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Tasiorowski #61 Posted 05 December 2013 - 12:58 PM

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Just bought Lorry couple of days ago. Since everyone whines about it, I was a bit "sceptic" and didnt demand anything from this tank. As I just cant imagine 90 mm gun on this thing, I just free-exped the gun and tracks. After couple of battles I can only say, that his thing is realy cool. It has its obvious drawbacks, but This gun is realy realy good. It pens almost everything, thare are no safe E100s and IS7s, fully aimed gun is very accurate, the shel has very nice velocity, the burst damage is good enough to cripple anyone, just 3-4 well placed shots and oponent is -1000 HP. I trained camouflage and BiA + sixth sense. I think training camo on it is essential, as it makes this tank just a normal medium, because without it, it shines like a christmass tree, and even blind russian TDs will spot you after shot from their vierange borderline. By now, it is very enjoyable tank for me, and being not maxed yet, its damage per battle is closing to my WZ120, so it cant be that bad as many people advertise

killswitch99 #62 Posted 05 December 2013 - 05:54 PM

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Is not the point of med to be mobile and be able to flank. All i can say what is the point of this tank it cannot do either. Playing this tank is like banging your head against a wall then doing it over and over. How much fun is that

radd666 #63 Posted 06 December 2013 - 12:30 PM

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This required neg rep. Sorry. You keep banging, others will keep playing, having fun, some will have fun while owning. It is a great tonk and needs ''passion''. Banging ur head against a wall is not going to help you play it better. Read this topic trough, you missed all the good advice and insight. If it hurts so much, free XP it. Surely you can afford it, if not, forget about that part. :) No offense, honestly.

Temptis #64 Posted 06 December 2013 - 12:51 PM

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View Postkillswitch99, on 05 December 2013 - 05:54 PM, said:

Is not the point of med to be mobile and be able to flank. All i can say what is the point of this tank it cannot do either. Playing this tank is like banging your head against a wall then doing it over and over. How much fun is that

maybe go and watch some replays to see how it's done?

radd666 #65 Posted 06 December 2013 - 02:45 PM

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View PostTemptis, on 06 December 2013 - 12:51 PM, said:

maybe go and watch some replays to see how it's done?

I thought there was no need to mention that...since everyone is supposed to know about Youtube's might and knowledge base. Looks like I've thought wrong.

Eokokok #66 Posted 06 December 2013 - 03:02 PM

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90% of players do not try to improve so how would they know anything ;)

Stewe_CZ #67 Posted 22 December 2013 - 10:24 AM

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Lorraine 40t - more than 6000 dmg - 

I don't think so that is so bad tank ;)


Edited by Stewe_CZ, 22 December 2013 - 10:25 AM.


Rommelaris #68 Posted 31 December 2013 - 03:32 PM

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Love the Lorraine! Only 60 battles but it's a blast.

 

Sure it has obvious weakpoints, but it also has extreme firepower and mobility. A good game is far more rewarding then in most other tanks.



BluevRS #69 Posted 13 January 2014 - 02:03 AM

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I'm starting to quite like mine. Prefer it to the American T54E1 which was just too sluggish for me. Lorry actually moves by comparison.

Target1337 #70 Posted 14 January 2014 - 03:08 PM

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Even though its ironic that i have Lorraine as my prof. pic xd But anywho... Lorraine doesnt just suck, its depressing... It doesnt matter how much you deal damage, u are still going to loose alot and i mean ALOT money... lets say you get 50 k from 1 game ( wich is not gonna happend ) and... u get like... - 10 k credits... Makes you wanna play more... Only positive about this '' tank '' is its gun... 6 shells 300+ dmg! NICE! But... it aims super long without modules ( and with them .-. (( WG --> :trollface: )) ) And... i dont even know the purpose of this tank in the battlefield!? If you attack you get spotted from miles away and u will get killed, and if you just stay in base... some light tank is gonna spot you and arty will kill you right away...! I absolutely hate Lorraine 40t its utter garbage! I really REALLY hope that B-chat is worth this living nightmare...

Qerewen #71 Posted 24 January 2014 - 08:58 PM

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i find the lorraine sorely inferior to the T54E1

speed lorraine

mobility Lorraine

size t54

camo t54

Armor T54

ROF t54

aim 54 but only bearly 0.1 sec

DMG 54

Reload 54

 

this is comparing their visible stats. it is pretty obvious that its a victim of powercreep


Edited by Qerewen, 24 January 2014 - 08:59 PM.


siramra #72 Posted 24 January 2014 - 09:29 PM

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Well there is a reason french tanks and TDs get targeted by arty.....oneshot kills. I don`t know how many I have oneshoted or nearly oneshoted....but it`s a few by now. The reason is simple: big [edited]targets and no armour (TDs have no sidearmour).

But I stopped halfway on my 13 90 grind simply because I didn`t want to play the lorr as tier 9 med. When it was a tier 8 it was much much better. I moved to the 50 120 and 50B. Have loads of fun in them. I simply play as a b**ch and use the team.

 

 



Umbarion #73 Posted 25 January 2014 - 04:13 AM

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i dont think the lorraine performs as bad as many players believe!

ofc its huge.... ofc its armor is really weak... but being able to deal over 1.5k damage within a couple of seconds, this tanks shows its strenghts!

stay back in the beginning, try to take some medium/long distance shots and take out enemy scouts, then rush into the enemies gaps of defence and get BEHIND the enemy tanks! so either you will be able to penetrate your whole clip into them, or your enemies will try to shoot you and open their side armours to your teammates, while you get lots and lots of spotting damage!

 

though you might say, you need a good team for sth alike, i have dealt dozens of time above 4k damage whilst killing lots of enemy tanks!

the most important thing when going with your lorraine is finding the perfect moment to rush into your enemies and distract them....

when you figure that out, its strenths will compensate its weaknesses fully and you will have an awesome game!



troolie #74 Posted 25 January 2014 - 07:45 PM

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Just got my ace tanker badge with 7.2K damages and 4 kills. It sure doesn't feel like superman clobbering kindergartners but I don't mind grinding the remaining 185K XP in it. Like all French tanks, it's essential to land in a team that does its job otherwise there's nothing you can do. Also, using all the dirty tricks to track an enemy in a position where they can't shot back and knowing when to run away execute a tactical retreat.



radius77 #75 Posted 31 January 2014 - 03:53 PM

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I am approaching Lorr and I can't understand so much complains about a tank that can unload 1800dmg within 15 sec.

It doesn't have armour ? Well, who relies on armour in MT in tier 9-10 battles ??? WTE100 loaded with APCR (as they use to) will finish you either way if it's Lorr or T-54 or M46. It's a pure hit-n-run tank, not a front line brawler.  



olukej #76 Posted 31 January 2014 - 04:23 PM

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View Postradius77, on 31 January 2014 - 03:53 PM, said:

I am approaching Lorr and I can't understand so much complains about a tank that can unload 1800dmg within 15 sec.

It doesn't have armour ? Well, who relies on armour in MT in tier 9-10 battles ??? WTE100 loaded with APCR (as they use to) will finish you either way if it's Lorr or T-54 or M46. It's a pure hit-n-run tank, not a front line brawler.  

 

It doesn't unload 1800 damage within 15 seconds. The accuracy and aiming time aren't good enough, you'll need to wait 4+ seconds before firing the first shot and the accuracy loss between shots means that you have to wait even after you're reloaded if you want to reliably go through tier 9 armor. if you don't, you'll either miss or bounce on some piece of spaced armor. And though the max accuracy isn't bad, it's not great either. You will miss a lot if youre fighting at med to long range. Which you have to do since you can't take any forward and strong position due to the total lack of armor, gun depression and the huge size of the tank.

Lorraine works when the team is half decent and can draw some attention away from you. But if they let any light tank through or die a little too fast there's no way you can carry with the terrible survivability and the low reliability of the gun. 



Syllom #77 Posted 31 January 2014 - 05:51 PM

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The gun is very good,and it is very accurate,the prob with lorr is everything else,but now it should be better with the arty nerf and the recent buffs.

CrnoBijeliTelevizorUBoji #78 Posted 02 February 2014 - 12:40 PM

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Its an awesome tank when played right. It can be a little frustrating when arty destroys you with just one shot, but thats your fault for not hiding and using sixth sense.

my lorraine game from today: http://wotreplays.com/site/581099#

You just have to find a good place in every map, watch the minimap and when you can see all enemy players, find a hole in their line of defense and attack.



indipuk #79 Posted 02 February 2014 - 08:39 PM

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View Postradius77, on 31 January 2014 - 04:53 PM, said:

It doesn't have armour ? Well, who relies on armour in MT in tier 9-10 battles ??? 

 

Just had game where tomato e100 penned my lor with HE for 1k dmg. He would have never done that to t54 for example. And yes t54 has armor it can rely on in t10 battle. T54 has better survivability than some of t9-10 heavy tanks.


Edited by indipuk, 02 February 2014 - 08:42 PM.


GWYNBLADE_ #80 Posted 03 February 2014 - 02:03 PM

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Yesterday I farmed 87k exp with lor:playing:, and very often I had good game in it, just keep playing and you will have it too. Give it a try :blinky:




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