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Sharpasaspoon #1 Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:17 AM

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I have a T-44 elite grinding for silver for T-54, still a lot to go.  I love the T-44, I enjoy the gameplay and the teir MM and I'm not sure if I should sell it to get the T-54.  I'm worries it will not be as much fun to play and it will get mashed by the MM.  You really don't see as many as you used to.  Is that because they are all sold to get a T-62?

I have around 25 tanks in the garage from tier II to X so I'm not bothered about getting to the top of the tree just for the sake of it, been there, done that, it's more the game I enjoy.

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killz0n #2 Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:19 AM

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I only played the T-43 ... IDK which MM the T-54 has or if its fun 2 play...

lewisunderwood #3 Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:29 AM

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T-44 and T-54 are both nice tanks. T-54 is in my opinion the best Tier IX Medium.

T-54 s*cks a bit when you play it stock (but basically any Tier IX medium is hard to play when stock), but it will be awesome when Elited.

ZecvonZecstein #4 Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:30 AM

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When elited it's awesome

Never gonna sell it

tomogaso #5 Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:34 AM

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I bought my T-44 and played 1 battle (bought it 3 weeks ago), it's just awful stock, I don't even want to bother.

But I want my T-54 badly...

Carantanien #6 Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:49 AM

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T-54 has some armor compared to T-44
And if you are rich, HEAT feel's like cheat.  :trollface:

Edited by Carantanien, 24 May 2013 - 05:27 PM.


ZecvonZecstein #7 Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:51 AM

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upgraded T44 is nice, not great mind you, but nice
dont expect a bouncy turret though and dont go for the 122mm gun

Darkherring #8 Posted 23 May 2013 - 10:57 AM

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In my opinion T-54 is truly worth a grind(which is quite fun in T-44). I really love my T-54. It's very agile, armor has no problems with 200mm pen guns(turret even more).

Gun is quite specific- I mean  D-10T2S(I think it's best for T-54). It has very good accuracy, aim time and reload time. It lacks alpha a bit, but thanks to T-54's agility it's not a big problem. The only drawback of this gun is penetration. It's worst among T9 mediums. It forces you to flank your enemies, but hey- after all it's what mediums should do anyway, so just do your job and let the kill count rise :)
Gameplay in T-44 and T-54 is a little bit different. In T-54 you can rely on your armor, and be more aggresive.
I kept my T-44, because it's also extremely fun, and I would advice you also to keep it, because you are going to miss it :)

Khitan #9 Posted 24 May 2013 - 09:22 AM

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Worth it? Best tier 9 tank imho. Elited it is a beast. Optics and lots of camo skill turn you into an ace scout at high tier and with a gun to damage fat heavies with.
Kept mine even though I have the Leo and 62a. It is the best tank to play and yes premium ammo is cheating on this tank but.....oh what fun:-)

So bear with the grind - you will not regret it. And the 62a is just an over powered beast

markysam #10 Posted 25 May 2013 - 09:46 AM

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Well to provide a little balance... I haven't enjoyed playing my T-54 for a while now... I'm quite prepared to believe that it's me more than the tank (it's fully pimped with 100% crew ), but it just doesn't seem to suit me. For sure, once in a while I have a great game, but I find myself often over matched against large numbers of tier X heavies. The maps don't really suit scouting in a medium in top tier matches. View ranges on the opponents are too long and guns too high in damage. Arty is also the bane of my life since at this level it only takes one shot to ruin your day.

A good game in it is TOTALLY dependent on your team. If you have one that works well together it's still beautiful, but as we all know, that's rare these days and most Tier X matches are camp / slugfest in public games.

I'd say that when you get it, don't believe the hype... you will get damaged more than you bounce... play to it's strengths, you're very mobile, so make a good "fire brigade" able to cover large distances and get round the map to reinforce when needed... spotting is possible, but you aren't a scout and WILL be spotted all the time. Take 6th sense... I didn't and am still paying for it. I'm using a crew that came all the way through my medium line and didn't know enough to pick it originally.

It can be a fun tank, but be prepared for a lot of frustration. Critical hits will often remove your advantages... ammo rack, tracks etc... will make you a slow, vulnerable target.

After all that though, I still love it, and am slowly grinding to the T-62a, if only to give me more of a chance in tier X battles...

Good luck !

panzerdav #11 Posted 25 May 2013 - 10:54 AM

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Definitely!!!

I love the T54

Great mobility
Can bounce well if angled correctly

Does have poor gun (tier 7) until you unlock the tier 9 guns
Can be tracked easily too which is annoying.

Overall best tier 9!

Platypusbill #12 Posted 25 May 2013 - 06:01 PM

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T-54 is IMO one of the best tier IX meds with standard ammo, with large quantities of HEAT it's laughably OP (because it's supposed to be great platform with a weak gun- and the D-10T2S with gold ammo is good to excellent in everything other than alpha damage once you replace a lack of penetration with the ability to autoaim E-75s  :trollface: ).

SIRJ4MES #13 Posted 27 May 2013 - 09:41 AM

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I have elited my T-54 and it is totally worth the grind.  Best tank in the game.
You can do everything in it. Snipe, support, scout and brawl. With some HEAT shells loaded you also can penetrate the big heavies in the front.

When you are top tier you can be a spearhead for your team. Break through flanks fast and do a lot of damage.
I high tier battles you are a excellent scout and support tank.  I am working on camo skill x 4 now.  Look forward to 100% camo skill.

I just stop at T-54. Dont wanna rush to T-62A.
I have a good crew on T-54 and it stays there :)

Edited by bobleplast, 27 May 2013 - 09:45 AM.


Sharpasaspoon #14 Posted 27 May 2013 - 11:01 PM

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Excellent advice.  Thanks guys.

Wombut #15 Posted 28 May 2013 - 07:27 AM

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In 8.6 there will be some things to affect our loved T-54.

I belive we get some model reworking, mostly cosmetic(?), anyway, cool, i hope.

HEAT ammo nerf, ok, not that cool, cant really say more about this till more info is released and some testing on new HEAT ammos. Ok, overall i like nerfing of premium ammo eaven tho i tend to use em (with credits) but with our T-54, i find the need to use em cos our gun aint as good as some other tier 9 mediums.

Upcoming changes to shot dispersion, aiming. I think i will start to use the old gun with 20 more pen, cos the accurazy of a gun wont be so important after 8.6. Sure the new gun still has RoF and aim advantage, but combined with the HEAT nerf, i think the value of 20 more average pen will increase.

jukmattu #16 Posted 28 May 2013 - 09:30 AM

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stock version is very poor but when you upgrade, it will come very good.

Guns:
If you are up in the foodchain d-10 gun is really good. If maps are open, thats even better, more like sniping gun.Fast aim and accurate. But if you have to penetrate enemys front, have to use heat when there are opponents like is3, e75, even e50 because of its slope. Normal ap bouches a lot. Sometimes its annoying to chance between heat and ap. If there is another t-54, is3, e50, e75 waiting right after next corner you have to chance ammo and wate about 6 secons. In game situations its not allways possible to hit sides.This is expensive gun to use, you lose money. Tier 9 and 10 matches had to use heat very much.

d-54 18mm better pen, sounds like allmoust nothing but differece is quite big. You can pen all tier 9 meds front and for example m103. Slow aiming time and not so accurate. If you brawl, accuracy doesnt mean so much. More reliable if you like to play frontline and go towards enemy. When played street maps its good when enemy are close.

Had to remember that t-54 job is make holes enemys lines, and then good pen is important.

I use both guns.

jukmattu #17 Posted 28 May 2013 - 09:35 AM

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......and reload time. If using vent, crew 100%, d-54 is 0,32 seconds slower. Played t-54 about 800 matches, all random.

Tubbeh #18 Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:22 AM

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T-54 probably the best T9 medium around and if you manage to have good amount of credits and premium account, feel free to use the other gun with gold ammo, which changes this tank superior in every way except having no gun deppression. I don't have this tank but my brother have it.

Though I love my E-50  :smile:

Darkherring #19 Posted 30 May 2013 - 10:04 AM

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yep, for sure it's still worth it. :)

http://wotreplays.com/site/211713

Wombut #20 Posted 31 May 2013 - 07:29 AM

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So anyone from the 8.6 test server?

What are the cost of AP and HEAT shells now? (Old AP 1230 old HEAT 10gold)
How about penetration now? (old AP 201-219 and HEAT 350)
Did you notice the mentioned graphical improvements?
Did you notice alot more bouncing shots cos of the nerfs to the ammo?




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