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BruceWayneGames #1 Posted 19 September 2013 - 08:12 AM

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Who has made first experiences with this tank?
Same disadvantages like the predecessors?
Same playstyle like predecessors?

AlreadyFF #2 Posted 19 September 2013 - 08:14 AM

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Really sweet tank to drive.
it is like T-62 but with armour and gun depression

BruceWayneGames #3 Posted 19 September 2013 - 08:54 AM

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i think youre referring to object 140

MkH #4 Posted 19 September 2013 - 11:22 AM

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No armor to speak off, but works rather well in sidescraping nonetheless. Very mobile and good camo values. However, what really makes this tank is the gun - it's nothing short of epic. 6,75 reload time without BIA, excellent penetration and very nice alpha damage of 320. With premium ammo you can easily penetrate tanks like IS-4, or shoot through the superstructure of a Jagdtiger. I think the Object 416 is probably the best tank of its tier.

exbuzzz #5 Posted 19 September 2013 - 03:43 PM

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I loved both the a-43 and a-44, but the 416 is really annoying me. I didn't mind the engine being disabled in the a-44, but in the 416 it seems to be disabled at least 2x as much. Any shot that penetrates the forward hull seems to damage/destroy the engine and it ruins the fun of the tank.
The a-44 is definitely superior imo, it's more agile, better top speed, it's turret isn't restricted, overall more fun tank.

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Jolac #6 Posted 20 September 2013 - 09:16 AM

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also grinding f4 Obj 416.... can't wait...
what about equipment?? what will you use???  :popcorn:  :popcorn:  :popcorn:

BruceWayneGames #7 Posted 20 September 2013 - 12:48 PM

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probably something like
+5% crew
+10% view range
-10% reload

cant wait either =)

Squadman45 #8 Posted 23 September 2013 - 05:47 PM

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With diference the worst med tier 8, why???

-no armor, this is nothing new meds tier 8 are far from be strong here but 416 is specially weak thanks to other problems hat it has and increase the armor problem.
-total unusefull to use covers, the vehicle is low and has no gun depresion, this means that you can hide your tank easy BUT cant shoot from your position, apart that to shoot you need expose all the time, add a bad armor...
-criticals... engine and fuel depots, like in the A-44.
-Turret... is in an horrible position for a med, specially one that cant hull down and with the limit in turret turn angle... very very very bad to flank.
-gun is ok but is not the best gun on tier and his 0 value to fight in irregular terrain and no 360º turret limit a lot the value of gun.

In general is a bad tank, is more a TD than a med, the problem is that you dont have a TD gun and the extra camo bonus.

You can do good battles on it but you are going to be more times insulting the genious that design a tank that cant turn his turret 306º, that is on his back, that cant use covers to fight enemy and with bad armor to cover a vulnerable engine room.

Hornet331 #9 Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:18 PM

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you forgot lowest HP of all T8 mediums... hell its right in T7 territory.

Sometimes i really wonder what the super testers actually report...  :mellow:

The only reason why I am even bothering with this line is for the O.430

MkH #10 Posted 25 September 2013 - 12:26 AM

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In my opinion, you shouldn't play it like a normal medium tank in most occasions. Don't try to conqure the hill in Maliovka or Prokhorovka (at least without proper support), or the beach in El Halluf. It hasn't got the armor, gun depression, hitpoints - or even a proper turret to do that. Play it like an active TD, and you'll achieve very good results. Stay hidden and spam away with that awesome gun. Use premium ammo to seriously hurt heavy tanks two tiers higher than you. I average around 2150 damage with it, which is way higher than any other t8 medium (or any t8 tank for that matter) of mine. On the other hand, my win rate tends to suffer. That's likely because I can't use my hitpoints or armor until the very end of the game.

Hornet331 #11 Posted 25 September 2013 - 06:57 PM

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and thats the problem with the whole line. All tanks are just "bystanders" if you team screwed up your a are screwed up, you can't carry.

Its the same as the T69, my damage there also was ~2100 per game, but only thanks to heat, watch as people will also whine till they nerf the heat to 260 or something like that and ruin the only thing this tank is good for.

Thrael7 #12 Posted 29 September 2013 - 02:19 PM

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I'd like to get my hands on this tank. I was away when the 8.8 got released. Only played against this 1 once and I was surprised, amazed and confused. 4 of us left in Ruinberg and this guy driving Obj.416 having 3 kills already. I'm not afraid to say we were humiliated and lost. The other 3 had few hp left and myself ~800HP left while capping. We played like idiots, no doubt. The tank was circling around our slow moving tanks. Personally I just saw the "Obj." part and thought its a typical monster gun russian OP. Didnt even know it's got s*** armor. I liked the mobility, lower profile, ROF and DPM. My T-34-1 and T-34-2 feel weak again... Another good T8 russian med.

Edited by Thrael7, 29 September 2013 - 09:27 PM.


rogash1775 #13 Posted 30 September 2013 - 08:11 AM

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funny tank , managed to do 6000 damage in a t 10 game with it=P ended up with 2900- xp and that was without the big gun and tracks

when i got the gun it makes a whole lot of difference , same reload as the other gun but 320 damage and better accuracy. with premium ammo this thing goes through kv 4s with ease:D

GregZorba #14 Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:41 PM

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not bad med., but as previously said, difficult to play ecause of weak armor and engine placed in front of it. Insane gun, very good mobility. Surprisingly costly when using top gun.

Mieep #15 Posted 01 October 2013 - 05:41 AM

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got this one yesterday. good tank, but every tank would feel op after the a-44.
Good gun, better depression then the a-44, lacks bit mobility and armor (and hp lol) but is more or less fun.
One of the better t-8 mediums.
ammoracked a t-43 and t-44 in a single game hihi, felt good after the painful a-44.
did i mention how much i hated the a-44? If not, lets repeat it: The horror.

Edited by Mieep, 01 October 2013 - 05:42 AM.


diminish3d #16 Posted 01 October 2013 - 10:10 AM

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Opposite problem here. I loved the A-44, it was a pleasant challenge.

But I must be doing something terribly, terribly  wrong with the 416.

Mieep #17 Posted 01 October 2013 - 11:22 AM

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View Postdiminish3d, on 01 October 2013 - 10:10 AM, said:

Opposite problem here. I loved the A-44, it was a pleasant challenge.

But I must be doing something terribly, terribly  wrong with the 416.
whats your problem with it?
I mean we speak about a dpm machine that can dish out heavy dmg even against t-10 tanks... 330 pen with heat.

Igo_ #18 Posted 04 October 2013 - 11:49 PM

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Its t8 half td-half med,with gun of t9 t54 and good cammo.OP like hell

aev1tas #19 Posted 05 October 2013 - 11:21 PM

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Question, what (other than HP) is the point of upgrading the turret on this thing? You get 15 more side armor, same traverse, and 10m more view range. Both turrets can mount the top gun as well. Any point in actually upgrading the turret on this?

MkH #20 Posted 06 October 2013 - 02:09 AM

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100 more hitpoints is a huge thing. 15mm more armor is a huge thing. 10 more view range is a huge thing. That's already three very good reasons. You also get a lower profile and a rounded shape that is a lot more effective at delfecting shots. I'm quite sure you also get a faster reload speed.

Edited by MkH, 06 October 2013 - 07:17 PM.





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