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Ovos #1 Posted 07 August 2013 - 02:16 PM

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Basically just wondering if this thing is actually any good, or enjoyable to play in anyway? From what I've seen it doesn't look too promising, either in stats; huge, not so great guns, generally very annoying research. That and I have yet to see one that has done anything other than die 1 minute into a game. I generally love light tanks, but I'm not so sure I want to waste 1.3mil on something that looks pretty bad. :)

Askorti #2 Posted 07 August 2013 - 03:42 PM

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Not really. It can perform good, it can deal some damage, but bear in mind, that most of the time you will curse this tank. I bought it and started playing it only because I hope than sooner than later WG will introduce RU251 and that it will be a good tank.

Eokokok #3 Posted 07 August 2013 - 03:53 PM

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People playing it like an active tier 7 scout will fail and die. But look at it again - it has better gun, better speed, better traverse, better side depression and better view range then lets say VK DB. And there are people that love that tank and call it a beast tier 7 med... Play this Panther as a med and you will have fun for sure. It can do some scouting, but flanking is what makes it really nice.

zomed #4 Posted 07 August 2013 - 03:56 PM

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I play the Auf Panther only to be able to research the future tier 8 german light tank. I play it only for daily doubles.
It is one of the or _the_ worst tank i have played in my 16K battles till now. It almost does not have gun, it does not have camo, it is big, its mobility is good for medium, bad for a light tank, ... . The only thing this tank can do is to ram other light tanks (including high tier french mediums).
Lets compare it to same tier T71. Auf Panther is bigger target, has less camo, has less view range, has less or same gun depression, has less firepower, has much less mobility. The only thing this FailPanther has is bigger armor. Oh yeah :-), we have 3 times as much armor as T71, great is it not? Well, good luck with that 50-100 mm effective armor against tier9-10 opponents that the match maker puts this unit aginst in the 95% of the battles. I will whisper you: it is worth nothing, any tank at that tier from any angle will penetrate all the times without worring about aiming.
Despite I consider myself a good player, usually being too rushy, in this tank my strategy is as follows: stay back, hope the rest of the team wins, assist in finishing enemy tanks when the battle is already decided - repeat until first victory of the day - continue till 140K exp is accumulated for the future tier8 german light tank.

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Ovos #5 Posted 07 August 2013 - 05:05 PM

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Alright, thanks. :) I guess I'll be skipping this tank for now, but will keep these things in mind if/when I do choose to purchase it.

Also, is this tier 8 German light a definite tank that will be released, or just a possibility/idea at the moment? I haven't heard anything of it before.

zomed #6 Posted 07 August 2013 - 05:33 PM

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View PostOvos, on 07 August 2013 - 05:05 PM, said:

Alright, thanks. :) I guess I'll be skipping this tank for now, but will keep these things in mind if/when I do choose to purchase it.

Also, is this tier 8 German light a definite tank that will be released, or just a possibility/idea at the moment? I haven't heard anything of it before.

Nothing is sure. But it seems quite probable.
It is expected to be the RU251.

zomed #7 Posted 07 August 2013 - 05:35 PM

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View PostEokokok, on 07 August 2013 - 03:53 PM, said:

it has better gun, better speed, better traverse, better side depression and better view range then lets say VK DB. And there are people that love that tank and call it a beast tier 7 med...

The comparison is not fair, because the VKDB has normal tier7 MM battle spread, while the AufPanther plays with the big boys, about 2 tier higher.

sawthumbz #8 Posted 08 August 2013 - 02:01 AM

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and despite what wiki says,quote it gets OCCASIONAL tier10 games, its a lie, it gets tier10games FREQUENTLY, so if you enjoy being 3tiers lower than everybody else in a tank thats as big as a  house with weak turret armour, and poorer viewing range than most other high tier scouts,,well make your own mind up,,,ive played it alot,,and get quite frustrated,,,but saying all that, if you land a tier 8or9 game and your team arent pubtards, its pretty good,i kind of like it, in a sick sort of way :amazed:

Edited by sawthumbz, 08 August 2013 - 03:19 AM.


Lancasthor #9 Posted 08 August 2013 - 12:29 PM

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Auf. P is definitely one of the most challenging vehicles i have played.
Even with five-skill-crew from 2801 and full equipment and consumables it manages to feel underdog in many situations.
Specially when compared to other scouts (excluding VK28 what is a solid brick also) in the scouting sports of moving and staying hidden. When played as medium, its just another tier VII in a up to tier X+ fight.

Still, occasionally overperforming and managing to shine with this "obsolete piece of junk" is one of the best things you can do with your pants on.
(only second to playing Auf.P awesomely without pants) Slamming a Batchat or T-54 to pieces with some movie-like downhill raming is something people dont expect you to achieve on "light" scout. Not even a tier VIII heavy is safe from at least 150 points of finishing humiliating damage when Auf.P applies its unsuspected silky touch.

Other noticable thing is how your value grows great deal the later the game you manage to survive (even better with full hp-pool) Dropping off slow or lonely targets without even being seen definitely gives some edge when the battlefield is full of wrecks and only few survivors decide the battle outcome.

beercritch #10 Posted 20 August 2013 - 02:36 PM

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Its horrible

You would do better to get a Leopard PTA or Leopard 1 and play these as a true scout. The do more damage, are faster and more agile, have better view range and equal/better camo.

Tazilon #11 Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:21 AM

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View Postsawthumbz, on 08 August 2013 - 02:01 AM, said:

and despite what wiki says,quote it gets OCCASIONAL tier10 games, its a lie, it gets tier10games FREQUENTLY, so if you enjoy being 3tiers lower than everybody else in a tank thats as big as a  house with weak turret armour, and poorer viewing range than most other high tier scouts,,well make your own mind up,,,ive played it alot,,and get quite frustrated,,,but saying all that, if you land a tier 8or9 game and your team arent pubtards, its pretty good,i kind of like it, in a sick sort of way :amazed:

Whoever wrote the wiki blurb on the Auf P was on drugs.  It is one of the worst write-ups I have seen on any tank.

Tazilon #12 Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:23 AM

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Besides leading to the Leopard 1, the Auf P is a fun tank to play.  It gets much more negative publicity than it deserves.  If you decide to get it, the one thing you SHOULD do is save up free XP and start it off with fully upgraded equipment.

_Agent_ #13 Posted 26 August 2013 - 06:28 PM

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I like this tank now, fully upgraded with camo net and binos and you can sit back at 450m and ping away.

Lancasthor #14 Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:15 AM

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View Post_Agent_, on 26 August 2013 - 06:28 PM, said:

I like this tank now, fully upgraded with camo net and binos and you can sit back at 450m and ping away.

Yes. German line is the coffeedrinkers choise.
With stack of crew skills you can change the binocs to optics too. Peek-a-spot turns way more profitable with SA/Recon/BIA bonuses. It also makes stalking "blind" targets bit more easier.

Btw, can anyone from test server confirm Konisch "rebalancing" affecting Auf.P also?

ApocalypseSquad #15 Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:25 AM

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Yes, AwfulPanther's Konish is also rebalanced in 8.8.

Akamati #16 Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:06 PM

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It is already a useless tank now and it will be specially after 8.8 patch

sawthumbz #17 Posted 31 August 2013 - 09:00 PM

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View PostTazilon, on 21 August 2013 - 01:21 AM, said:

Whoever wrote the wiki blurb on the Auf P was on drugs.  It is one of the worst write-ups I have seen on any tank.
well i did have a dank spliff,,so technically yes i was on drugs,,lol,,maybe its me but i get loads of tier10 games in awful panther,and if i get them so do other players

Edited by sawthumbz, 31 August 2013 - 09:00 PM.


GlN #18 Posted 02 September 2013 - 10:07 AM

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Terrible tank imo

Tazilon #19 Posted 03 September 2013 - 07:34 PM

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View Postsawthumbz, on 08 August 2013 - 02:01 AM, said:

and despite what wiki says,quote it gets OCCASIONAL tier10 games, its a lie, it gets tier10games FREQUENTLY, so if you enjoy being 3tiers lower than everybody else in a tank thats as big as a  house with weak turret armour, and poorer viewing range than most other high tier scouts,,well make your own mind up,,,ive played it alot,,and get quite frustrated,,,but saying all that, if you land a tier 8or9 game and your team arent pubtards, its pretty good,i kind of like it, in a sick sort of way :amazed:

The wiki write-up on this tank is horrid.  You should ignore almost everything it says about the tank.

tnk_x5000 #20 Posted 07 September 2013 - 02:17 AM

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Yes, it's not your typical light tank, nor is a typical medium. You can play medium or have more fun hinting scouts with the 10,5 cm. Howitzer and the 42 tones. I play scout hunter and flanker. I still occasionally scout, but it usually causes me a problem- you will need really good cover from ally weapons.

Scout hunting... I do it because scouts are vulnerable to HE shells, none of them has the ramming ability and because it's just fun- from the first battle with this tank I knew that a LOT of ramming is going to be done. Most light tanks are smart and will try to dodge you, but if you succeed to hit them- enjoy the satisfaction! If you want to see the full ramming glory of the tank, you will need a Light spall-liner (If only it was a middle spall-liner), Controlled impact skill and the Howitzer- after a frontal impact with a T-62A I caused 826 damage.

This tank is a light-medium hybrid tank in the game- it's non of them, and it's both. It gives a choice between two types of gameplay. But scout hunting can be powerfully upgraded.




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