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purplehayes #1 Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:46 AM

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for godsakes its almost as unbalanced as the amx 1390 when it was a tier 7. it just gets to roll up to any tier 7 tank, take a single shot to the face, maybe half its hp at most, then kill that tank no sweat. yeah absolute [edited] that is.

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purplehayes #2 Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:55 AM

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the way I see it those autoloader tanks with ridiculous firepower should at least have to be slightly concerned that their target may be able to actually kill them back. but no they aren't bothered because no tank at that level has enough alpha to make them not so goddamn arrogantly audacious in taking on bigger tanks that half the time they needn't even bother trying to dodge. I reckon it would be fine if they could kill a tank with one clip as long as that required them to at least be skilled in choosing their moment or evading the cannon. as it is they don't even have to do that to win a duel against a much bigger tank

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purplehayes #3 Posted 29 March 2013 - 05:05 AM

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sure you could just neg me and then chuff off like a douche, or you could maybe say why you disagree, offer some counterpoints, and generally justify that action in some way to make it actually valid to anyone. I don't think negs should be allowed unless you also comment.

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So, what you're saying is that you think the T71 should have no armour, bad mm, and no burst damage to make it worthwhile?

If you're in a tier 7 heavy and a T71 is soloing you then you're doing it wrong.

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View PostMaxTroll, on 29 March 2013 - 05:16 AM, said:

So, what you're saying is that you think the T71 should have no armour, bad mm, and no burst damage to make it worthwhile?

If you're in a tier 7 heavy and a T71 is soloing you then you're doing it wrong.
I know that the t71 is a t7 light, so it gets put in higher tier matches all the time, but that doesnt mean it should be OP as hell when it gets top ranked. its a light tank. IMO the firepower of light tanks should be such that to kill a big boy they have to shoot it LOADS and be dead good at dodging. you cannot say that is true for the t71.
Like a t-50-2 couldn't kill a heavy in 30 sec flat, neither should the t71. its a light and they should fear tanks with big guns, but these ones do not.

Edited by purplehayes, 29 March 2013 - 05:26 AM.


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NO no no!!
Blooming tank is a [edited]!
4 out of every 5 games played in this tank is a tier X match and believe me yer limited to what u can do!!!!
Between surfing the ground and getting 1 shotted the tan is [edited]!!

The only tme i enjoy this tank is the bleek tier 8 match interval`s from the onslaught tiers X matches!
If anything take the scout matchmaking away from it!! :(

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View Postpurplehayes, on 29 March 2013 - 04:46 AM, said:

for godsakes its almost as unbalanced as the amx 1390 when it was a tier 7. it just gets to roll up to any tier 7 tank, take a single shot to the face, maybe half its hp at most, then kill that tank no sweat. yeah absolute bullshit that is.

WTH?

T71 is like AMX13/90 ?
Lets see...

Both tanks are fast and agile, and also both got autoloader.
BUT, T71 got 5 rounds in magazine with ~150dmg each, AMX13/90 got 6 rounds in magazine with 240 dmg each.
Feel difference ?

purplehayes #8 Posted 29 March 2013 - 05:33 AM

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View PostNisu, on 29 March 2013 - 05:30 AM, said:

WTH?

T71 is like AMX13/90 ?
Lets see...

Both tanks are fast and agile, and also both got autoloader.
BUT, T71 got 5 rounds in magazine with ~150dmg each, AMX13/90 got 6 rounds in magazine with 240 dmg each.
Feel difference ?
Yeah I feel the difference, you are correct, french lights are even worse.

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View PostNisu, on 29 March 2013 - 05:30 AM, said:

WTH?T71 is like AMX13/90 ?Lets see...Both tanks are fast and agile, and also both got autoloader.BUT, T71 got 5 rounds in magazine with ~150dmg each, AMX13/90 got 6 rounds in magazine with 240 dmg each.Feel difference ?
T71 is tier 7 tank and AMX 13/90 is tier 8. Feel difference?

purplehayes #10 Posted 29 March 2013 - 05:48 AM

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much of my experience in lights comes from the US m5 stuart and the USSR A-20. for both of these tanks and many other conventional lights you can expect to be a oneshot for most tanks in the field most battles and you need to be pretty damn clever about it to get a kill at all, especially something like a heavy of the same tier or above, despite your maneuverability. It seems to me that the t71 and other autoloading lights don't require players to be either skilled or careful to pop a couple of Tigers, supposedly the most feared tank of WW2, or whatever else. Said autoloading lights which don't even frigging exist except for a blueprint or a wooden model tucked away somewhere, but that's a separate issue.

Edit: give me historical battles then we shall put an end to this bullshit.

Edited by purplehayes, 29 March 2013 - 06:01 AM.


purplehayes #11 Posted 29 March 2013 - 05:50 AM

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View Postpurplehayes, on 29 March 2013 - 04:46 AM, said:

almost as unbalanced as the amx 1390 when it was a tier 7.

View Postm4kk333, on 29 March 2013 - 05:46 AM, said:

T71 is tier 7 tank and AMX 13/90 is tier 8. Feel difference?
learn to read

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View Postpurplehayes, on 29 March 2013 - 05:24 AM, said:

its a light and they should fear tanks with big guns, but these ones do not.
big guns < skill
So guess what a good player feares less.
T71 is fine as it is. If a HT is dumb enuff to split from his allies then he deserves to be rendered silent by a single scout.

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View PostTerran_wrath, on 29 March 2013 - 05:53 AM, said:

big guns < skill
So guess what a good player feares less.
T71 is fine as it is. If a HT is dumb enuff to split from his allies then he deserves to be rendered silent by a single scout.
more than half the time it's not you being dumb in your HT that leaves you alone, it's moron teams all piling into one area of the map (so the smart move being to fill in the gaps), or dying within the first two minutes, or some combination of both, so 'deserves' is pure nonsense.

Edited by purplehayes, 29 March 2013 - 06:06 AM.


Wh1te #14 Posted 29 March 2013 - 06:31 AM

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Uhm...  approx. a week ago i faced a trolling t71 in some heavy tier 7-8 i dont remember which one.
He put me in my graves really fast.
That was the first& last time i encountered a t71 and it was able to leave alive.
Easy kill even with heavies (ok maybe in maus it can dance around you...and in t95...but be honest which tank cant dance around these)
But all in all i think it will be nerfed soon since a lot of players use them and a lot of dont know what to do against them....
I saw heavies that fought back till t71 took their half hp then they just simply went afk and let t71 finish them...a bit nonsense.
It needs some brain and/or experience to kill that sh*t in slow tanks but it is killable with ease. (just as 1390 now&in the past)

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Edited by Wh1te, 29 March 2013 - 06:37 AM.


Gappa #15 Posted 29 March 2013 - 06:56 AM

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T71 is a bugger - easy to destroy, but you're gonna have a bad time if you ignore/can't get a shot at it.

Bigger problem is the fact that a British T7 heavy (Black Prince) has the cca. same gun, just with better Acc but a bit lower Pen. Or the WZ-131 with the top 100 mm gun.

However, that's problem of the Black Prince...that it is undergunned, not of these lights  :teethhappy:

term1x #16 Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:24 AM

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good that WG doesnt listen to the community, otherwise this game would be like = I cant play this tank buff it / I got killed in a heavy by light, nerf the light - you know alone heavy tank deserves to die by light/medium

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View Postpurplehayes, on 29 March 2013 - 06:05 AM, said:

more than half the time it's not you being dumb in your HT that leaves you alone, it's moron teams all piling into one area of the map (so the smart move being to fill in the gaps), or dying within the first two minutes, or some combination of both, so 'deserves' is pure nonsense.
THis is why I wrote: "If a HT is dumb enuff to split from his allies".
If all run away suddenly it's a total different thing...

About the gaps... yes, but if someone doesn't have a fitting tank for a lone stand... it IS dumb.

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Tier 7 tanks have 1100..1450hp, you can't just roll up next to them and do it alone with a ~900 average damage magazine.
You have to single out damaged or weak (lol TDs) ones, and pick them off like a vulture.

If its so OP get one yourself, though if you're a bad player you'll absolutely hate it.

Edited by Heinzi, 29 March 2013 - 07:51 AM.


Souperman #19 Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:56 AM

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Auto-loader tanks are one of the reasons I no longer enjoy the game and play it from time to time just for a few games until run into some auto-loader tank and ruin all my mood of playing the game. The developers should reconsider the balancing of this things, as for instance it's so fun when you drive an E-100 that takes like 16-17 seconds to reload and a pesky T57 has no problem to badly crippling it while you get to fire just once, and if you are that lucky is a zero damage hit or even e ricochet.  :angry:  Oh yeah, this things are so well balanced... :glasses:

To be honest I regret I bought gold for a few times and Type 59, when should have got Starcraft 2 and play on Battle.net. At least they don't screw their players over with changing characteristics of some tank class just cos some people can't stand them. For instance SPG's, that have been nerfed quite a few times and considering how hard was to pile that amount of experience to get them just to get it's income nerfed beyond oblivion, now the HP, and so on.

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there is a big rule before you ask to nerf something .......

PLAY this tank your self.

i found more unbalance the KV1S or other tier 6-7 meds with derp gun and gold ammo.T71 is one of my favorites tanks but is one that cost me so many fire extinguishers...fire and criticals are at every battle not to say for MM as a scout.Tell me how OP is when u have to penetrate E100 or others tier 9 tanks.




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