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aleria #21 Posted 17 June 2013 - 02:54 PM

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Ransack option will only be available for the provinces captured less than one turn previously.

really, less than one turn, that is exactly how much? maybe get someone who has understanding of both language and game mechanics/rules.

anyway, overall the campaign adds something new to the game, it may not be perfect yet but it is a nice start. imho WG CW game developers should add more options for yet developing clans. i mean, previously the established clans were fighting Northern Europe/Mediterranean while small clans had at least a chance to go for Africa for a start. now of course even small clans might win a landing or two in the Pre-stage but are left to play basically no role during the following 20-30 days. good players flock even more to the established clans to have a chance to win. do not get me wrong, good clans will always find a way to make it to the top, but WG should make sure to offer some entertainment to the less hardcore clans and their dedicated members as well that goes beyond two or three days of glory. to sum it up, finally some change and development in CW, yet there is room for improvements, a lot of. happy hunting

Cobra6 #22 Posted 17 June 2013 - 03:23 PM

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View PostTuccy, on 17 June 2013 - 02:46 PM, said:

Fixed, sorry, looks like our tools are a bit confused today.

You don't manually copy-paste those messages then?  :smile:

Glad to see it got fixed hehe.

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here's a silly question tho ... the top 5 clans will recieve that M60 oke ... but if they have been in the top 5 of the first stage didn't they already have that M60 then?

correct me if i'm wrong tho :)

L3gi #24 Posted 17 June 2013 - 03:47 PM

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Please be advised that 17th - 18th June vehicle restrictions in Clan Wars will be set to tier V.Filter your garage for your tier V machines and get their guns loaded up, Commanders!

Guess what, WE DONT HAVE tier specific filters yet..!

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MolochZ #25 Posted 17 June 2013 - 04:44 PM

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View PostL3gi, on 17 June 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

Guess what, WE DONT HAVE tier specific filters yet..!

Thats what I was gonna say.

BombsAway #26 Posted 17 June 2013 - 04:50 PM

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How about a small break between Stage 1 and 2 so people have a bit smaller chance of BURN OUT?

Oh right, it would make sense. Can't have that.

MisterCro #27 Posted 17 June 2013 - 05:42 PM

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I now this will be campgain only for clans like kazna, pirates, exnom ... They have bad politics, i have frend in a strong clan, he say to me that clan give him an order to grind tier 6 and tier 7 for 2 days, and all in clan must have that tank, that is [edited]! You must be online, listen to the stupid rules.... heeej this is just the game , i ask my people in clan will they play this or not, they say not, why spent money and crew retraining for all new tier, why lose time on playing this when we now on the start winners od campgain, we decided to not to play this cmpgain and wait tier 10 to come back!

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View PostllVIU, on 17 June 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

MTWEmperor because fairness is when everyone has an equal chance to get the reward - like getting a tier 10 vehicle, some just take a shorter route (good players

however in clans wars, ONLY a few few players of elite clans get the M60 and NOBODY else has even the slightest chance of getting the tank, you call that fair? that's like putting a 6 year old with a scientist from nasa, in a math test... yeah sooo fair, the nasa scientist will ace the test each and every single time
I guess you want the M60 to be given out like participation ribbons don't you?  Your version of fairness is like the idealist version of communism where everyone gets a prize.

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It's absolutely right that the top clans should be rewarded with the top prizes - if you and your clan have the skill and perserverance to reach that level the you deserve it. I think it would be nice to see a little bit more competition between the top clans, but maybe that will come later.

No, my main issue is not with the gold or the prizes, but can be summed up by the following taken from the world map this evening:
1457/1462: Clans participating in landing tournaments/total clans attempting to land
120: clans on the map
And if I recall correctly there were around three and a half thousand clans participating in the initial map redivision.

Mymh #30 Posted 17 June 2013 - 11:38 PM

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You really killed my interest in CW completely with this second deployment.

While these lowtiers in some ways feel fresh and fun for a few games, it has alot of negatives that is taking the piss as well.
* You have to buy tanks (and possibly tank slots) you have zero interest in.
* You have to train new crews or sacrifice crews from tank you DO have interest in.
* You have to commit in tanks you have zero interest in, unlike tier 10 where you know it's "end of the line and used in CW", these are just gimmick tanks used for a few days, so all your credits/golds are literally "wasted".
(I know this is why WG made it anyway, to force us to waste gold and credits and up the grind)

..and because of above reasons, I was especially annoyed that tier 4 was three days rather than two. Two was a bit much as well, having all tiers one day would've been ok-ish but still annoying because of the grinds. But literally what you get out of this right now:

* Stage 2 has five days etc on tier 7 tanks, thus just expanding the pain we're already enduring.
* The total time of this gimmick-and-super-expensive-grind-fest is dragging out and thus putting tier 10's even further in the future, i.e. we have a period of time where CW is either useless (for those of us who want to use our invested tier 10's we planned for CW), or just very expensive. It's killing the "real" CW.

I think the real solution for WG instead would've been one of these:
> Either make separate maps for separate tiers. Open CW for different tier ranges, with rewards increasing the higher tier you go. But this way you keep it open for everyone, and don't force us to invest in tanks we don't want to use (and only will use a limited time).
> Or you keep each tier a one day event only, then we can 'get away with' using cheaper crew/less equipment and just see it as a fun gimmick rather than having to invest crew/time/credits/gold like mad.

I'm really disappointed with this entire thing, it's a waste of time, it stops our tank progress towards tier 10's (we have to play lowtier gimmick tanks for crew). It wastes shitload of credits that in a few days time is redundant. It just is a really bad compromise between a "fun thing" and a massive credit sink. Clearly WG just did this to force us to grind and spend more, but it really fails in execution. And honestly not everyone has crews to spare for it, if we are supposed to grind crew for nine different tiers of tanks we need ALOT of time to prepare, not just a few days/weeks.

I hope real CW returns sooner rather than later, and this gimmick ploy thing is reconsidered for the future. It needs alot better execution. The very least, alot of ahead warning for crew/credit grinds.

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View PostL3gi, on 17 June 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

Guess what, WE DONT HAVE tier specific filters yet..!

Oh yeah, this is one of my major annoyances in this game as well.. :P

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See you after summer

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Will the map be wiped again or will clans keep current provinces ?

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View PostllVIU, on 17 June 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

MTWEmperor because fairness is when everyone has an equal chance to get the reward - like getting a tier 10 vehicle, some just take a shorter route (good players

however in clans wars, ONLY a few few players of elite clans get the M60 and NOBODY else has even the slightest chance of getting the tank, you call that fair? that's like putting a 6 year old with a scientist from nasa, in a math test... yeah sooo fair, the nasa scientist will ace the test each and every single time

Yes, But the test is for being a NASA engineer. But to be political correct NASA should hire the 6 year old? Because no child left behind, everybody is a winner?

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only a small consideration.
for small clans there is no hope, now or later.
Alliances between major Clan make it impossible to carry out the landing and then fight for the conquest of inland territories.
You knew it would end like this.
Patience, we participated to entertain the usual.  :smile:

NolanLegit #36 Posted 18 June 2013 - 03:53 PM

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The thing that disturbs me is that the M60 is the reward to a event. I'd rather have it being a permanent thing like: reaching XY amount of victory points will reward the clan with this tank. That way all the "pro" clans will get it faster than others but still it leaves opportunity for the average clan to eventually get the tank.

ZuuperZer0 #37 Posted 18 June 2013 - 04:32 PM

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I just hope they clear the map again so that we all have a fresh start @ next round.

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View Postoctak, on 18 June 2013 - 08:06 AM, said:

Yes, But the test is for being a NASA engineer. But to be political correct NASA should hire the 6 year old? Because no child left behind, everybody is a winner?

It's not a problem giving the best player a prize, after all they deserve it.

Giving them a tank that potentially might be good in CW tho, just gives them an advantage to stay on top and puts whoever will start this game later (but could potentially be a better player) at a disadvantage.

It's no problem they hand out this tank. It's a problem it's a) tier 10 and b) potentially useful (it seems like a better M48 atm, that means every situation where an M48 would be useful you're constantly on the back heel against these players that happened to play CW at time X). That's what is wrong with it. If they made it below tier 10, that'd made it fine. I'm not sure that making it a very bad tier 10 would be fine either, that's an insult to the winners and still giving a potential advantage. Tanks that are being used in CW should be available to everyone, period. Well, speaking of that, the other option ofc would be if WG puts a 'lock' on the M60 so it cannot be used in CW. That'd solve that problem, and make it fine in my eyes. Using special tanks in TC/Randoms, np. Using them in CW and possibly get advantage over others - well, do I even have to explain how stupid that is? :X

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Hello guys, we just copied over our FAQ from NA Server. It might be helpful for you and clarifies some ongoing discussions.

Clan Wars Campaign Stage 2 FAQ

Q: Are the wins, not counting the technical victories, on Landing Zones from the first stage counted?
  • A: Yes, battles from landing tournaments during Stage 1 will count towards the games required to qualify for rewards.
Q: Will the Global Map be reset after each Stage or will we keep the land we owned from Stage 1?
  • A: The map will NOT be wiped between stages 1 and 2
Q: When will Riots be enabled during the Campaign?
  • A: Riots are not active for Stage 1, but will be enabled for Stage 2.
Q: Do Light Tanks and Artillery follow the same tier restrictions as other tanks?
  • A: Tier limits are the applied to same to all tanks. If the tier limit is 7, you can have up to tier 7 Light Tanks and Artillery.
Q: How many battles do you need to get the campaign rewards?
  • A: You will need to participate in 5 battles in each stage for that stage’s rewards and you will need 10 battles overall for campaign rewards.
Q: Do technical victories count toward the number of games required to get campaign rewards?
  • A: Technical Victories do not count towards campaign rewards.
Q: When will I receive my Clan Wars and Campaign participation medals?
  • A: The Clan Wars medal should have been awarded to everyone who met the requirements. The Campaign medals will be awarded at the end of the event.
Q: When is Tank Locking Active?
  • A: Tank Locking is active during stage 1 but Tank Locking is disabled for Stage 2.
Q: When do I get Victory Points in Stage 2?
  • A: Victory Points will be credited each turn during the whole of Stage 2.
Q: During Stage 2, if you ransack a province will I receive a reduce the number of Victory Points?
  • A: Since Victory Points are based on gold earned, you will take 3 days of Victory Points in addition to the gold and leave that province unable to produce VP or gold for 5 days.
Q: How much will provinces be worth during the campaign?
  • A: Starting with stage 2, province income will be dynamic. There will be no static provinces and income will shift up or down depending on the region.
Q: During Stage 1, will Victory Points be awarded for territories not connected to the Headquarters?
  • A: Victory Points in Stage 1 will be awarded at the end of the stage regardless of whether they are connected to your HQ.
Q: During Stage 2, will Victory Points be awarded for territories not connected to the Headquarters?
  • A: No, Victory Points are based on gold earned. Territories will not earn gold or Victory points if they are not connected to the Headquarters.
Q: If you get top 5 in more than one stage, can they give you two M60's? So you can play one while the other is in battle?
  • A: No player can win multiple M60s, if the clan qualifies during multiple stages, players who did not qualify in a previous stage but do qualify in the current stage will receive their reward.
Q: Do riots work differently during the Campaign?
  • A: The rules regarding rioting will not change. Clans that currently hold land CANNOT apply for riot zones.
Q: How do I qualify for the 'Campaign Participant’ medal?
  • A: For playing at least one battle during the Campaign, players will receive a special ‘Campaign Participant’ medal.
Q: How do I qualify for the M60?
  • A: If your clan qualified for the M60 in a particular stage then you need to play at least 5 battles in that stage. If your clan qualified for the M60 during the Campaign then you need to have played at least 10 total battles throughout the stages.
Q: Any idea how long the whole campaign will last?
  • A: Stay tuned for announcements on that.
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Milan_CZ #40 Posted 01 July 2013 - 01:43 PM

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When Top 5 clans of every stage receive M60 and these Top 5 (or just some of them) will be still in Top 30 in whole campaign, will they receive M60 "several times" (I know they can receive M60 just once in garage)  or they will not be counted in Top 30 ? It means, can clans in higher place than 30 receive M60 instead those which have it already ?




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