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VK2801 is true nerfboat of the year Y/N. ?

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Poll: vk2801 nerfboat of the year, or maybe even of all wot history (81 members have cast votes)

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vk2801 is nerfboat of the years, or maybe even in all wot history (other lights too)

  1. Yes, nerfhited badly. I bet - nerfings will be continued too (77 votes [95.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 95.06%

  2. No. It wasnt ever nerfed. (4 votes [4.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.94%

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savizudis #1 Posted 12 September 2013 - 10:46 PM

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VK2801 is true nerfboat of year. Or maybe even of the years in history of wot. We all agree to that ( i hope there is no awkward thinking here).Nerfs since 8.4 v till now is going on every update on and on..Lets just shortly vote. Y - Yes. Everyone who came here, knows this, its only true option if u lasy to read just vote Yes cause it is a fact that we agree all.4 versions in a row of nerfs, and not like one nerf in one verion, oh no no no, - multiple nerfs in every version.. lol


*sort off petition to stop nerfings on vk2801 and others, and fix this nonsence as community wants, as community and plays this game not fkn defs

Edited by savizudis, 13 September 2013 - 08:48 AM.


BlueDaedricDragon #2 Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:10 PM

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Marder II says hello.

But yeah the tank is becoming worse and worse after every patch they really need to stop nerfing it. I do not know what WG are going to do with light tanks now. Its not just the VK that got hit badly(T-50 and T-50-2 is gone now). As well as a nerf to the HEAT shells of the Type 62. Seems like light tanks are becoming more and more useless each patch.

I really hope they somehow fix light tank gameplay, because its slowly going down the drain.

savizudis #3 Posted 13 September 2013 - 08:55 AM

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Yes, artys almost gone, but i may agree ~5+ artys were maybe way too much (scouts were only one counter measure -  not like only one scout). Now situation is different 1-2 artys max, so i bet they think scouts arent needed at all... i may disagree: even 1 scout is a must, just that doesnt change anything why the f*ck scouts are hited so much by nerfs. 1 scout msut be good, not damn useless boat... Old times were so agresive wiht those artys heavies and scouts batles... Now all goes almost only arround meds and heavies...

HariSeldon #4 Posted 13 September 2013 - 09:56 AM

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I hope they nerf more, only to see what more they could do. It's not like they could fix the tank, they cant, scout role is broken, arty nerf hit scouts, and wg didnt see that coming, because they also nerf the lights.

Light may have options without the nerfs, thay could scout for the nerf arties and the rest of the team. But now they are all broken, t50, mt25 is a joke, vk it's just broken, ....the only light with somekind of success are the damage dealers ones, nothing to do with a scout.


Scouts, not light, are dead; if you want to drive fast tanks that could help the team, the wz ones are there. Fast, nimble, nice guns, high camo (for the scout you do time to time) and nice hp pool. The end of the line scouts are dead, chafee have it's days to an end too.

Ham_Shank #5 Posted 13 September 2013 - 11:30 AM

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Wg keeps nerfing it until they are happy because what they say at HQ "We are not happy until you are unhappy" or "working as indented" Accept it that Vk2801 is dead and move on.

bosqit #6 Posted 13 September 2013 - 04:36 PM

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there was ninja nerf - it is not only slower rotating, but also turret rotation speed is lower and seems that ground resistance increased.

I have a feeling that also accuracy dropped again... this romance will be over today! SOLD.

savizudis #7 Posted 23 September 2013 - 12:01 AM

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View PostHam_Shank, on 13 September 2013 - 11:30 AM, said:

Wg keeps nerfing it until they are happy because what they say at HQ "We are not happy until you are unhappy" or "working as indented" Accept it that Vk2801 is dead and move on.


its too hard :( u know then u choose women for u whole life u aint changing that ..i liked to play tank that was like exception taht only rare poeple played it, anyway 1.5 y with only one tank, it was direct pick and all tiem only tank, its realy hard to drop it off - german crew 4skills... and no german scout,

em ..idk. Is there posibility to transfer german crew to say wz tank ? is that expensive, (...) possible at all w.o., gold ?

Ham_Shank #8 Posted 23 September 2013 - 06:36 AM

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View Postsavizudis, on 23 September 2013 - 12:01 AM, said:

its too hard :( u know then u choose women for u whole life u aint changing that ..i liked to play tank that was like exception taht only rare poeple played it, anyway 1.5 y with only one tank, it was direct pick and all tiem only tank, its realy hard to drop it off - german crew 4skills... and no german scout,

em ..idk. Is there posibility to transfer german crew to say wz tank ? is that expensive, (...) possible at all w.o., gold ?

no idea if ya can put them to Wz, ask senior players. If ya want to be a scout buy Leopard, it is like VK28 but better.

ServiceStud #9 Posted 26 September 2013 - 01:45 AM

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Worst nerf is... E-25

That thing (which I luuurve!) is faster, smaller, more maneuverable and generally does everything better. Only thing 2801 had going is the howitzer, for arty hunting.

Zarax999 #10 Posted 26 September 2013 - 10:10 AM

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Lights needs to be reformed, maybe one day WG will see the light...

savizudis #11 Posted 18 November 2013 - 10:37 AM

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nerfboat..

molan1976 #12 Posted 04 February 2014 - 01:53 PM

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Only usable LT at this point is T71 and AMX1390, the rest are "KIA".

 

I loved VK28 once, and my lovely T50-2...but nowadays scouts in tie 10 are really MT like BatChat, and those two left, are there because they can actually shoot and do somthing, unlike VK28 and MT25 - what a joke, MT25 total crap just like the VK.


Edited by molan1976, 05 February 2014 - 09:12 AM.


Terracide #13 Posted 16 February 2014 - 04:33 AM

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View Postmolan1976, on 04 February 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:

Only usable LT at this point is T71 and AMX1390, the rest are "KIA".

 

I loved VK28 once, and my lovely T50-2...but nowadays scouts in tie 10 are really MT like BatChat, and those two left, are there because they can actually shoot and do somthing, unlike VK28 and MT25 - what a joke, MT25 total crap just like the VK.

 

Stop whining and learn to play the tank.

Whining about a tank with only 370 battles in it is sad.

Wake me when you pass 1K battles in the VK 28.01... 



hucca1 #14 Posted 16 February 2014 - 02:23 PM

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WZ lights are also playable.

Tazilon #15 Posted 22 February 2014 - 03:53 AM

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View Postmolan1976, on 04 February 2014 - 12:53 PM, said:

Only usable LT at this point is T71 and AMX1390, the rest are "KIA".

 

I loved VK28 once, and my lovely T50-2...but nowadays scouts in tie 10 are really MT like BatChat, and those two left, are there because they can actually shoot and do somthing, unlike VK28 and MT25 - what a joke, MT25 total crap just like the VK.

 

You are right - they are a joke.

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/629343#mountain_pass-tazilon-vk_2801

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/627229#airfield-tazilon-vk_2801

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/619690#malinovka-tazilon-vk_2801

 

 



robw09 #16 Posted 28 March 2014 - 05:43 PM

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Tazilon, value your opinion here.  What is the VK like now?  I play a lot in my T71 and more recently the WZ lights.  My Chaffee only gets the occassional outing nowdays, the VK was one of the T5 lights I was working towards just before they nerfed and then I did not bother.  Am I missing out or not?

Tazilon #17 Posted 30 March 2014 - 01:05 AM

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View Postrobw09, on 28 March 2014 - 05:43 PM, said:

Tazilon, value your opinion here.  What is the VK like now?  I play a lot in my T71 and more recently the WZ lights.  My Chaffee only gets the occassional outing nowdays, the VK was one of the T5 lights I was working towards just before they nerfed and then I did not bother.  Am I missing out or not?

 

It can't carry the way it used to but it is still fun and capable.



Sokhzyf #18 Posted 02 April 2014 - 10:44 AM

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VK2801 is nerfed to the ground :( I miss my old good fellow before this happend... I think it wont change in near future... 

IRSanchez #19 Posted 02 April 2014 - 12:22 PM

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VK 28.01H is "dead" on EU - good players turned away from it.

 

You can get Ace tanker badge with measly base 1183 XP (that's how much i needed)

Just compare this to Chaffee, where 1089 base XP gave me only 2nd class badge.

 

EDIT Wotreplays shows that ~1450 base XP is enough for ace tanker on Chaffee. Still the point is valid - its much more than fat leopard.

 

There must be a reason, why Fatleopard is (almost) not played at all by good players, while they still keep running the Chaffe (as both can be considered T6). Those Chaffee unicorns are the real reason, why mastery badge requirements are so inflated.

 

Fat leo is just obsolete, simple as that. It requires too much effort (to shine) and still gives not much profit.

If the VK28.01H was really good, it would get much more love - not only from few guys, like Tazilon...


Edited by IRSanchez, 02 April 2014 - 12:51 PM.


Pensionist #20 Posted 02 April 2014 - 03:47 PM

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View PostIRSanchez, on 02 April 2014 - 01:22 PM, said:

VK 28.01H is "dead" on EU - good players turned away from it.

 

You can get Ace tanker badge with measly base 1183 XP (that's how much i needed)

Just compare this to Chaffee, where 1089 base XP gave me only 2nd class badge.

 

EDIT Wotreplays shows that ~1450 base XP is enough for ace tanker on Chaffee. Still the point is valid - its much more than fat leopard.

 

There must be a reason, why Fatleopard is (almost) not played at all by good players, while they still keep running the Chaffe (as both can be considered T6). Those Chaffee unicorns are the real reason, why mastery badge requirements are so inflated.

 

Fat leo is just obsolete, simple as that. It requires too much effort (to shine) and still gives not much profit.

If the VK28.01H was really good, it would get much more love - not only from few guys, like Tazilon...


had exactly the same thought this week - getting vk2801 acetanker happens quite regularly these days.






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