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daz606 #1 Posted 15 September 2013 - 10:25 AM

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Well,

This tank seems to have been ignored a little bit, so!

What a great little tank this is.

It can take very little damage, and it doesn't hit hard either.
But my last battle I took out a Tiger P, from 100% in 18 hits and took none myself.

The stats say the gun should be on the inaccurate side 0.41, but I've found it to be better than that.

I'm using it as a scout for the initial phase against higher tiers, I even managed to finish off an IS-3 on way to taking out their artillery.

Even against your own tier you cannot trade, a T-34-85 caused me a lot of grief. I got him but was badly busted up.

It IS fast, and it IS agile.

It's a keeper.

For qualification: I'm no purple player. I'm no expert and only have Mastery 2 on it. So imagine what a skilled player could do with it!!!!

zbing #2 Posted 15 September 2013 - 10:42 AM

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So far it doesn't look like a keeper to me tbh, it is fast and manoeuvrable but very fragile and lacks a punch. I might be wrong, though - 25 battles is not nearly enough to really get to know new tank.

Platypusbill #3 Posted 15 September 2013 - 01:17 PM

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TBH it looks like a rather bad tank. The front hull is no better than the T-34-85's because of the reduced slope, and the turret is trash (75mm basically flat armour all over, and a tall cupola on top). Gun depression sucks, which is really annoying when your gun relies on high RoF, and the gun is basically the same as the Sherman E8's, only it has like 20mm less APCR penetration. It's very mobile, but speed and agility is all it has really.

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daz606 #4 Posted 15 September 2013 - 02:53 PM

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And yet it performs.

I've read all the stats, and I agree with you.

But I'm also playing the tank and it does really well.
I just made it a priority to NOT get shot.
I hit when I can't get hit back.

Seems to work for me.

xCaptainObviousx #5 Posted 15 September 2013 - 05:10 PM

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What you don't see in the paper stats is the accuracy on the move and camo. It's a circler: use camo to get close and launch yourself at the enemy from an unexpected direction
I managed to circle a KT from 100% to 0 by going at him when he looked in another direction and being able to keep my speed while turning. The T-34-85 have a better gun but the chassie itself is worse.

Platypusbill #6 Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:50 PM

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View PostxCaptainObviousx, on 15 September 2013 - 05:10 PM, said:

What you don't see in the paper stats is the accuracy on the move...
Ah, good point. Just checked the values, it's actually got the lowest dispersion while moving of any tank before tier VIII (where the Pershing surpasses it). Can't mount Vert Stab like the Americans, though.

Edited by Platypusbill, 15 September 2013 - 09:51 PM.


boomaster #7 Posted 16 September 2013 - 07:32 AM

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View PostPlatypusbill, on 15 September 2013 - 01:17 PM, said:

It's very mobile, but speed and agility is all it has really.

I can use that.

Gun does perform better than suggested. The armour may not be great but it is surprisingly bouncy, I've found it's very solid against tier 5 med's but I've bounced plenty of other tanks as well.

BruceWayneGames #8 Posted 16 September 2013 - 08:43 AM

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its like a cromwell, is a little more bouncy, but worse gun for sniping penetration dpm generally fighting at all
actual stats, compared to cromwell (Cromwell is most similar playstyle to the a-43):
Tank // Winrate (tank) // Winrate (player) // impact on winrate (tank minus player)
Cromwell // 57,3 // 54,8 // + 2,5(%)
A-43   // 55,3 // 56,1 // - 0,8(%)

stats of noobmeter.com
Independent of the player, the cromwell wins 3,3% more games then the A-43. All in all, the a-43 performs really bad for a new tank.

Edited by BatGurl, 16 September 2013 - 09:25 AM.


bldyannoyed #9 Posted 16 September 2013 - 10:33 AM

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It's just a bit meh tbh.

On the plus side it is very very fast, engine and fuel tank damage don't seem to be an issue and (on paper) it has good dpm. Also the armour, while relatively thin, is the same front and sides so you can angle it a lot to try and ding stuff.

On the down side the driver, ammo rack and tracks are made of glass, it's got very low HP for it's tier and obviously can't bounce anything big and it's very hard to hide the ridiculous cupola on the top of the tank. And then theres the gun.

Which sucks ass.

It's reasonable dpm on paper, but not exceptional. However it's pen is so damn low that you will never apply it. You will bounce off all sorts of stupid places. The tank does very well circling big heavies where you're basically shooting into the sides at no angle, but ironically it really suffers against low profile tanks, like mediums, lights and some td's. It's depression is so horrendous that in close range brawls most of your shots will be going into the turret or skipping off the tops of their hull at auto bounce angles. I got stuck in the side of a hellcat who had 30hp left and dinged 4 shots off him because the gun couldn't get low enough to hit his hull. Needless to say he killed me.

I really wonder if WG appreciate just how much of a handicap bad depression on guns really is because on the A-43 it really ruins the tank and it doesn't get anything to make up for it. Even if you pen with every shot your dpm isn't mindblowing (2091 according to the tooltip).

But its fast so even if you don't achieve anything in a fight at least you can zoom around like your hairs on fire which is always fun if nothing else.

MkH #10 Posted 16 September 2013 - 11:14 AM

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It's not awful, but it certainly isn't great either. I found the lack of gun depression too limiting. It is better than one would assume from its stats. The turret is surprisingly bouncy too.

Hornet331 #11 Posted 16 September 2013 - 01:09 PM

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View PostBatGurl, on 16 September 2013 - 08:43 AM, said:

its like a cromwell, is a little more bouncy, but worse gun for sniping penetration dpm generally fighting at all
actual stats, compared to cromwell (Cromwell is most similar playstyle to the a-43):
Tank // Winrate (tank) // Winrate (player) // impact on winrate (tank minus player)
Cromwell // 57,3 // 54,8 // + 2,5(%)
A-43   // 55,3 // 56,1 // - 0,8(%)

stats of noobmeter.com
Independent of the player, the cromwell wins 3,3% more games then the A-43. All in all, the a-43 performs really bad for a new tank.

The cromwell is better, because it has gun depression. 8° is plenty to use on my place and the HV gun is quite good for this tier 145mm pen with 135dmg and 2080dpm is very good... compare that to 112pen and 85dmg with 2200dpm.
When we factor in gold ammo, cromwell is even better with 202 vs 189.

You say you could use the S54, but its stats are quite horrible, and the worse thing is the accuracy with 0,41 and gold pen is also only 156 while only getting a marginal upgrade in damage comapred to the Zis-4.

I don't like it, to many drawbacks with no real advantage.

xCaptainObviousx #12 Posted 16 September 2013 - 07:06 PM

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Note: The "ring" on the cupola is 120 mm thick, this means that you bounce quiet a lot off of it

A_Hardy_Buck #13 Posted 16 September 2013 - 10:48 PM

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Personally i find the A43 to be a heap of junk , either going to just play it for doubles or just rage sell it and do the other line
It's fast and that's it , every other aspect of the tank just sucks

exbuzzz #14 Posted 17 September 2013 - 02:57 AM

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Im done grinding for a-44 (and object 416). This tank is pretty good imo, it's fast and has a good gun. With very little depression you have to think at the start of every game where you should go to be effective. Common medium spots will mean hell for the new soviet medium line as they all have crap depression. If you go to places on the map where gun depression won't matter, you will do very well.

A_Hardy_Buck #15 Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:59 AM

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View Postexbuzzz, on 17 September 2013 - 02:57 AM, said:

Im done grinding for a-44 (and object 416). This tank is pretty good imo, it's fast and has a good gun. With very little depression you have to think at the start of every game where you should go to be effective. Common medium spots will mean hell for the new soviet medium line as they all have crap depression. If you go to places on the map where gun depression won't matter, you will do very well.


You're joking right ?

daz606 #16 Posted 18 September 2013 - 02:44 PM

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In the right hands I guess ;)

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CjStolec #17 Posted 18 September 2013 - 06:31 PM

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What sort of mm does this thing get? I swear 75% of the games I join in this pile of poop is tier VIII.
OK. I've played some more and i HATE it. The only good thing about this heap of junk is the speed.

Edited by CjStolec, 19 September 2013 - 11:58 AM.


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How am I going to choose between this route or the T34-85 route?

Hornet331 #19 Posted 19 September 2013 - 05:03 PM

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View Postdaz606, on 18 September 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

In the right hands I guess ;)

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yeah.... nah.... you are an avarage player on somehow have luck with the MM, this tanks i an over sized T34 and thats it.

You can't win matches alone with this tank, beause it has no alpha damage, no armor. You only win when no one focuses on you and thinks you are no thread, than som one can work with the dpm it can dish out. Else its worse then the T34-85 in any way.

Sniping is also not really an option, since AP pen is laughable and APCR shells lose penetration quite fast and are very expensive for the dmg they deliver.

I hate this tank, T34-85 or Type 58 is way better.

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View PostHornet331, on 19 September 2013 - 05:03 PM, said:

You only win when no one focuses on you and thinks you are no thread

Isn't this the point? Everyone says that this game is a team game, but many narrow-minded blaim everybody e.g. for camping, even TD's!!! You are totally wrong if you compare a tank like this with every other tank alone. None of the tanks of this game should be compared alone. For example, even a strong heavy can be destroyed by a pack of mediums. Playing smart and with teamwork is the point. And a result like the above is a teamwork's result. All that I said is the reason that I don't ever want to be a fan of this game. I have my static models to build and I play this game when I am bored with my models. But when I play, I try to play nice and with teamwork.

I will be watching this thread, beacause I am thinking of getting T-43 again, or A-43.




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