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Community #1 Posted 15 June 2013 - 06:52 PM

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Andrey Yarantsau, Vice President of Publishing, will tell you about introducing a new free to win model.

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Adrian1 #2 Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:03 PM

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More Boasting from WG, <3

RongoMatane #3 Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:03 PM

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Spending money on a premium account/premium tanks/credits packages enables a player to spend more creditsper game - in essence, to buy more gold ammo for credits or even gold consumables. This leads to some of the players having an advantage over the players, that spend no money at all. Spending money will give you an advantage in each battle. And WG PR claims the opposite. I feel mocked.

Edited by RongoMatane, 15 June 2013 - 07:04 PM.


Toddwjp #4 Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:13 PM

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this isnt a new idea, this is just not being pay to win, countless games have done it.

Chan112 #5 Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:14 PM

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oh stop whining ... as far ass f2p games go ... wot is the most free there is ...if u want u can never spend a dime and still be able to play as much as you want ....this bull about some ppl making more money and thus having an advantage is just ridiculous! ...who stops the "disadvantage" players from grinding a bit of credits so that they can afford prem ammo and consumables ... ? its up to each player to decide if he wants to earn 100k credits per mach or not ....not that i am defending, but coming from other f2p games ... this one has the most freedom of choice u will ever find ( at least so far)! go plau Star wars the old republic ... they are f2p ...but the game is impossible to play without buying Cartel coins ( gold ) ...so basically its just a free trial or demo ... if u wanna play the whole game ... u have to buy stuff. or have a subscription ... so in my own opinion WoT has the best f2p model out there ...



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Bajuware #6 Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:26 PM

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View PostRongoMatane, on 15 June 2013 - 07:03 PM, said:

Spending money on a premium account/premium tanks/credits packages enables a player to spend more creditsper game - in essence, to buy more gold ammo for credits or even gold consumables. This leads to some of the players having an advantage over the players, that spend no money at all. Spending money will give you an advantage in each battle. And WG PR claims the opposite. I feel mocked.
+1 from me mate

Dreadsteel #7 Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:37 PM

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I guess RongoMatane explained this very clearly, but I'd like that someone gives another explanation. So what exactly does the paying customer gain? And what does the non-paying customer miss? Please enlighten me more specificly and +1 to RongoMatane.Edit: So if I understood right, you can use a specific amount of credits per battle, and that amount is determined on how well you have performed in your battles (?). If it is like this, then those who pay for premium account get that +50% bonus and increases their "performance rating". Not sure if it is like this, please correct if I'm wrong.

Edited by Dreadsteel, 15 June 2013 - 07:49 PM.


Trent #8 Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:42 PM

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View PostRongoMatane, on 15 June 2013 - 07:03 PM, said:

Spending money on a premium account/premium tanks/credits packages enables a player to spend more creditsper game - in essence, to buy more gold ammo for credits or even gold consumables.

Well, choosing to grind credits in low tiers (where the influence of premium stuff is negligible - when you play Marder II it doesn't matter much what you shoot) enables you to do the same.

Chuffy #9 Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:45 PM

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When everything that can be bought with Gold can be bought with Credits, perhaps they'll be correct.

I welcome the opportunity to get Automatic fire extinguishers for credits as the video seems to suggest. Let's see how far they go at opening up everything, credit garage slots for example.

Trent #10 Posted 15 June 2013 - 07:59 PM

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View PostChuffy, on 15 June 2013 - 07:45 PM, said:

I welcome the opportunity to get Automatic fire extinguishers for credits as the video seems to suggest.

They're already available for credits.


View PostChuffy, on 15 June 2013 - 07:45 PM, said:

Let's see how far they go at opening up everything, credit garage slots for example.

I'm sure they only mean in-game advantage, and garages give you none - at least I've never been called "gold garage slots noob" in a battle. :veryhappy:

RongoMatane #11 Posted 15 June 2013 - 08:03 PM

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View PostTrent, on 15 June 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:

Well, choosing to grind credits in low tiers (where the influence of premium stuff is negligible - when you play Marder II it doesn't matter much what you shoot) enables you to do the same.

This is true in theory. But the reality in the game is different. Most people won't do 5 T3 games to finance one T8 game where they use as much gold as they want. Even if they'd do 5 T3 games, they'd be very careful with their gold ammo. Someone who gets loads of credits doesn't have to care about shooting 5 more or less gold bullets.

View PostChuffy, on 15 June 2013 - 07:45 PM, said:

When everything that can be bought with Gold can be bought with Credits, perhaps they'll be correct.
I welcome the opportunity to get Automatic fire extinguishers for credits as the video seems to suggest. Let's see how far they go at opening up everything, credit garage slots for example.

I don't say this development is bad. WG just twists the truth. They let it look like everyone is equal now, while in fact the differences and the "pay to win" got bigger.
Everyone in the world can buy a Ferrari, if you have 200K €. But this doesn't mean, everyone is equal. People with more money are in a better position towards buying such a car, than people with no money. And ingame, people who spend real money will be people who have lots of credits. It's simply not equality, it's 2 classes of players.

I have a premium account myself and some premium tanks - i don't have to care about making some 10K loss in the game because i shot gold ammo excessively. Show me some guys that pay no money that can say the same. It's an unfair advantage i only have because i pay real money. This is ok if WG intends the game to be like this, but they act like everyone is equal and people who pay money had no advantage. Sadly, many people believe this PR :(

Edited by RongoMatane, 15 June 2013 - 08:05 PM.


Chuffy #12 Posted 15 June 2013 - 08:05 PM

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View PostTrent, on 15 June 2013 - 07:59 PM, said:

They're already available for credits.

Ok then. Thanks. Been away from the game too long.

Orzanel #13 Posted 15 June 2013 - 08:18 PM

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why not remove premium ammo and arty for good and bring back skill to wot on this occasion..

Shade1982 #14 Posted 15 June 2013 - 08:27 PM

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In essence and on paper, true. Because all players have access to all items, regardless of buying gold or not, premium players have no real advantage over other players.

The problem however is in premium ammo mostly. Because it was only available for gold before, it was only rarely used in random battles. Because you can also buy it for credits now, it is used much more. Because of this, tanks with very specific strong points (like having a tough front, so others could hide behind it) are now no longer (or much less) useful.

Edited by Shade1982, 15 June 2013 - 08:28 PM.


custardSPARTA #15 Posted 15 June 2013 - 08:42 PM

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View PostChan112, on 15 June 2013 - 07:14 PM, said:

oh stop whining ... as far ass f2p games go ... wot is the most free there is ...if u want u can never spend a dime and still be able to play as much as you want ....this bull about some ppl making more money and thus having an advantage is just ridiculous! ...who stops the "disadvantage" players from grinding a bit of credits so that they can afford prem ammo and consumables ... ? its up to each player to decide if he wants to earn 100k credits per mach or not ....not that i am defending, but coming from other f2p games ... this one has the most freedom of choice u will ever find ( at least so far)! go plau Star wars the old republic ... they are f2p ...but the game is impossible to play without buying Cartel coins ( gold ) ...so basically its just a free trial or demo ... if u wanna play the whole game ... u have to buy stuff. or have a subscription ... so in my own opinion WoT has the best f2p model out there ...



Sorry about bad english ...not my first language!
You are spot on


Sorry couldn't +2

laserad #16 Posted 15 June 2013 - 08:53 PM

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who the hell wants to pay 20k for a one-use prem consumable.. dummies will continue to break the game by using premium stuff paid with gold in random battles... and then the weekends

psysiphos #17 Posted 15 June 2013 - 08:58 PM

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that reminds me of 1984 where the newsspeakers/papers told over and over how much the quality of life increased while in reality it didnt or even decreased.
does wg really think of its consumers as a bunch of half-wits? would be weird because i think there are a lot of consumers that think exactly that about serb and cohorts.

kiajmundi #18 Posted 15 June 2013 - 09:00 PM

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Simple marketing trick to get more players.

As Rongo said, there will never be equality. Ohh and no advantage for premium players?? Just think on crew training. Gold --> 100% Credit --> 75%  Played 2000 battles with 1 tank. Premium ---> more skills and perks ,Standart ---> less skills and perks with the same amount of battles. So non premium player have equal chances with less skills and perks againts a premium one with more???

Elninjo12 #19 Posted 15 June 2013 - 09:37 PM

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Equality is only available in socialism  :tongue:

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Painiac #20 Posted 15 June 2013 - 11:03 PM

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Well, there's no equality, but I do not know any game, which would have better system than WoT. For example, in Cosmic Break, you need to pay money... to try LOTTERY. Do you imagine paying, and doing LOTTERY again and again to get IS-7, Maus or other X tier? That sounds fucking ridiculous, ya? It is extreme, but shows that WoT is pretty fair in this sense. You can buy gold stuff for CW, and have equal chances with defenders fed on gold. What's more, you can win, farm gold. If you manage to farm enough gold, you don't have to pay anything to play on premium account. It is harder, it requires more time - but it's possible. In most games, that's impossible.




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