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marioulis #1 Posted 16 July 2013 - 01:22 AM

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So ok we have a vechile with 0 gun depresion wich makes the 50 120 useles think they should do something?

yenger #2 Posted 16 July 2013 - 01:27 AM

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it balences the tank imo, it's still a good tank non the less though =]

Colonel_Boom #3 Posted 16 July 2013 - 01:29 AM

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What is zero gun depression?
I think the gun depression is pretty much normal compared to other tanks and especially for french tanks.

Look at the chinese mediums. These things have "0" gun depression. The tank is just awesome with the 120mm.

MfG Boom

EDIT: Wait a moment. Did you mean depression or elevation?
If you mean elevation then yes it sucks...

Edited by Colonel_Boom, 16 July 2013 - 01:31 AM.


marioulis #4 Posted 16 July 2013 - 01:42 AM

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i mean for both elevation and depresion but srsly the depresion sucks a lot i dont know if its me cuz i play alot of american tanks but this thing is just -_-

Homer_J #5 Posted 16 July 2013 - 01:43 AM

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View Postmarioulis, on 16 July 2013 - 01:22 AM, said:

So ok we have a vechile with 0 gun depresion wich makes the 50 120 useles think they should do something?

-6 to +8 according to my info.

Not the worst in the game by far.

eliocoric #6 Posted 16 July 2013 - 01:51 AM

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View Postmarioulis, on 16 July 2013 - 01:22 AM, said:

So ok we have a vechile with 0 gun depresion wich makes the 50 120 useles think they should do something?

Just learn how to play... your wn7 is not adequate to play tanks like 50 120.. those tanks require more skill and brain to be played good.

marioulis #7 Posted 16 July 2013 - 01:54 AM

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yeah yeah win rate is everything always like i can win alone XD

brutus007 #8 Posted 16 July 2013 - 11:03 AM

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Average depression and bad elevation are balancing factors for 50 120 and I am OK with this (got really screwed by these though when first time on new Korean map from last patch - in spots I like to use with other tanks 50 120 was aiming somewhere above/under targets and there was nothing I could do about it... well lesson learned and new spots found).
Overall after latest accuracy changes FR 120mm gun got MUCH better and I do enjoy 50 120 - except for 2 points
- terrible economy of this tank - generating loss in games where JgTiger (or other T9 - but I play JgTiger lot lately so I can compare these best) makes profit
- very long intra-drum reload - 3.33 sec is crippling for repeater tank without armor and limits usability too much - would like to see something like 2.5 - 2.8 (and prolong drum reload accordingly to keep same DPM)

Eokokok #9 Posted 16 July 2013 - 12:20 PM

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Depression is average, elevetion is low, don't see to point of this thread. If you can't make -6 degs work then maybe this game is not for you :mellow:

BramSd #10 Posted 19 July 2013 - 11:21 AM

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Got no problem with the gun depression; it's at quite a normal value. The gun elevation is total crap though. Still, looking at the hard statistics of the tank, I can't see a reason to buff it in any way.

troolie #11 Posted 21 July 2013 - 10:06 AM

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View Posteliocoric, on 16 July 2013 - 01:51 AM, said:


Just learn how to play... your wn7 is not adequate to play tanks like 50 120.. those tanks require more skill and brain to be played good.

How to pad your stats:

1) learn to play like an average player
2) now that you can play decently, create a new account and go premium
3) abuse gold shell, free XP and all the premium stuff that make long grind and unfair (for you) battles a distant souvenir
4) make your way through some easy tank line - skip occasional dreadful tanks and stock with credit card - with a grossly OP tierX as your goal (just ask which are currently popular in clan wars and you'll know)
5) find a clan with people like you and platoon with two of them using TS
6) show off your stats on forum

Congrats, your stats are now unicum level.

McMokka #12 Posted 22 July 2013 - 12:23 PM

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View Posttroolie, on 21 July 2013 - 10:06 AM, said:

[size=4]How to pad your stats:1) learn to play like an average player2) now that you can play decently, create a new account and go premium3) abuse gold shell, free XP and all the premium stuff that make long grind and unfair (for you) battles a distant souvenir4) make your way through some easy tank line - skip occasional dreadful tanks and stock with credit card - with a grossly OP tierX as your goal (just ask which are currently popular in clan wars and you'll know)5) find a clan with people like you and platoon with two of them using TS6) show off your stats on forumCongrats, your stats are now unicum level.


Yeah, because it is impossible to get improving stats while improving in gameplay -.-
*sarcasm off*
seriously, what is your point?

freewinds #13 Posted 19 August 2013 - 11:40 PM

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View Postmarioulis, on 16 July 2013 - 01:42 AM, said:

i mean for both elevation and depresion but srsly the depresion sucks a lot i dont know if its me cuz i play alot of american tanks but this thing is just -_-

indeed ELEVATION   AND   DEPRESSION

1 small bump or rock and you c ant aim

wot stop nerving good tanks !!!

Jack_Sparroxx #14 Posted 04 October 2013 - 02:39 PM

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Well I have 2K averange dpm in this tank.. thats not terrible, but it's also not very good either. And so far it's definatly not a keeper like my amx 50-100 is. MM is soo much more brutal, and the Amx 50-120 have very few pro's to make up for that more brutal MM.

Gun depression is ok, obviously I would like more, but it is on par with most other tanks in this range.. There is 3 things this tank need, faster reload between shots, better gun elevation and some sort of armour buff to the front.  In particular the reload time and smaller aim bloom time between shots is what really makes the american autoloaders a better choice over the french in most cases.  

One other thing I have notices is that the top gun have a tendency to troll me a lot, either bounces or pens no damage on stuff I usually dont get with non autoloaders. So far I have I have managed to halt my temptation of spamming gold in this tank, but I'm getting really tempted sometimes to spam gold left right and center as bouncing shots in an autoloader can be the deciding factor between glorious victory or complete failure.

taattis #15 Posted 05 October 2013 - 02:58 AM

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It is the worst tier 9 tank I have played and it needs more gun elevation and a slightly faster reload inside the clip.

NefertumCz #16 Posted 14 October 2013 - 01:51 PM

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well this tank need some driving skill it's one of the tanks which are not noob friendly

Peppercut #17 Posted 28 November 2013 - 01:12 PM

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Tank performs great

[Link] Video on AMX 50 120

DerRattenmann #18 Posted 29 November 2013 - 03:55 AM

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Actually these games show that it's not working... In the first game you decided to not reset the cap altough the scores were pretty even and you had the speed and the time to do it because the 50 120 wouldn'd have survived that and in the second you did 7500 damage to the campers because the 50 120 is not suited for going out and support the attackers on hilly terrain due to its bad gun-depression/elevation, bad camo valueand size. It would have simply died out there. Don't get me wrong, you did great in both games but you might have turned them into wins in another tier 9 heavy.

Peppercut #19 Posted 29 November 2013 - 10:31 AM

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View PostDerRattenmann, on 29 November 2013 - 03:55 AM, said:

Actually these games show that it's not working... In the first game you decided to not reset the cap altough the scores were pretty even and you had the speed and the time to do it because the 50 120 wouldn'd have survived that and in the second you did 7500 damage to the campers because the 50 120 is not suited for going out and support the attackers on hilly terrain due to its bad gun-depression/elevation, bad camo valueand size. It would have simply died out there. Don't get me wrong, you did great in both games but you might have turned them into wins in another tier 9 heavy.

i have played all tier 9 heavies, most of them on my own account, some on test server some on friend's accounts, to see what they are capable of, Yes i do agree that my decision in the first game led to a defeat, and then again my play in the second led to a draw from a pointless situation where the team fell... plus those are just the 2 games i decided to show, when winning this tank doesnt seem so great, becouse there is no time to reload-shoot all that u got!

at this point where we got TDs with 300 pen + autoloaders aswell as meds who spam HEAT, armoring is not a factor, E75 or M103, even ST-I would fall so much faster, becouse they rely on their armor!
gun elevation sux, gun depression is satisfying, i got all the chinese tanks, and i can deffinately say it is ok... even OBJ268 has less!

the tank is not working for those who cant handle the fact that you need to plan your actions, plus the 2 games i show have an exp number i liked at that point, winning is not as impressive becouse you dont have time to reload-shoot when your team is winnin it.. but cant always rely on them, my goal is to earn as much exp possible, win or lose... i believe this tank can do that perfectly  (77 games, 51% win rate, >910< average exp/battle!)

Amexx #20 Posted 29 November 2013 - 10:38 AM

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Im actually surprised that you are whining about gun depresion and not about elevation lol. But still you cant have everything...