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Zz_XxXx_WoT_P1MP_xXxX_zZ #1 Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:10 AM

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Would you classify people who play lower tier OP tanks such as the T18, Tetrach, Cruiser III, Mini Maus, KV-1S, SU-26 (Before update) and so on as noobs?

You see people with "insane" win ratios and see they have 1k battles in a Cruiser III with a 94% win ratio.... It's like they only play that tank for good stats and not for fun.

Would you say they are good players or stat whore noobs?

xnz #2 Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:16 AM

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I really don't care.

Raikan13 #3 Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:18 AM

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I play my KV-1 for money earning not statpadding,actually KV-1 brings down my average DPB :harp:

How_hard_can_it_be #4 Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:18 AM

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There are 2 types of seal bashers:
1. They excel in their 1-4 tier OP tank, however, they maintain their good stats in high tier tanks. They probably want fun after stressful battles in their X tier tanks but mainly all they care about is efficiency.
2. Roflstomping at low tiers, on big tanks they suck. To keep their stats look good, they dedicate themself to mindless seal clubbing. Not cool

H311fi5h #5 Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:32 AM

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Well, as said before, there are many different kinds of "sealclubbing".
When i check a profile and someone has 3000 M4 Derp (not that op anymore) games out of his 10000, that is just stat padding at the cost of beginners.

On the other hand there is sealclubbing to grind crews or let off some steam once in a while. Let's take myself for example: I have to drive T1 Cunningham to get my crew to >200% cause i want to use it for TC and ESL, so i got no choice but to bash newbies.

Edited by H311fi5h, 17 July 2013 - 11:41 AM.


Dongfeng_division #6 Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:33 AM

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Calling seal clubbers "noobs" only shows that you have no idea who "noob" is, and much like everyone else you throw the word around as a general insult.

If you don't like seal clubbers you can call them bullies or whatever else, but enough of this "noob" talk.


Myself, I call seal clubbing "play for fun". Although some do it only to improve stats.

Edited by Dongfeng_division, 17 July 2013 - 11:33 AM.


Flopf #7 Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:37 AM

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How is this relevant to anything?

Zz_XxXx_WoT_P1MP_xXxX_zZ #8 Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:45 AM

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View PostFlopf, on 17 July 2013 - 11:37 AM, said:

How is this relevant to anything?

That's why it's in the Off Topic forum!

CipherGalmOne #9 Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:57 AM

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I wouldn't go as far as to call them noobs, and here's why.

Say you have someone at 1300wn7, a respectable, above average wn7. But he's played a total of 10K battles, of which 3000 in tier 2 tanks the likes of which you've mentioned then that's going to skew the results quite considerably if he's maybe a 1000 player on tier 9 and 10 whereas he can manage 2000 on tier 2. So if you play with him on tier 9/10 you might think, "oh this guy has 1300wn7, I can trust on him not being an arse and helping me out if I am in need". Whereas with a 1000wn7 player that already becomes a very unlikely gamble. But if he's in reality just an average player when he plays tier 9 and 10, while his overall stats would say otherwise, I'd call it cheating other people into thinking you're a better player than you really are.

In the end it's all relative to each other, because if someone has played 30K battles of which 3K in the low tiers mentioned, then I doubt it'd skew the results to a large extent. But if someone has played 6K battles of which 3K in those low tiers, then you're really only being lied to.

H311fi5h #10 Posted 17 July 2013 - 12:01 PM

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One remark i'd like to add: Stat padding won't gain you anything. You may look better to other xvm-users, but the second someone checks your profile it will be obvious. Good clans don't select their players based on of wn6/7 or effi anyway (or at least not only), average damage on tier 8-10 tanks is much more important.

Of course there are sime players who don't care about end game content nor stats, they just like to stack up the top-gun medals. Since it is the developer's opinion that you deserve to own if you are skilled, there is not much you can do about them. When i meet one of the mentioned 3000-m4-games-players ingame i usually try to hunt them down for a challange. But most of the time beginners have to suffer and hopefuly learn at least something.

Edited by H311fi5h, 17 July 2013 - 12:03 PM.


LazyJustice #11 Posted 17 July 2013 - 12:07 PM

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View PostPirateBrest, on 17 July 2013 - 11:10 AM, said:

Would you classify people who play lower tier OP tanks such as the T18, Tetrach, Cruiser III, Mini Maus, KV-1S, SU-26 (Before update) and so on as noobs?

You see people with "insane" win ratios and see they have 1k battles in a Cruiser III with a 94% win ratio.... It's like they only play that tank for good stats and not for fun.

Would you say they are good players or stat whore noobs?

Well i play Tetrach,T2lt and T1 cu beacuse they are fun

jagdcommander #12 Posted 17 July 2013 - 12:14 PM

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View PostDongfeng_division, on 17 July 2013 - 11:33 AM, said:

Calling seal clubbers "noobs" only shows that you have no idea who "noob" is, and much like everyone else you throw the word around as a general insult.

If you don't like seal clubbers you can call them bullies or whatever else, but enough of this "noob" talk.


Myself, I call seal clubbing "play for fun". Although some do it only to improve stats.


Pretty much exactly what I was going to write. WoT is a game and if one group of people get fun killing and winning, that is no less valid than those who grind to get to tier X or those who play every game in one type of tank. Everyone plays for their own reason and no one else has a right to judge.

As for the obsession with stats .... whatever does it for you and there is nothing wrong if that is your incentive.

Bundin #13 Posted 17 July 2013 - 12:29 PM

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I couldn't care less to be honest. Calling them noobs is silly, they're the opposite of noobs: the most experienced tankers on the field. Personally, I don't see the fun in bashing new players battle after battle after battle, but I'm not into grindy games anyway. And I don't care about my stats much either :)

But to each his/her own. If they want to spend an afternoon/evening winning lots of low tier battles, I wish them good luck. And as long as there's not too many around, preventing real new players from enjoying most of their low tier battles, there's no real harm done, is there?

FailAccount #14 Posted 18 July 2013 - 09:52 PM

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T2 and 3 are great for crew training :) Eitherway I am a noob  :trollface:

mr3awsome #15 Posted 19 July 2013 - 08:06 AM

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I play my Tetrarch and Pz.35H735f to earn money, not to increase my stats.

GiraffeInATopHat #16 Posted 19 July 2013 - 11:53 AM

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I play lower teirs for fun most of the time. Sometimes just to have a good battle after high teir battles.

b1gb3ast #17 Posted 19 July 2013 - 11:54 AM

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First of, learn the difference between noobs, newbs, and nuubs:

noobs, or newbs, are poeple who are new to the game
nuubs are poeple who think they are pro but in reality are just still newbs. They are often times really ignorant.

e.g:Derp gets into low tier match because everyone hunts him down in higher tier matches for master tanker, because the object 263 is so rare. Derp starts match and gets low tiered MM in his T-70. The KV-1 dies first, and insults everyone else for being stupid and nuubs, and whenever derp wants to say something, the KV-1 will just tell him that he is a fagot that must "L2P".

Why? Cause KV-1 is higer tier, that's why! Whenever derp tells him this isn't his hiegest tier, the KV-1 tells him he is tier seven, duh, you stupid nuub! Derp gets frustrated and tells him he has a tier ten tank. The KV-1 doesn't believe him, and yadadada, the poor T-70 is suddenly a sealclubbing hacr!

Moral of the story: nuubs drive the KV-1, deal with it.
And the other part is that the KV-1 is a nuub. So are some sealclubbers. But poor sealclubbing derp is innocent.

Edited by b1gb3ast, 19 July 2013 - 11:56 AM.


OmaiGodman #18 Posted 19 July 2013 - 04:05 PM

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People who play on OP low-tier tanks aren't n00bs, they are statpadders. Good thing about statpadders in OP tanks is that, unlike n00bs, they often actually aid in getting your team the victory.

r3activ #19 Posted 23 July 2013 - 07:35 AM

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Well if they get fun out of winning every time at low tiers good for them.

I personally like seal clubbing at tier 9 but that's me :)

Klint_Izwudd #20 Posted 26 July 2013 - 11:59 AM

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I think they're having fun. Which is commendable, since most tend to forget that's one of the two objectives in the game.

The other is winning, which they help their team in doing. I'm sure few complains about clubbers when they appear at the top of their own list.




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