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dagann #101 Posted 22 October 2011 - 11:04 PM

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View PostSotahullu, on 22 October 2011 - 03:52 PM, said:

Im the only one shocked that Somua ins't in the first "wave" -_-
It's the Wargaming touch :Smile_harp:

Hammerbolt #102 Posted 22 October 2011 - 11:21 PM

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I still can't find the answer for this: will we have multi-turrets with the french or not?

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Not in the first batch.

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View PostSotahullu, on 22 October 2011 - 10:47 PM, said:

well im still intrested; Was there some plans to up-gun the Somua with 75mm gun with larger tower?

Historically, the upgraded version of the Somua S35 was the S40, which was basically a lower S35 with a more powerful engine, a slighty modified turret and a better suspension. The 47mm SA35 gun was sufficient at the time so there weren't any planned upgrades about it.
Now the most probable gun upgrade on this tank would have been IMO a 47mm SA37, derived from the more efficient 47mm towed AT gun. A 75mm gun would have called for deeper modifications, which were unnecessary as a new tank was planned (the G1 medium tank).

Souroy #105 Posted 23 October 2011 - 09:33 AM

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We can mention the SARL 42, although it was not really a Somua S35/40 it was strongly inspired by them.
Planned to be fitted with a 75mm APX (as in the G1 R, B and L, the SAu 40, ARL V 39 ...).

Drawing and toy-model (not really true to the drawing but it give a good idea of what the SARL 42 could have looked like):
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It's interesting to note that, seeing the latest pics, the fact this turret was not used as the upgraded one on the G1 R let me think there is a chance we will see it on the S35 (which, by the way, would be a good means to balance the S35 in Tier 4).

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View PostSouroy, on 23 October 2011 - 09:33 AM, said:

We can mention the SARL 42, although it was not really a Somua S35/40 it was strongly inspired by them.
Planned to be fitted with a 75mm APX (as in the G1 R, B and L, the SAu 40, ARL V 39 ...).

Drawing and toy-model (not really true to the drawing but it give a good idea of what the SARL 42 could have looked like):
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It's interesting to note that, seeing the latest pics, the fact this turret was not used as the upgraded one on the G1 R let me think there is a chance we will see it on the S35 (which, by the way, would be a good means to balance the S35 in Tier 4).


That I meaned! So it's gonna be at Tech Tree? Right?

Shortcake #107 Posted 23 October 2011 - 10:26 AM

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Oh hurry up already I wanna Somua 35 med with a view of a AMX.  I've had a garage space waiting for the last month...

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View PostXenomorphZeta, on 23 October 2011 - 12:20 AM, said:

Not in the first batch.

Damn.. this will cripple the B1  :mellow:

magicalme #109 Posted 25 October 2011 - 12:12 PM

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So there will be a tier 4 heavy and a tier 7 light?
Although not a top tier (dead end) light, as there is a followup medium.

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Technically... we have already have a tier 4 heavy.

Arkhell #111 Posted 25 October 2011 - 02:33 PM

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French tanks > Wierd designs (you either like them or hate them)

Reverse armoring:
Start heavy armored in low tiers end up unarmored in high tiers.

Gun follow normal line:
start bad go good and then go over the top by putting an automatic fire option clip in :P

speed agility:
pretty nimble from the start on out, atleast thats what it looks like atm


overall they look rather intresting atm.

MXDoener #112 Posted 15 December 2011 - 11:46 AM

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Hi guys,

i tested the french tanks on the testserver and I dunno what to think of the AMX40... It´s so extremly shaped, that nearly everything bounces off (When you drive one yourself, even with the latest guns...)
This led to situations, where AMX40s circled each other and tried to penetrate the other tank. But every shot bounced.
Even from behind and under 20m. Sure, the testserver is flooded with french tanks and i don´t know how it performs against US, German and Russian tanks, but how it´s now it´s just a pain in the ***.

Only a Char B1 was able to kill these tanks easily...

I hope they fix this, otherwise the first days after patch 7.1 will be nasty...

Hammerbolt #113 Posted 15 December 2011 - 12:10 PM

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View PostMXDoener, on 15 December 2011 - 11:46 AM, said:

Hi guys,

i tested the french tanks on the testserver and I dunno what to think of the AMX40... It´s so extremly shaped, that nearly everything bounces off (When you drive one yourself, even with the latest guns...)
This led to situations, where AMX40s circled each other and tried to penetrate the other tank. But every shot bounced.
Even from behind and under 20m. Sure, the testserver is flooded with french tanks and i don´t know how it performs against US, German and Russian tanks, but how it´s now it´s just a pain in the ***.

Tried HE, by any chance?

View PostMXDoener, on 15 December 2011 - 11:46 AM, said:

Only a Char B1 was able to kill these tanks easily...

With the 47mm? Is the B1 better in the test server than the current B2?

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View PostHammerbolt, on 15 December 2011 - 12:10 PM, said:

Tried HE, by any chance?



With the 47mm? Is the B1 better in the test server than the current B2?

Yeah, i tried HE with and on different tanks and guns. Even when it didn`t bounce, it made no damage. Not even many critcals. The zero damage thing is kind of outta control right now...

I don´t know which is the last gun on the B1 right now (because i´m not home right now) but it was the last gun. I was quite impressed with the performance of the B1... it´s fun :) Very agile, i didn´t expect that... thought it would move like a stock KV, but it´s quite more agile!
How it performs when you compare it to the B2 i can´t say, because I don´t own the B2, nor played it on the testserver.

The only french tank I own is the 38H, and its rule on the battlefield seems over, when i look at the 35H... It´s quite the same, but the 35h got the better gun and engine. I don´t think people will buy the 38H anymore, when 7.1 is released...

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Yes, the AMX40 is kind of an IS4 at tiers 4... It has only one real weakness from front : the driver compartment, right under the turret. But it's fairly hard to shoot from a distance. Even lower glassis is well protected! You can also try to shoot lower rear armour, there is a thin stripe you can get here...
HE damage is now very random. I had a game AMX40 vs AMX40 where i shot more than a dozen HE shells, most of them bounced off, a few didn't bounced but did low damage, a few did ~15% damage.

Small detail, but quite annoying, the short 75mm has a pew-pew sound like a small caliber... If at least it had a real sound, i could have the impression that tank has a gun :P

MKRE #116 Posted 15 December 2011 - 01:38 PM

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I think, the biggest issue with the AMX40 is, that not many people know where to shoot. It is not that op.
Yesterday I had a match in my AMX40 and last opponent was AMX40, too
He had six kills and highest tanks in that battle were B1s. He was camping at his flag. When I arrived there, he was down to 18-20%, my fist HE shot bounced, then I switched to normal AP and killed him with on shot in the side.
Before that I killed at least one other AMX40 frontally.
So, they are not unbeatable, but kinda well protected. But downside is the bad acceleration on flat ground. And with the time more people will know, where they have to shoot.
It is nearly the same with every new not-so-crappy tank when it first appears.
Compare it withe the Tiger P. It is only hard to kill, if you don´t know the weakspots.

jee1207 #117 Posted 19 December 2011 - 12:27 AM

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Hi,

Have you already spoken about SARL42 ?

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It was a beautiful project for the french army.

I do not know if you have already spoken about it and if I post it at the right place.
And I'm sorry if it's bad, I don't speak english really good.

Edit : Sorry, there is another post about it a the begin of this topic.

Sirgutz #118 Posted 20 December 2011 - 03:30 AM

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Nice Turan III Hungary med Tank on the Last pic  :Smile_honoring:

Bagsiuuu #119 Posted 11 January 2012 - 02:42 PM

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what first tank in french tanks medium got magazine ? from tier 5 or 6 ?

Exard3k #120 Posted 11 January 2012 - 02:50 PM

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AMX 12, Tier 5. But its only a prelude to AMX 13 pwnage  :Smile-izmena:




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