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Lorraine 40t - Does anyone here like it? And why?

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Aicha #41 Posted 15 September 2013 - 11:51 AM

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Worst tank of all I ever had.

azenjood #42 Posted 22 September 2013 - 01:12 AM

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The Lorraine has the unique ability to lose 90% of it's hp when it's spotted for 3 seconds.
On paper this tank ain't so bad. It's faster then a t62a or a t54 with an autoloader gun able to do 1800 dmg a clip with decent penetration and a manageable 40 sec reload time.
But what is killing this tank is the combination of the following factors:
- huge profile
- low camo rating
- no armor whatsoever
- meeh gun depression
- 3 sec aiming time (longer then reload time in clip)
- 2,73 sec reload time in clip (as opposed to 2 sec on the t54e1)
- big bloom
- lowish alpha dmg per shot
(- turret ring gets taken out regularly)
Compared to the t54e1 the time required to empty your clip:
Lorraine 40t:
5*2,73+3 sec initial aim time = 16,65sec for 1800 dmg or 18 sec if you need to fully aim between shots = 108,1 // 100 dmg per sec in clip
t54e1:
3*2+2,9 initial aim time= 8,9 sec for 1560 dmg or 11,6 sec if you need to fully aim between shots = 175,3 // 134,5 dmg per sec in clip
When you combine all these factors you have a tank that needs a lot of exposure time to deal damage, while on the same time it's very ill-equipped to remain exposed for a long time. Even with Vstab and GLD it takes many precious seconds to aim the gun.
So in the end you're forced to snipe or support the first half of the match if you want to stay alive. Only by staying under the enemy radar or being bottom place on the enemy's hit list you are able to contribute to the battle in a meaningful way.
I do believe this tank needs a buff. The best way to do that is to improve the gun handling. With an aiming time of 2,3-2,5 sec and a buff to the accuracy on the move this tank would be a lot less frustrating to play.

Edited by azenjood, 22 September 2013 - 01:14 AM.


JPKERR #43 Posted 10 October 2013 - 03:04 PM

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T54E1 is clearly better than Lorraine. More armor, smaller, better damage per minute, better damage per shot, doesn't look like blue box with jeep tires. Lorraine will die before shooting half mag when meeting T54E1.

Lorraine should get better accuracy. Its s^%t in close fights, fine let it be sniper. Aim time is also terrible and should be fixed.
120mm gun with 5/4 rounds would also be nice.

Syllom #44 Posted 11 October 2013 - 08:52 PM

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View PostJPKERR, on 10 October 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

T54E1 is clearly better than Lorraine. More armor, smaller, better damage per minute, better damage per shot, doesn't look like blue box with jeep tires. Lorraine will die before shooting half mag when meeting T54E1.

Lorraine should get better accuracy. Its s^%t in close fights, fine let it be sniper. Aim time is also terrible and should be fixed.
120mm gun with 5/4 rounds would also be nice.

I'm afraid you are wrong in any aspec.Both tanks are very situational.A T54E1 wants the pros from a lorraine 40t and vice versa.But no doubt that lorraine is way way way damn harder to master it.Be my guest and play it and have a look at the american vehicles>medium section and witness the drama lamas about t54e1

Stewe_CZ #45 Posted 22 December 2013 - 10:31 AM

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I like it, it's fast and 1800 dmg for 15 seconds.. ;)

Look at my video, more than 6000 dmg



TimDogg #46 Posted 26 December 2013 - 01:14 AM

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If you have a good team that moves well in a group to the designated choke-point the Lorraine can be a fearsome thing, but you have to play second line only, or, if the chance is there, flank tanks that are concentrating elsewhere. The big issue is: It could have 10,000 hitpoints and still be shot to pieces before you empty your clip. It is a big paper box and you have a long reload to boot. 

 

It has very few redeeming features - bad gun depression, no time to hang about, yet wanting to empty your clip... I have had good games in it, but most of the time it disappoints. Very frustrating grind and, as some here point out: the worst tier 9 medium. 



Target1337 #47 Posted 14 January 2014 - 03:11 PM

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Lorraine is depressing... ( Mai prof pic is ironic xd )

 



MosOpinca #48 Posted 21 January 2014 - 12:03 PM

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First of all I'm an average Joe when it comes to playing .... not that many fights, decent player , not that much experience playing as a med driver . Most of my experience comes from heavies and TDs (scouts are fun too) ...

I never played Lorrraine before it was nerfed ( seeing of what is capable now , I imagine it was somenting like a T-Rex when it was T8) and in it's current state I find it a fun tank to play .... Why ? Because I enjoy a challenge , because I enjoy learning new things, because I enjoy variations in the game play style....And this is what the french med line offered me so far .


I see alot of complains from people who are by now used to the tanks having armour that can bounce a few shots  and increase survivability, tanks that are forgiving to a relaxed game play style ... I'm not going to debate the pros and cons of this tank's technical specs  (from my pov i would love an increase in gun depresion) , instead I would try to share a few tips I learned the hard way :

First of all :

- If you are the type that like certain tank just because they are "OP"

- if you play way to relaxed or way to tensed

- if you don't enjoy a challenge

- if you are unable to admit your mistakes and learn from them 

- if u have a low tolerance at being flamed

Then Lorraine is not the tank for you.

 

The first thing that you will do after a few games in this tank is try to forget all that you've learned from other type of tanks .... You cannot lead an attack , you cannot bounce shots, you have no gun depression so even the terrain will be your enemy ... You will be flamed ( mostly by idiots that can't understand why you will not die along with them) for being a coward , for being a noob etc . And yes at times you will get frustrated by the fact that you will get yourself in situation when you will be useless.

 

The grind to get top modules and gun on Lorraine will hopefully learn you that this is in no way your typical Rambo tank. It's made of paper tissues and any mistake results in death . But a fully researched Lorraine (like any other tank) will bring you joy once you understand it's role 

 

As a Lorraine driver your main role is to stay alive . Support the attack by sniping , stay safe (6th sense is a must) . Occasionally you might try to join a wolf pack but I say that is a bad ideea ( in most fights you will be the first to be focused -attacked and you will die first) . So .... stay safe, snipe, try to ambush a lone enemy that lost his way or is engaged in a 1vs1 battle . The end of a fight is where Lorraine shines. Having a close to full HP Lorraine near the end of the fight could be a major asset for your team ... Most of the enemies are crippled by now and from the coward sniper you can become the "FU crew" by applying the ninja way ... Hit and run. My advice is to always enter a battle with a full drum of shells and a well planed escape route

 

All in all while grinding a Lorraine you will learn patience , you will learn to be less impulsive and think twice before attacking someone, learn to make each shot count .....or you will learn nothing and become one of the one that flames the rest of the Lorraine drivers .

 

For me Lorraine was the tank I loved and hated the most . In general you will learn nothing and gain nothing without being in a challenging situation . Driving a Lorraine you will be in a constant state of danger and therefore you will start to better use your brain in a fight.



Tompa85 #49 Posted 22 January 2014 - 09:16 AM

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181 games in lorr and 50% win rate. This tank is good in right hands, it is paper tank so play it like that. 4 me is bether then t54e1

Rosetta_and_Philae #50 Posted 22 January 2014 - 12:58 PM

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I can play it fine, pity most Lorraine players are complete mongs.

Amkal #51 Posted 09 February 2014 - 05:50 PM

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I love my lorry now. It has insane burst potential and is very agile. I like it better than t54e1

WatchitBro #52 Posted 13 February 2014 - 08:32 PM

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I do not really understand your comments, I'm at 2300 / damage part and 63% of WR and 1050 xp means. 
It is clever, precise, fast, maneuverable. In short, a very good char what!

LisbonYoloer #53 Posted 16 February 2014 - 01:31 PM

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150 games so far... 57% win rate, hit ratio 77%, survive ratio 25%, max exp: 2088, max destroyed: 7, 193 destroyed enemy tanks, average exp 831

radius77 #54 Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:47 AM

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I did many tX grinds so far an now, as I approach BC, I find French LT/MT to be very nice and balanced, Lorr included.

I doesn't have armour but hell ya - would T54E1 bounce more from WTE or IS-7 or Foch ? I doubt.

The point of Lorr is the clip and speed. Stick to this, otherwise play T-54 with HEAT.

 



NefertumCz #55 Posted 03 March 2014 - 12:52 PM

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If you like amx 50100 then you will like this tank also. Its basicly copy of T8 only on steroids... faster nimble same gun tho but with better reload time what else you want from french tank anyway... you can play it as scout from time to time but not too often in the game :)

NoTears_OnlyDreamsNow #56 Posted 16 March 2014 - 11:47 AM

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View PostNefertumCz, on 03 March 2014 - 01:52 PM, said:

If you like amx 50100 then you will like this tank also. Its basicly copy of T8 only on steroids... faster nimble same gun tho but with better reload time what else you want from french tank anyway... you can play it as scout from time to time but not too often in the game :)

 How you can compere this to 50100.. it really is nothing to compere... it get worse MM with same gun that 50100 but gun doesnt work nearly as good as it works on 50100 even it has same specs, but its much more inaccurate. IT is more sluggish than 50100 and bigger.



indipuk #57 Posted 19 March 2014 - 07:54 PM

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This tank lacks burst dmg to empty clip and take down enemies fast. It is fine only if I can find meatshield for me and enemies ignore me. Then lor can be quite satisfying.

ItSmEaGaiN #58 Posted 12 April 2014 - 06:43 PM

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I cant believe ppl are so negative about the Lorrie! I used to play the 1390 very agressively about 20k exp away from lorr. 40t and it obviously didnt work out as well as I always hoped. Then I got the lorrie, used the same agressive play style (somewhere around the middle of the battle) and I got great games from it. 

GLHF hope everyone getting the lorrie is just as happy about it

 

btw: It is comparable to the 50100, the gun feels like having better accuracy and the mobility makes you get more effective shots in on your targets.



Unlucky_kat #59 Posted 12 April 2014 - 08:45 PM

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View Postxxxgun, on 02 September 2013 - 01:31 PM, said:

I stupidly sold my Type 59 to make space for this POS in the garage. I've been one shot in it more times than I can remember and I've not had it long. I've had to completely change the style play; stay back and try to snipe rather than trying to make a gap for the heavies. Any shot to the side, regardless of what it comes from, is liable to kill you.

This is why you don't sell premium tanks(at least the valueable ones) and try it out on the test server before you do it on the real server.

 

Anyways I think it is a pretty good medium tank(if you can flank the enemy at mid to late in the games it is rewarding) but it isn't as good as t54e1. 



Pokemaster99 #60 Posted 28 April 2014 - 08:24 PM

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Good tank, but it depends on luck :blinky:





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