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Baine #21 Posted 02 January 2011 - 03:06 PM

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View PostHornet331, on 02 January 2011 - 02:48 PM, said:

yeah because the games on the t44 where pre hp increase and post warp fix... and 500 avg is for sure without premium... compared with premium on the 54... appels and oranges...  :Smile_harp:


I just named the T44 as one of the tanks, he had far more tanks, some of which are exactly the same after and before the lastest patch.

Sleazy #22 Posted 02 January 2011 - 03:16 PM

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t-54 is a dogfight tank, nothing wrong with it. it needs a heavy armor to do so, turret armor is still op tho.
cant believe ppl comparing it 1on1 with other tier 9 mediums, those are travelling snipers. keep distance to it and fine.
i have no probs with my m26 as long i dont let him come too close.
certain tanks fullfill certain roles. i like it .

and if u talk bout its advantages all the times look at its hp, its aiming time and its dps.^^

Hornet331 #23 Posted 02 January 2011 - 03:36 PM

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View PostBaine, on 02 January 2011 - 03:06 PM, said:

I just named the T44 as one of the tanks, he had far more tanks, some of which are exactly the same after and before the lastest patch.

Again avarage xp is quite meaningless... if i jump right into a high tire tank (t8+) and can get all my upgrades with free xp your avarage xp will be higher then from a tank where you have to grind everything. So it happend with my own T54, i got everything exept D54 gun form the beginning.

If you play any tank fully upgraded form the beginn its far mre effective then when you have to grind a tank. And when he got 500 battels with t44 im sure he had more then enough xp and free xp to fight as elite from battle 1.

This has nothing to with T54 alone, a fully upgraded Vk from the first battel also rocks, same with a elite is4.

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View PostHornet331, on 02 January 2011 - 03:36 PM, said:

Again avarage xp is quite meaningless... if i jump right into a high tire tank (t8+) and can get all my upgrades with free xp your avarage xp will be higher then from a tank where you have to grind everything. So it happend with my own T54, i got everything exept D54 gun form the beginning.

If you play any tank fully upgraded form the beginn its far mre effective then when you have to grind a tank. And when he got 500 battels with t44 im sure he had more then enough xp and free xp to fight as elite from battle 1.

This has nothing to with T54 alone, a fully upgraded Vk from the first battel also rocks, same with a elite is4.


i doubt any1 is srsly judging any tank on stock version. to evaluate/compare it, it needs to be fully upgraded to have a final say.

Sue #25 Posted 02 January 2011 - 04:00 PM

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I have played 30 battles or so with my T54 and IMHO it is not OP like everyone says. I enjoy it, but TBH I kind of miss my T44 due to the matches I am placed in. I do bounce a fair amount of shells, but most of them are because of autoaimers. People who actually aim do a lot of damage to me. The hull armor is very penetrable by T8+ tanks, and if I happen to survive the match my hull looks like Swiss cheese. TBH I really thought it was going to be OP when I bought it, but after playing with it for a while I do not think it is. Check my stats. They are barely better than my T44 stats, plus my win percent is on 52% atm. Just my $0.02.  :Smile-hiding:

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interesting read, and well done.  After reading all your battles I tried think of what would happen to me if I did the same thing in my Pershing...bounce anything let alone a Ferdy...LOL.

I think you should try a Pershing or Panther II to all the rest of you that think the T-54 isnt overpowered.  In my fully upgraded Pershing in 1 vs 1 match with a T-54 I know I am going to lose hands down.  It is faster, smaller, more manuverable, better armor and shoots faster.  I know that 2-3 shots out of 5 will bounce or miss and only 1 out of 5 of his will miss as ALL his shots will damage me.  However I find I have a 50/50 chance vs a Panther II.

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IF you start at stock, crews 50%, and grind until elite, without premium the average exp stats will  be more valuable then someone who have just enough gold or whatever to elite the tank with 100% experience crews and have premium.

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Wait.....pay attention     the T54  is overpowered!!! Duh, at this point it is the only main battle tank in the game. They are not invulnerable but are damned hard to kill and really scary to run into especially because the hot T44 drivers we all hated are the first to get them. I had my 1st encounter close up on Ensk in the number II spawn, two M41 arty,one VK3601 and three Easy 8 Sherman's all with highest guns set up in the open field. We are rewarded for our patience by 3 T44's and a T54 who come cutting in like barracuda on us. The T54 driver got a little carried away and got tucked in the map corner  while we pounded him to scrap. The high rate of fire of the Easy 8 plus a little outside fire from our team killed all the enemy tanks.......we were all dead as well, I was very impressed we had managed to "defeat" such a tough,fast force ( their last was finished with one shot from a "rescue" tank).I think the arty as the primary target for OPFOR is all that let us survive long enough to cut them to one tank. Also concentrating most of our fire on the T54.

Paavopesusieni #29 Posted 02 January 2011 - 04:32 PM

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This guy should go and try out all the other tier 9 mediums...

Really T-54 ain't OP because someone can sometimes penetrate you?

Those T-54 drives must have felt god like and rushed to their deaths or were just otherwise bad and the opponents were really good.

panzergulo #30 Posted 02 January 2011 - 04:50 PM

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I have seen T-54s surviving in impossible situations. But I have also seen them dying in the most stupidest ways. Often they are the first tanks to go down. It's rather hilarious, as I'm driving a T-44 currently, and because I know the speed of my medium doesn't mean anything, I mostly hide and support my team's heavies from cover... and even while my team has T-54s, I am often the last medium tank driver alive in the end of the battle.

So yeah... T-54 can be very good if the driver is experienced and lucky. But still, I wouldn't say it's OP.

At least people don't hate T-44 as much anymore.

Keep it up, and keep tanking.

Baine #31 Posted 02 January 2011 - 06:36 PM

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In my Pershing i have to rely on the T54 driver to make a mistake or else im dead. I can bounce shots on him, even if i only aim for the weakest spots. A pershing will bounce 1/100 shots. Everything can penetrate me, fighting a Vk3001 will cost me half my HP.

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so why Americans didn't made Pershing with sloped armor like T-54?

Kona #33 Posted 02 January 2011 - 07:35 PM

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Pershing was designed early 1940's did not have the lessons of WWII to build off of.

grdja #34 Posted 02 January 2011 - 08:00 PM

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I'll say once again that T-54 has least HP and DPM of all T9 meds.

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People seem to think the T-54 should not compare to an IS-4, VK4502, or T34.

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View PostNazgutek, on 02 January 2011 - 08:04 PM, said:

People seem to think the T-54 should not compare to an IS-4, VK4502, or T34.
And that becuase it's a 'medium' this suddenly means it's less durable and should have no armor because it trades it for 'speed'

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View PostKona, on 02 January 2011 - 07:35 PM, said:

Pershing was designed early 1940's did not have the lessons of WWII to build off of.
well T-54 also designed in that period (first were produced in 1946. so they must be designed before that year).

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Well...
I don't have a 105 mm in my Panther II, so I can't really say anything about its performance. But it's sufficient to say, that if I even notice a T-54 in the distance, I feel like I'm going to burn, and burn quickly - it doesn't even need to come close. I don't believe I've ever penetrated it from the front with the 88/71, and most T-54 I've encountered seem well aware of that fact, so they usually just go with a static shootout, facing me frontally. The thing is - I can't bounce any of their shots (well, perhaps if they hit the turret). Flanking you say? Impossible. If I even try it, the T-54 driver will simply adjust. And usually he gets a couple of shots free, while I try to relocate.
Hell, a T-54 even bounced a shot in the rear, although I was firing on the move, so it's pretty likely that I hit the turret.
Shooting at so-called weak spots is borderline impossible taking into account both tank's small size and gun dispersion. And getting shot at while aiming certainly doesn't help. I've actually found IS-4 easier to hit from the front (I'm talking about the long 88), due to its weak spots being significantly larger. It somewhat negates the whole "Panther II is a long range sniper" thing.
So to sum it up - until I get the 10.5 cm I believe, I can't fight it even while holding tactical advantage, I can't run from it, the only thing I can do against it is hide until it's dead.
Don't get me wrong - up until now I was pretty reluctant to get on the "Russian OP tanks" bandwagon, but currently I don't know what to think.

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View PostNazgutek, on 02 January 2011 - 08:04 PM, said:

People seem to think the T-54 should not compare to an IS-4, VK4502, or T34.

People seem to forget that Panther II and Pershing cant be compared to those tanks.


Its not T-54 is OP when compared to other heavies, but when to compared to other Tier 9 mediums that CANT DO SHIT ABOUT IT. Its the best of T9 mediums by a longshot.


And the DPM, come on, what is this? wow? are we fighting some kind of boss here?. DPM doesnt matter when you cant penetrate your target. Panther II and Pershing need to do magic to penetrate the T-54, T-54 can just autoaim and fire away.

"so why Americans didn't made Pershing with sloped armor like T-54?"

Because americans and germans cared about their crews being confortable to fight and did not require them to be midgets.

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so then don't complain for T-54 armor. u get comfortable in your tank, someone is in T-54




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