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Poll: T18 voting (165 members have cast votes)

T18 must be nerfed

  1. yes (100 votes [60.61%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 60.61%

  2. no (65 votes [39.39%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 39.39%

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warisoverdragon #1 Posted 06 June 2013 - 07:34 AM

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i wonder if anyone thinks the T18 is OP, like i do. it oneshots all tier 2,s in the game. even the H35
the armor cannot be penned with an MG on the front and sloped side, the H35 front can be penned if you aim. so it is also the only tier 2 i cannot pen with the M2 LT. i know it has weak things like a real bad viewrange. but still.. he can shoot targets at 550 m if spotted and still deal full damage. do you think it must be nerfed for the sake of new players against ragequiting and never returning? (no offenses and dislikes in this topics please)

hamstor #2 Posted 06 June 2013 - 07:43 AM

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If I do my daily doubles with T2 LT and T1E6 I always focus the bloody T-18 abusers and t-bag/hump their destroyed tank from behind.

But most of the time it's enough to scout for your lemmings/campers and they take out everything, even those T-18 moles.

The T-18 is very OP against newbies, who dunno how to counter it. Mostly every other T2 tank can easily be penned by everyone and his dog and those with "good" armor (H35/H39) have only pretty average guns and are really slow.

But T18, well, it combines decent speed, great armor and superior firepower. And sacrifices... well... only viewrange?

Promil1984 #3 Posted 06 June 2013 - 08:16 AM

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Well I remember when I played again PzII after long brake from low tiers I only hope was "let it be there no T18s" but hell, met sometimes 3. With FLAK I still managed to do some real havoc with 5-7 kills regardless of their presence in battle so... no, I think armor nerf is not necessary, but speed limit just might be a good idea.

tankymiau #4 Posted 06 June 2013 - 08:18 AM

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T18 has low hitpoints, get some gold, and you even penetrate it from the font. It takes you three seconds with Pom-Pom to take it out.
With his vertical amour nothing bounced. I don't see any problems.

C1BO #5 Posted 06 June 2013 - 08:27 AM

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There is already a thread about the T-18 not even a week old:
http://forum.worldof...-a-bit-to-good/

Hellbanan #6 Posted 06 June 2013 - 08:45 AM

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The most important reason for the T18 beeing good is that most people in tier1-4 games have really no idea what they are doing (not blaming them). Therefore a seasoned T18 driver can use the strengths of this tanks and roflstomp the enemy.

Best way to counter T18 is using the Universal Carrier 2-pd with the QF 2-pdr AT Gun Mk. IX featuring 64mm penetration with standard ammo - punches through the T18 frontally every time.

warisoverdragon #7 Posted 06 June 2013 - 09:25 AM

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as i said, i know some can pen it! but some cant. this is the only tier 2 with no weakspots weak enough for the MG,s to pen. gold shells ona mg is 15x400. not going to shoot that for 1 kill or survival.

MartiniHenrie #8 Posted 06 June 2013 - 01:56 PM

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What's this a weapon struggle to pen another tank frontally because of thick armor?  Wow, I'm sure glad that this doesn't happen on other tiers!

/sarcasm.

warisoverdragon #9 Posted 06 June 2013 - 08:59 PM

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View PostMartiniHenrie, on 06 June 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

What's this a weapon struggle to pen another tank frontally because of thick armor?  Wow, I'm sure glad that this doesn't happen on other tiers!

/sarcasm.

well they have pennable weakspots.

Promil1984 #10 Posted 07 June 2013 - 06:04 AM

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@up - so is T18 you just lack precision with MG to do that.

iacobusXII #11 Posted 08 June 2013 - 08:36 PM

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imo it is only a good tank if you know how to play it. if, therefore, a new player wants to go down the US td line he woould go down a nerfed t18 and that would be even worse for the new players

Treadshred #12 Posted 09 June 2013 - 10:58 AM

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I drive a T18 and can tell you that I get zapped pretty frequently by other players.  In fightjg T18 you do just like any other non-turreted TD get on their side/rear and kill. At any tier it's
not fun taking on a TD head first

warisoverdragon #13 Posted 09 June 2013 - 09:09 PM

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i see that every post i make is hated and disliked.. some mad T18 drivers? :c

AoKoshiro #14 Posted 11 June 2013 - 09:46 PM

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The place i marked can be penetrated with rocks.
https://imageshack.u...otorcarriag.png

warisoverdragon #15 Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:07 PM

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View PostAoKoshiro, on 11 June 2013 - 09:46 PM, said:

The place i marked can be penetrated with rocks.
https://imageshack.u...otorcarriag.png

ill try, dinged it before. but that was from a slight left position (slope) also noticed i can pen through a part of his tracks (there where there arent wheels)

JohnnyMaverik #16 Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:41 AM

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View PostAoKoshiro, on 11 June 2013 - 09:46 PM, said:

The place i marked can be penetrated with rocks.

This is true and I can go through a T18 90% of the time now in my Cruiser III, which is my chosen tier II keeper, but my Cruiser III has decent accuracy and a 100% crew, hell it has pretty damn good penetration for a tier II, I can go through his strong armour a lot of the time let alone a weak spot, however most tier II tanks have crap accuracy and most tier II players are, at best, rolling around with 75% crews, most 50 - 60%, so to hit that spot, which isn't a massive target, they pretty much have to face hug it...  which of course is a pretty bad idea.

Hennerz_the_boss #17 Posted 18 June 2013 - 03:17 PM

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There is no doubt that the T18 is an amazing tank but it only takes two tanks flanking it or for it to be out in the open for it to be be destroyed. It has a poor view range so tier two tanks with enough penetration can destroy it easily.

Though on Himmelsdorf it really comes into its own and as long as you don't run into another T18, you'll get a lot of kills.

Elvicomte #18 Posted 19 June 2013 - 09:18 PM

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When you see 9 to 10 T18s by match, 5 games in a row, you know a tank is overpowered, let's face it, and it's not good for the game, diversity-wise at the very least.

warisoverdragon #19 Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:54 PM

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View PostAoKoshiro, on 11 June 2013 - 09:46 PM, said:

The place i marked can be penetrated with rocks.
https://imageshack.u...otorcarriag.png

i tried the weakspot, 14 ding 1 pen. then i got oneshot. any weaker front spots?  :sceptic:

Nossie #20 Posted 20 June 2013 - 03:09 PM

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The T18 appears to have lost its derp

I kept one so I could help introduce friends and new folk to the game.  I tried to do my 2x in it every day but that's about all I played it.  Anyways, because of the front armour and exceptional derp it was a fun and unique tank to play.  I just wanted to point out that I rarely sealclubbed.

The tank is NEEDED at that tier.  For people to realize that there are weakspots. You can't just point and click your way up the tiers.

I do have an S35 prem, I use that to troll people that don't understand armour, however there is no excuse to be unable to kill T18s.  The front is strong but the back and sides are EXCEPTIONALLY weak.  Take advantage of that and keep it in mind for later tanks.  I think it's sad the T18 has lost the derp because it's less fun for a quck blast.  However it should cut down the rampant amount of platoon sealclubbing that was going on.

Now lets concentrate on getting the pz 1c nerfed? yes? =P

TL;DR  - if you are still getting slaughtered by T18s.  You don't know how to play WOT.

Edited by Nossie, 20 June 2013 - 03:19 PM.