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HUN_Sector #1 Posted 13 May 2013 - 12:21 PM

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Well now guys, I have found this info on Silentstalker's blog.
E-25 (jagdpanzer IV mod) Posted Image

Tier: 7
MM balance weight: 27
HP: 830
Hull armor: 50/30/30
Turret armor: 0/16/16
Speed limit: 65/20
Penetration: 198/244/38
Damage: 135/135/175
Rate of fire: 18.75
Accuracy: 0.31
Aim time: 1.5
View range: 360
Signalrange: 710
Weight: 26 025
Price: 3 200 Gold

It won't be a beast, except in professional hands (thanks to it's rof)

WoTDaFoCh #2 Posted 13 May 2013 - 12:23 PM

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Il have one just for its looks :glasses:

Kiril1512 #3 Posted 13 May 2013 - 12:30 PM

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Stokkolm #4 Posted 13 May 2013 - 12:38 PM

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It's a bit weird, the gun says it's 7,5cm L/70, but the penetration is the one from 7,5cm L/100.

Anyway, looks like a beast of a tank.

Gizmoduck #5 Posted 13 May 2013 - 12:43 PM

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I'd like one please WG

Cpt_Blue #6 Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:06 PM

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I was hoping WG would have added the E25 when the E50/E75/E100 was added. I can always hope right. Cheers.

builder396 #7 Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:22 PM

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Okay, this thing really reminds me of the JgPz IV.

It has the same gun. (I assume the penetration is incorrectly stated and actually is the same as the normal L/70)
It is roughly the same size.
It has less armor.
It has more mobility.
It has superior view and (far superior) signal range.
It is one tier higher.

WTF? this thing is free XP rolling around the battlefield! This thing has no business in tier 7 battles! Even at tier 6 this thing would be borderline obsolete, just as the Jagdpanzer IV is. I had it until a while ago, and yes, it is that crap. Now taking the same tank with less armor and more speed and even putting it up a tier borders an insult to the german tank tree, but since it is already pretty crap anyway its hard to still insult it even more.

Stokkolm #8 Posted 13 May 2013 - 04:14 PM

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View Postbuilder396, on 13 May 2013 - 01:22 PM, said:

It has the same gun. (I assume the penetration is incorrectly stated and actually is the same as the normal L/70)

Why assume it's the L/70? Why not assume it's the 2cm/L55 from light tractor?

Omg 2cm/L55 on tier 7 TD! Wargaming what are you thinking releasing tanks like that!

MkH #9 Posted 14 May 2013 - 02:02 AM

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View Postbuilder396, on 13 May 2013 - 01:22 PM, said:

Okay, this thing really reminds me of the JgPz IV.

It has the same gun. (I assume the penetration is incorrectly stated and actually is the same as the normal L/70)
It is roughly the same size.
It has less armor.
It has more mobility.
It has superior view and (far superior) signal range.
It is one tier higher.

WTF? this thing is free XP rolling around the battlefield! This thing has no business in tier 7 battles! Even at tier 6 this thing would be borderline obsolete, just as the Jagdpanzer IV is. I had it until a while ago, and yes, it is that crap. Now taking the same tank with less armor and more speed and even putting it up a tier borders an insult to the german tank tree, but since it is already pretty crap anyway its hard to still insult it even more.

Maybe it uses APCR as default ammo, and hence has better penetration. RoF is nealy 19 shots per minute, so that's pretty good too. I'd also imagine it has one of the best camo values in the game. Give it a solid gun depression value, and it should be a pretty nice package.

MTWEmperor #10 Posted 14 May 2013 - 03:06 AM

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I'm not sure if I'd want one as 135 dmg is good at T5/6 but it's not good at T7.  That was one of the problems with the Panther imo.

Baske_74 #11 Posted 14 May 2013 - 03:59 PM

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not much to go on if the angles are not stated, but it looks like 60 degrees of vertical. but this should be a very small vehicle with low profile and excellent camo values. combined with the gun stats, its basically a very mobile sniper. short aimtime with highrate of fire. but the damage is just to low 135 @ T7 while all others have 240 or 320 damage. up the damage to at least konisch levels, while keeping the RoF. it will need a large Ammostock as to not run out after the fist engagement.

its armor and weapon suggest T6, while the Hp indeed suggest T7. only 20 Hp less then JP.

Snailsaviour #12 Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:33 PM

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I want this one so badly! a scout/TD hybrid! the gun is just so epic!! ill bet this is going to be a troll tank!
and it looks awesome! want the E10 as well!
Cant wait!!

Boomer7 #13 Posted 21 May 2013 - 03:40 PM

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Looks like the bigger brother of a Hetzer (The Superhetzer ;D).

Have to agree with that stats its underpowered for Tier VII.

More something like a Tier V.

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It's the first premium tank where WG deliberately bent history.
The gun is the standard 75mm L/70 with the L/100 stats used on it, welcome to cash grab 101.

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View PostBoomer7, on 21 May 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

Looks like the bigger brother of a Hetzer (The Superhetzer ;D).

Have to agree with that stats its underpowered for Tier VII.

More something like a Tier V.

Tier 5? now that's just ridiculous.

Stug can hold it's own in tier 7 matches, it can pen most of tier 7's tanks, the only tanks i found difficult to pen was the T29 and Churchill Black Prince, and that was with the 150mm of penetration of the L70.

E25 with 193mm pen and current stats it's ok in tier 7 as long as it gets special matchmaking and wont get in tier 9 matches.
193mm pen and 135dmg wont do too much against E-75's and St-1's

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For The Record are saying it's going to be just the 150-pen L/70 stats - which will make this TD useless at tier 7. Look at what the SU-122-44 gets, then look at this with the pitiful-at-tier-7 L/70...what a joke. Anti-German bias demonstrated yet again.

And I was going to buy one, too :(

NefertumCz #17 Posted 02 June 2013 - 04:12 PM

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Ive just saw this one on test sever and its T7 and died rather quickly....

Westonbirt #18 Posted 02 June 2013 - 09:40 PM

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Basically, it's an ELC with an autoloader. It is fast, swift, small... looked and performed interesting. I saw 5 just today, killed 2.

Stokkolm #19 Posted 03 June 2013 - 06:59 AM

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Well, 198pen with that rate of fire on a very small and mobile platform was a bit too much for a premium. I wouldn't hurry to compare it with SU-122-44.

Baske_74 #20 Posted 03 June 2013 - 03:53 PM

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saw a post on FTR that the penetartion and damage will be of the 75L70 that we all know from tiers past.
the RoF will be buffed to around 20.

copy past:

Crew: 4
Tier: 7
MM weight: 32,4 (27)
Hitpoints: 830
Armor: 50/30/30
Speed: 65/20
Engine: 700hp Maybach HL230 TRM P30
Penetration: 150/194/38 (198/244/38) - massive nerf
Damage: 135/135/175
ROF: 20 (18,75) - buff
Accuracy: 0,3 (0,31) - slight buff
Aim time: 1,5
Gun traverse: 12 degrees to each side
Gun elevation: -8, +15
Ammo capacity: 60
View range: 360
Radio range: 710
Weight: 25,2t (26,025t) - a buff

these are all the stats between brackets are old values. the penetration values stated are for 75L100 is guess.
so basically it 1t lighter, get a higher MM value, RoF increased, and even better accuracy.

Edited by Baske_74, 03 June 2013 - 03:56 PM.