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D4nunax_ #41 Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:20 PM

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5 degrees vs 6 degrees means 20% better. If i had 1 coin for every situation when 1 degree could of get me a sure kill, not to mention sure hit, i'd be having a lot of coins.

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View PostPinkFloyd1965, on 27 August 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:

5 degrees vs 6 degrees means 20% better. If i had 1 coin for every situation when 1 degree could of get me a sure kill, not to mention sure hit, i'd be having a lot of coins.

It means nothing, if you cannot hull down.

And you cannot hull down with those 2 tumors.

Same reason why M48/60 cannot hull down.

FadetoB1ack #43 Posted 28 August 2013 - 03:27 PM

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If you guys could download WoT Tank Viewer and point the wot path in the settings to the test then you will be able to look at the vehicles from the test, even the ones only being played by supertesters.

Furthermore in tank options on the right you can select collision in the tank mesh menu which brings you up the armour model. Compare the armour of the turrets of the t62a and the object 140 and you can see that not only does the object have 2 easily penned 160mm cupolas but it also has 30mm at the top of the turret meaning that any caliber 3x the armour thickness in the game will auto pen that area and that's pretty much all the guns you will be fighting against.
Also, if you look slightly above the 240mm at the bottom it's 183 and not really angled too well, that will get penned reliably once you turn your turret just a little bit from the enemy, meaning you have to face the enemy to get bounces. The T62A turret even at the top (which is still very important) is way, way better. Being hull down in a T62A is what the tank is all about, you take that away and the tank is garbage. The object may have better speed and possibly even stabilisation on the move but that means nothing to me - the turret is everything. Also, 1 degree more gun depression makes just above no difference at all, especially when you can't hull down because of your crap turret.

bombuhr #44 Posted 11 September 2013 - 11:39 AM

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Anyone else notice how accurate the Object 140 is while shooting on move?

puNkd #45 Posted 11 September 2013 - 12:52 PM

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Just to ask: I got now the XP on my T54 today and want to know which to get?
T62a is a really nice tank and on sale for 4 million credits.
On the other hand the Object 140 might not be researched via T54 in the near future.
Can someone who got them both  give me an advice :( I really dont know which one to get at the moment.

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Played it today. A dream come true TBH. It's everything i wanted the t62a to be after I finished grinding t54 (and it dissapointed me so much that I kept playing t54 more frequently than t62a). Following tanks dinged me on my frontal upper plate :
Leopard1, Batchat 25t, JgPz E100, Obj 704 and t110e4 (some even several times, thought only 9 games played, while over 100 games with t62a I dont remember a ding on my upper plate, only penetrations).
Ofcourse with help of a bit of angling.
Better depression helps when moving over rocky terrain or trying to sneek up on someone, fire than run away and I dont need to mention that 5kmph BETTER top speed means you get to places alot faster.

Really depends on your style of play. Obj 140 is better suited for my style, thought frankly I'm not one to give advices since I love my Leopard 1 and prefer AMX 50b over T57 heavy, so you need to know which one is YOUR cup of tea.

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View PostpuNkd, on 11 September 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:

Just to ask: I got now the XP on my T54 today and want to know which to get?
T62a is a really nice tank and on sale for 4 million credits.
On the other hand the Object 140 might not be researched via T54 in the near future.
Can someone who got them both  give me an advice :( I really dont know which one to get at the moment.
Hi, it's a bit too early to say to be honest.
But I can give you a few hints.
I read somewhere that the Object 140 is a direct evolution of the T-54. It's slightly more agile than the T62a.
FTR blogg Q&A stated that the one 140 should be always available via T-54 in the tech tree. But like you said, you can't really trust that.
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This is a personal opinion and can't back it up with facts.
From most of the games I've played in the T62a it burns every game.
I've not had that yet with the Object 140. BUT i've not played enough games with it yet to warrant such a statement. It's just not happened during test server or the few games I just played on the live server.
So far the Object 140 seem to hit anything you want to on the move. Just on erlenberg I locked on a T28 prototype about 200m away going full speed sideways from him.
4/4 shots hit and he died. Naturally RNG trolled the crap out of him and favored me, but this happens nearly every game so It must have good stats for it. Just like the T62a does. Only slightly better (?).
The actual driving of the 140 reminds more of the T-54.
Long range sniping:
140 has 2 weakspots on top of the turret. T62a has one.
I just think I need a lot more games to give a proper feedback, but let me just say this:
You can't go wrong choosing any of them.
Knowing what i know now... 140 is probably more preferable to my playstyle. But I'm a real medium fan so i'll always grind for all of them :)
All in all I like them both.
Edit:
Forgot the T62a is on sale at the moment.
What are you waiting for? go grab it then grab the Object 140 later.

Edited by bombuhr, 11 September 2013 - 01:59 PM.


Bobbydancer #48 Posted 12 September 2013 - 06:23 PM

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So far the best thing about this tank is that you can run it all day long(cause its a t62). Worst thing are all those crits. Modul damage and fire all the time, has to be the first med I installed spallliner in ever. And by needing that you miss either rammer or stabalizer.

dodjavola #49 Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:39 AM

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well i realise that obj 140 s turett has that weak spot on top of it and you can pen it with a 160 pen ist 30 mm tick and those two big cupolas but t62 has 216 mm on top so it can bounce up to 350 pen and has only 1 small cupola which is hard to hit .

Where_is_the_exit #50 Posted 13 September 2013 - 10:47 AM

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Fire fire fire, seems to be happening every second game.

Shuko #51 Posted 13 September 2013 - 01:33 PM

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View PostWhere_is_the_exit, on 13 September 2013 - 10:47 AM, said:

Fire fire fire, seems to be happening every second game.

Yeah, I noticed the same thing. I didnt play that many battles last night, but I got double fire in 3 matches. All shots were to the front. It's as bad as the front engined FV215.

Seegson #52 Posted 16 September 2013 - 09:00 PM

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Was suprised to see this shot on top being a pen.
The tank that shot me was a E-75 it has 246/311(premium) penetration.
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Edited by myst99, 16 September 2013 - 09:04 PM.


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Ihave also notised alot of fires from the fueltank. And my ammorack sems to break all the time.

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View Postmyst99, on 16 September 2013 - 09:00 PM, said:

Was suprised to see this shot on top being a pen.
The tank that shot me was a E-75 it has 246/311(premium) penetration.
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Top of the turret on this tank is practically an auto-pen zone. You can get the full details here.

Edited by CuddlyPanda, 17 September 2013 - 10:57 AM.


General_Power_Donkey #55 Posted 18 September 2013 - 11:54 AM

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The turret of the Object 140 is NOT an issue. Speed, agility, gun depression makes this tank one of the best T10 meds, if not the best t10 med.

103 games so far, all random, and 62% win. Is it superior to the T62A? To me gun depression is everything. And the weak spots of the turret can be worked around.

I can side hug any other tank, inlcuding heavies and survive. And bounce like hell.

Arkhell #56 Posted 18 September 2013 - 01:41 PM

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buddy of mine has this thing and we found out this tank is nearly the second comming of jezus since it hardly gets slowed down by water at all, it shears over bad terrain like jezus walked over water  :trollface:

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this thing catches fire a LOT!

CrazyLovex #58 Posted 29 September 2013 - 12:38 PM

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View PostT90_TANK, on 14 August 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:


Gun depression is not shown but the turret size and positioning of the gun indicate bad gun depression just the same as on t62a, i'd be surprised if it were any different at all.

T-62a           -5 degrees
object 140    -6 degrees
source: wiki

so 1 degree better...meh :sceptic:

gomolj #59 Posted 29 September 2013 - 01:02 PM

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View PostCrazyLovex, on 29 September 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

T-62a    -5 degrees
object 140 -6 degrees
source: wiki

so 1 degree better...meh :sceptic:

No, it is not "meh". I dont know exactly what, is it the turret position or the height of the tank, but something about the tank makes the object's -6 degrees feel like it is light years better then the T-62. That tank just has so much more workable gun depression. It is a far superior tank compared to the T-62. I have both. Have 750 battles on the T-62 and almost 240 on ther Object.

Object is faster, makes it easier to grab key positions

Object has better armor, at least the trash tanks are somthing you can bully.

Object has better cammo

On top of all this, the object has workable gun depression.. Get hull down, and there is no tank in this game that you cant butcher.

The turret weak spots can be worked around, the gun difference is also workable. Lets be honest here, that "weak" turret is still better than almost any other tier 10 mediums. That "weaker" gun stats are still as good if not better then almost any other tier 10 medium.

All in all, the Object is much better then the T-62, at least for me. I have 54.5% w/r in T-62 and 62% on the object 140. That tank is pure joy to play.

gomolj #60 Posted 29 September 2013 - 04:54 PM

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Would like to add just one more thing to the whole weak turret argument. Yes it has 2 cupolas on the top, yes the whole turret top is a weak spot, but.. For every penetration on the turret of this tank, I get at least 20 bounces. That fact alone makes this turret superior to almost all other tier 10 mediums.




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