gun, E50 has gun/survivability...and we hide in a bush and hope arty hits them.

While I have no experience with the Patton (and it's gun) I think the D54 is quite accurate on the move (I myself don't bother to shoot while moving with the E-50's 10,5cm), tho I think it could use aiming time reduction (to 2-2,2secs) and +20 dmg, but nothing more, I wouldn't like to see T-54's running the game again (IMHO the D54 is deadly in melee range where you can use your good turning/agility and high ROF, the tank itself excels at this fighting style). E-50 has the same armor as T-54, the latter has better turret front, sides are crap for both but T-54 has a smaller profile and is more agile too. So E-50 has good armor and gun, T-54 has good armor and agility, Patton has agility and crazy good gun for melee fighting. I've read on OL's blog that Т-54 gets 16 armour groups + spaced armor. not sure what this means exactly, but considering that nearly every tank that gets this becomes tougher, it can mean only good.

Edit: http://en.wikipedia....i/Spaced_armour Interesting addition. As I understand it, it'll work similarly to E-100's side skirts (arty splash absorption, etc).

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View PostIron_Funeral, on 07 December 2011 - 08:29 PM, said:

IMHO the D54 is deadly in melee range where you can use your good turning/agility and high ROF, the tank itself excels at this fighting style

The spaced armor could be nice. More hp to rack is a bliss
E50 has in fact better frontal slope(i even took the time to fire 40-ish rounds over few test battles to test it).
What is ridiculous on T-54 is the side/back armor - if you are supposed to fight in close-quarters, but rear armor gets penned even by Pattons/E50s HE shell...

What i mean, T-54 CAN be a somewhat useful close up - but you have to sacrifice all module slots for it. Fun, and tested, fact. If you have only rammer OR vent, and Patton has both vent/rammer he reloads in fact faster than you. And has 70 more dmg :)
But in that outfit, you sacrifice your best ability - spotting.

Last days, im quite happy with vent/optics/binos. You get the most agility, and spot range. Nothing like watching TDs thinking "im safe in mine bush, noone can ever see me before i see him" get insta-poped by arty. Also, not firing help with the horrendous ammo cost:D




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