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Pikachu_Trainer #1 Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:09 PM

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The Object 430 and 430U were prototype vehicles that formed the basis for the T-64 Main Battle Tank. The Object 430 used a 100mm D-10TS with 120mm of armor, but proved to have performed at the same level as the T-55 Main Battle Tank. The Object 430U carried a 122mm gun with 160mm of armor, proving that a heavy weapon and armor could be fitted to a Medium Tank chassis.

Object 430
Type: Medium
Tier: IX
Gun: All guns from the T-54
Armor
Hull: 120/100/80
Turret: 120/120/100
Hit Points: 1650

Object 430U
Type: Medium Tank
Tier: X
Gun: 122mm M-62-T2
Damage: 440/440/530
Penetration: 268/400/68
Rate of Fire: 4.88
Armor:
Hull: 160/100/80
Turret: 160/130/130
Hit Points: 1950
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Edited by Pichu_Trainer, 03 June 2013 - 12:48 PM.


nielsje #2 Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:11 PM

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Want!

jetpack5 #3 Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:11 PM

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"the russian version of the super pershing, with another gun ...
well, if you really want to.."

edit: yeah and now change it for a TX tank- so its not a russian super pershing ... silly
edit2: now you changed details of this tank 3 times ! please decide what you are here presenting

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toniblaz1 #4 Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:16 PM

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160 mm high sloped armor on Tier8 "medium" tank?
It will never happen  :facepalm:

Pikachu_Trainer #5 Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:17 PM

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View Posttoniblaz1, on 03 June 2013 - 12:16 PM, said:

160 mm high sloped armor on Tier8 "medium" tank?
It will never happen  :facepalm:
Maybe, maybe not  :glasses:

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View Posttoniblaz1, on 03 June 2013 - 12:16 PM, said:

160 mm high sloped armor on Tier8 "medium" tank?
It will never happen  :facepalm:

It's a russian premium tank, so I don't know. We will see what WG says, if they ever check this thread...

Frenzier #7 Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:24 PM

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This will never be implemented, and incase it is.. wich it wont, it would be tier 10.

Betsku #8 Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:32 PM

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We already have "this" Just look at the Chinese tier 10 medium its almost the same (i know its not THE same but still.. almost D:)

Pikachu_Trainer #9 Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:33 PM

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View PostBetsku, on 03 June 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

We already have "this" Just look at the Chinese tier 10 medium its almost the same (i know its not THE same but still.. almost D:)
IT is? I didn't know what model this tank used for the gun :P, so it's hard to tell, I modify the post

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I guess the gun might be the M-62 known fron the IS-8, so it won't be implemented as a T8 medium.

However it might be a good choice as the top tier medium of the second russian medium line which is already planned.
Also this would make sense, because this line would start from the KV-13 and so would feature thick (frontal) armor which this vehicle has.

WG_pls_fixMM_and_OPs_thx #11 Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:33 PM

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l have enough of new shiny OP tanks.

Pikachu_Trainer #12 Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:35 PM

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View PostDr_Lagger, on 03 June 2013 - 12:33 PM, said:

I guess the gun might be the M-62 known fron the IS-8, so it won't be implemented as a T8 medium.

However it might be a good choice as the top tier medium of the second russian medium line which is already planned.
Also this would make sense, because this line would start from the KV-13 and so would feature thick (frontal) armor which this vehicle has.
OK, I'll add the M-62 to the main post, but I still won't know what gun it used exactly :great:

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See you edited it to tier X... well i kinda suggest some 1950 hitpoints then :P not 1450

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View PostR4F431, on 03 June 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

See you edited it to tier X... well i kinda suggest some 1950 hitpoints then :P not 1450
Oops. my bad  :sceptic:

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However, responding to many posts, WG ONCE said they will implement TIER 10 PREMIUM VEHICLES.
I know pichu, you want the source, but I can't remember anything, they said it a month ago or so (in 8.4 times).

Well tier 10 prems would be the end of this game. Imagine 13-year old buying one, plays, and thinks this is an all vs. all game. I once saw this happening, a father let his child play. He was blue ingame for about 3 days  :trollface: . source: a friend told me that (TS3) and showed me a replay. It was horrible. A pure nightmare.  :ohmy:

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View PostXP1500Monster, on 03 June 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

However, responding to many posts, WG ONCE said they will implement TIER 10 PREMIUM VEHICLES.
I know pichu, you want the source, but I can't remember anything, they said it a month ago or so (in 8.4 times).

Well tier 10 prems would be the end of this game. Imagine 13-year old buying one, plays, and thinks this is an all vs. all game. I once saw this happening, a father let his child play. He was blue ingame for about 3 days  :trollface: . source: a friend told me that (TS3) and showed me a replay. It was horrible. A pure nightmare.  :ohmy:
Those were special Premium Vehicles which can't be bought in the game store, these won't be Premiums

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There are a few reasons why this will never happen. One of which is that WG stated that they wanted to go as far with tanks as they can provided that the 'electronics' don't play a big role in the vehicles. Having a tank that is a very early prototype of the t-64 is absolute nonsense, it is too advanced to be in the game. Although it would not have the many new innovations in the final object 434 (t-64) it would probably at least have the level of electronics that a T62 would have and the developers couldn't even take the t-62 to the full level because the gun could fire rockets, the ingame so called t-62a is actually object 165 and is barely similar to the final production model of the t62 which is too 'advanced' by the developer's standards. Secondly because the armour is too much, 120mm well sloped is ok but the 160mm is too OP for any medium. Despite that, it still weighs under the 40 ton mark, as a result a weaker engine would have to be placed than the one in real life or the terrain passability would have to be nerfed heavily to balance it out. This idea has been suggested many times before and although I am not at all against it, i just don't think it will happen in my humble opinion.

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View PostT90_TANK, on 03 June 2013 - 01:26 PM, said:

There are a few reasons why this will never happen. One of which is that WG stated that they wanted to go as far with tanks as they can provided that the 'electronics' don't play a big role in the vehicles. Having a tank that is a very early prototype of the t-64 is absolute nonsense, it is too advanced to be in the game. Although it would not have the many new innovations in the final object 434 (t-64) it would probably at least have the level of electronics that a T62 would have and the developers couldn't even take the t-62 to the full level because the gun could fire rockets, the ingame so called t-62a is actually object 165 and is barely similar to the final production model of the t62 which is too 'advanced' by the developer's standards. Secondly because the armour is too much, 120mm well sloped is ok but the 160mm is too OP for any medium. Despite that, it still weighs under the 40 ton mark, as a result a weaker engine would have to be placed than the one in real life or the terrain passability would have to be nerfed heavily to balance it out. This idea has been suggested many times before and although I am not at all against it, i just don't think it will happen in my humble opinion.

I don't believe the tanks are too advanced for the game, as a prototype won't have all the technological aiming systems as it would compared to the finished Prototype and 160mm on a Medium Tank? Na, I don't think it would be too OP

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View PostPichu_Trainer, on 03 June 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

I don't believe the tanks are too advanced for the game, as a prototype won't have all the technological aiming systems as it would compared to the finished Prototype and 160mm on a Medium Tank? Na, I don't think it would be too OP
Have you seen the angles? Seen the e75 upper slope? Yep, same thing but on a medium tank.

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View PostT90_TANK, on 04 June 2013 - 11:52 AM, said:

Have you seen the angles? Seen the e75 upper slope? Yep, same thing but on a medium tank.
And that's your argument? Pretty pathetic