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Heinkle #21 Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:34 AM

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Im surprised WG would allow such a faux pas against their precious Soviet tanks.
I wonder how the Object 140, T62A and Object 907 will compare when they are all present on the battlefield. Could make an interesting platoon of three.

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Squadman45 #22 Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:52 AM

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I refer that in game Object 140 is a copy of the T-62A in practically all aspects, armament, movility and armor, main diferences between then are armor (i feel they invert armor, T-62A is stronger in hull down and object 140 no but has better hull to stay in open) and turret position because object 140 has turret as T-54 (and his copies) more in the middle of the hull that for me is a bad thing specially in urban terrain.
At least WG could change the armament in object 140 and create something like 121 with a gun based in damage per shoot and no on ROF... why not leave the actual T-62A gun exclusive on it and for object 140 add other gun with better penetration, more damage per shoot BUT slower ROF and maybe accurancy and aiming time??? of course well balanced to compensate.
And if they leave object 140 as tier 10... tier 9 could be T-55 then???
I dont dislike object 140 but maybe add a tank that is practically the same as actual tier 10 med...
A platoon of the 3 tier 10 soviet meds is practically same i dont see at least the 2 regular tanks be a complement of each other... they are based in fast low damage guns very movile thanks to low ground resistance and an armor ... well, here object 140 is better to fight in movement facing enemy than T-62A but if rush is stoped and you cant flank T-62A performance could be better thanks to a turret harder to hit on his weakspots.

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FadetoB1ack #23 Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:43 PM

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View PostMaxTroll, on 15 August 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

Right now it just looks like a T62a replacement if your T62a gets locked out for clanwars.

Very disappointing, T90, very disappointing indeed.  Why is it always you bringing me bad news, you downer.
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View PostBastor, on 15 August 2013 - 07:30 AM, said:

Keep in mind that stats aren't always descriptive of the final product. When I saw IS-6 on paper it looked horrible but I love it atm.

Still there might be something we are missing?

It might have a researchable engine?

Keep in mind that the ASAP video mentioned that the tank will be speedy like the T-54, meaning it should either have epic hidden stats (literally gliding over terrain having impossibly low resistance) or have a researchable engine.

If it doesn't....well I'll still get it but I have OCD so I don't count. It wouldn't be worth it.

I still hope we're missing something.
Stats ARE always fully descriptive of the product as long as you know ALL the variables of the stats that could possibly change the outcome.
In this instance using basic wikipedia and being able to understand the numbers made almost all the difference. The only stats that are truly hidden could be the terrain resistance and that on the t62a is already quite superb, they can't make this one fly around like a superman. WoT may be unrealistic but there is a certain point at which the developers have to stop creating magic.
As for the researchable engine or gun or whatever else (just not the radio) that is a very interesting idea because right now this tank is clearly worse than the T62A and even then it hasn't got anything that differentiates it from other vehicles. Perhaps that would make the difference but even then, having a worse turret is just plain bad, full stop when it is so vital for the gameplay on the t62a.

Cravone #24 Posted 22 August 2013 - 01:16 PM

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So basically, I have a T-62A now, and there is no point of getting the obj 140, except if my clan ever get to landing battles and they use only medium tactics (because I have 9 tier 10s already), and my tank gets frozen.
Thought on the video they said the gun would make it unique. I thought they meant something like a 2 shell autoloader. Complete rip off. Not even worth getting the T-54 back to grind it. I can just imagine conversations in general chat: "object 140 or T-62A", and the only thing that matters on that will be how much xp you need for them.
The sad thing is, I would get it because im a completionist. If I have a tier 9, I must research all tier 10s from it and own those tier 10s.

Edited by Cravone, 22 August 2013 - 01:17 PM.


Tank_killer99 #25 Posted 24 August 2013 - 06:27 AM

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View PostTheodore, on 15 August 2013 - 03:48 PM, said:

leaks failed, 700bhp engine appeared later, available for Object 432/T-64.
this source has the 700bhp and 64kph top speed  
http://xn----7sbb5ah...my/ta/140.shtml

Edited by Tank_killer99, 24 August 2013 - 12:05 PM.


siramra #26 Posted 24 August 2013 - 07:03 AM

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It has lower profile then the T-62A and better gun depress.
It has a high right of fire. Drove around on the testserver on Himmelsdorf at max speed....shooting on the move was no problem. Turned and slided,turning the gun around and then shot.....almost no dispersion of aimcircle.
Shooting on the move felt like what the M48A1 used to be.
So all in all they nerfed the M48 for this ability but will put a Russian tank ingame that can do that very good.
At the moment this tank is very op.....exept for the fact that everything pens.

rasfo #27 Posted 24 August 2013 - 12:41 PM

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after few games on test,  there s amost no real difference to t62a

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I made a gif for comparison the size of T62a with Obj 140.
What should i say. The Obj 140 is small, rly small. And the camo on this thing is just great. I use my old T50-2 crew in it and was able to snipe on 380m without any bush and dont get scouted.

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Zamieszki #29 Posted 24 August 2013 - 12:49 PM

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Im sorry but this tank makes t-62a (and other t10 mediums) obsolete.
Why would you play the old russian tier 10?
New one has gun depression (!) and can actually go hulldown.

MarkR17 #30 Posted 24 August 2013 - 12:54 PM

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Uhm, yeah, this tank is very similar to the T-62A
Accuracy and aim time is very slightly worse, but the difference isnt noticeable in practice. Plus the gun depression is slightly better, but not that much.
Not good enough for hulling down.
Its smaller too, but it also comes with one big flaw, these two tumors on the turret.
In practice, it plays very much like a T-62A
Nothing special here, a T-62A clone with some differences. Might get some appeal by clans when the T-62A is locked.
EDIT: Actually feels faster than the T-62A too.

Edited by MarkR17, 24 August 2013 - 12:55 PM.


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Made a few rounds with the Object140 and the soft stats are better than the ones of the T62A. Smaller tank, better camo value und better gun depression. Mobility, accuracy on the move are nearly the same. Only the turret rotation feels a bit more sluggish, than the turret of the T62A. The Object feels more like a T54 and I think, that's what most of the russian med players wanted.

Rebuying the T54 and starting the Obejct140 grind. T62A is an excellent tank, but the Object140 is a bit better. (until they nerf that tank 2-3 patches later.)

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View PostZamieszki, on 24 August 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

Im sorry but this tank makes t-62a (and other t10 mediums) obsolete.
Why would you play the old russian tier 10?
New one has gun depression (!) and can actually go hulldown.

Nope, it cannot.

If you are not a complete failure of a sniper, those 2 tumors are very easy to hit.

Zamieszki #33 Posted 26 August 2013 - 04:07 PM

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View Post__ArkAngeI__, on 26 August 2013 - 11:10 AM, said:

Nope, it cannot.
Yup, it can.

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View PostZamieszki, on 26 August 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:

Yup, it can.
No, it can't. But how would you know? You have yet to play tier 10 with the dozens of accurate guns and actually competent players in it that are capable of aiming.

Gvozdika #35 Posted 26 August 2013 - 05:27 PM

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I'm thinking of getting my first T10 medium (either the T-62 or Object) - so have been playing the two of them intensively since the test began. Having played the Obj 140 and T-62A on test - it seems to just 'flow' better. Maybe it's the straight-line speed (5kph doesn't sound much but it seems to make a difference when running around) - but it seems to be better at roving around shooting up targets at medium range than the 62A. For the set-piece duel hiding in gulleys and making use of turret armour - the T-62A is better on account of a harder turret roof.
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However, for darting from point-to-point - taking shots as you go; I think the Obj 140 seems to slightly edge out. The turret cupolas are a) not THAT big when you compare them other tanks' (e.g. T110) and b) pretty hard to hit when you're doing what a medium should be doing 90 percent of the time (moving). I also like the lower sihouette - although it isn't that much lower than the T-62 it seems to make for a harder target.
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I'd call it a T-54's mobility/flanking speed combined with a Tier 10 gun and the accuracy to land plenty of hits in a short space of time - I may well use the 200K or so XP saved on the T-54 to get the Obj 140 as soon as test hits live (assuming it isn't 'adjusted' too much by WG).

Edited by Gvozdika, 26 August 2013 - 05:29 PM.


SPETNAZ93 #36 Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:12 PM

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hopefully there won't be any unpleasant surprises rebalancing the already existing vehicles.

Svartur77 #37 Posted 27 August 2013 - 07:49 AM

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Only had time for a couple of test runs. So far I prefare the T-62. It felt like it had worse ground resistance when I drove around on different terrain.

I may be wrong. Gonna try it some more.

Definately a good medium though.

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Here are some more opinions from US players, some of them played 60+ games.
http://forum.worldof...-62a-downgrade/

Bastor #39 Posted 27 August 2013 - 02:06 PM

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I don't understand one thing - couldn't they have changed a few more things?

The Obj. 140 just seems too similar.

I think they messed something up. XD

They could have at least done something like the 121. A high alpha, slow RoF gun on ...well basically the same tank. That would have made for some variation.

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View PostZamieszki, on 24 August 2013 - 12:49 PM, said:

Im sorry but this tank makes t-62a (and other t10 mediums) obsolete.
Why would you play the old russian tier 10?
New one has gun depression (!) and can actually go hulldown.
T62A can hull down, 5 degrees is not that bad at all and 1 degree difference of the object is nothing while the turret of the object is WAY worse. When playing against TDs with 300 pen and gold shells flying everywhere the T62A is the only medium that can truly hull down. Object cannot do it reliably at all.




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