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kevenh_66 #1 Posted 16 October 2013 - 02:27 PM

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I've been looking online for a day or two & can't decide what to do. Toms Hardware is good for home build but less useful for prebuilt!

I need to retire my Dell Inspiron 530 and get something current - not bleeding edge tech, but decent.

I've done home built PC before - & enjoyed it - but I'd prefer to go 'prebuilt' this time, and late swap parts as new upgrades come along.

I can only go up to about £850 so no dream computers.

Just a desktop is needed - monitor etc. are staying as they are.

I think Intel i5 & Nvidia are my only desires!

For a prebuilt. who to go with: arbico chillblast or cclonline?  Or your suggestion?

basin79 #2 Posted 16 October 2013 - 02:57 PM

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Check out Chillblast. Can't fault mine. Give them your budget and they'll build you one.

Service was second to none and mine worked out cheaper off them than to build myself.

BrokenWing #3 Posted 16 October 2013 - 03:50 PM

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https://www.cyberpow...inity_Achilles/

That's a little over your budget but they have others just under. Check 'em out.

kevenh_66 #4 Posted 16 October 2013 - 04:04 PM

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I quite like Chillblast & the feedback they get.

Shame you can't spec a PC from scratch on their website.

I'll try a few of their initial options and play with the customise options :)

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;) Cyberpower are another I could've mentioned.
Ta for the feedback.

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View Postkevenh_66, on 16 October 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:

I quite like Chillblast & the feedback they get.Shame you can't spec a PC from scratch on their website.I'll try a few of their initial options and play with the customise options :)Cheers

Just fire them an email. I can't remember the name of the bloke that sorts out the specs for you but he'll make you a bespoke pc. From there you can then have a tinker. I started out with a Fusion Firebird. Swapped the i7 for an i5 OC to 4.8 and the money saved got a better GPU. I tinkered and tinkered and ended up with a great system that only had the bits and pieces I wanted.



kevenh_66 #7 Posted 16 October 2013 - 06:57 PM

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OK. At the risk of ignoring some great advice, I used both the PC's you posted as a start point to get to my wants and needs but didn't get the numbers to fit and then I found www.pcspecialist.co.uk had a 'build your own PC tool'.

If you're still happy to help, is there a glaring mistake in this spec?: -

PCSPECIALIST.CO.UK QUOTATION
Case
FRACTAL DESIGN CORE 1000 BLACK CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5 Quad Core Processor i5-4670K (3.4GHz) 6MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® Z87M-PLUS: m-ATX, USB3.0, SATA 6.0, XFIRE
Memory (RAM)
8GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (2 x 4GB KIT)
Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 650 - DVI, mHDMI, VGA - 3D Vision Ready
Free Item
FREE £50 IN-GAME VOUCHER with GTX 650 & GTX 650Ti GPUs!
Memory - 1st Hard Disk
120GB KINGSTON V300 SSD, SATA 6 Gb (450MB/R, 450MB/W)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 32MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 350W VS SERIES™ VS-350 POWER SUPPLY
Processor Cooling
Super Quiet 22dBA Triple Copper Heatpipe Intel CPU Cooler (£19)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Power Cable
1 x 2 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Operating System
Genuine Windows 8 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence (£79)
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
BULLGUARD INTERNET SECURITY - FREE 90 DAY TRIAL
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
Quantity
1
Price: £761.00 including VAT and delivery.
Unique URL to re-configure: http://www.pcspecial...-pc/gYSBR_PO2A/

A lot of the items are match for your ideas while some are a downgrade for my budget!

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I'm not massively up on pc's but maybe increase the power supply to give yourself to room to breathe if or probably when you decide to upgrade. Shouldn't cost a lot.Like I say though I'm not up on pc's only reviews and bench marks that I researched regarding cpu'a and gpu's. Maybe someone else can give the power supply a glance over who actually is clued up on them.
The things you really need are adequate cooling and a good power supply. These aren't the most expensive items but stop your pc from basically functioning. Always better to have a bit more than not enough.

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I'd also say up the power supply to at least 500-600W. 350W might just cut it for your current rig but it won't leave you with any option for upgrading later. Also make sure to ask if the case includes all the cooling fans, you'll want to preferably have too many of them than too few. I know having a lot of fans might seem like it's going to be super loud, but actually it's quite the contrary. With more fans the fan speeds can be kept lower thus reducing the overall noise when you're doing CPU/GPU heavy stuff like gaming. Rather have 6 fans running at half-speed than to have 3 blasting away at 100% power.

kevenh_66 #10 Posted 16 October 2013 - 10:26 PM

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Thanks for the feedback.

There's no rush so i'll send my quote to Chilllblast and see what they can do as a comparison.
I'll say I like the price but it needs some overclock safety features - heat & power

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And if space isn't an issue a nice roomy case.

kevenh_66 #12 Posted 16 October 2013 - 11:00 PM

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:) I'll double check the dimensions of the 'hole' it has to fit in! lol

Looks like 230mm x 600mm x 500mm (W x H x D)

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If you can possibly squeeze it in, the GTX 660 would be a better bet, GTX 660 Ti even better.

If I were building this machine, I'd forgo the SSD for now in preference to a better graphics card.

You can always add one later, whereas upgrading your graphics card is a bit more costly.

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View PostBrokenWing, on 17 October 2013 - 11:20 AM, said:

If you can possibly squeeze it in, the GTX 660 would be a better bet, GTX 660 Ti even better.

If I were building this machine, I'd forgo the SSD for now in preference to a better graphics card.

You can always add one later, whereas upgrading your graphics card is a bit more costly.
This would be a good idea. It's a desktop so you won't be firing it up six times a day like you would do a laptop, so the benefits of SSD would only be a few seconds here and there.

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Thanks for still adding feedback.
I've asked Chillblast for a price of a desktop that matches my quote & adds a mild overclock.
The SSD should keep on giving a benefit.

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SSDs take a fraction of the time to find data compared to an HDD. This means that when you boot up, search for a file, install and open a program – when you carry out just about any task with an SSD-equipped computer – you won’t be left twiddling your thumbs and wondering what’s taking so long. Brilliantly, the SSD’s immobility makes it shock-proof, lighter (both especially convenient benefits for consumers who lug around their laptops), and more durable than an HDD. The lack of moving parts also lengthens the life of your computer and requires less energy to run
But lets see what price Chillblast come back with!
I added all the parts to do a home built PC into an Amazon shopping basket & for a slightly higher spec PC it was £1100, so prebuilt now with self upgrade later is the way.
EDIT = Add this update: I beefed up the PC Specialist quote to match the higher amazon spec and that new quote was a similar price.

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It does give benefit, but the biggest difference of SSD/HDD comes when starting up Windows. I don't have SSD and starting WoT takes ~10-15 seconds. With SSD that would maybe be 2-5 seconds, but I wouldn't use a lot of money for that 10 seconds. Also with 120Gb you'll run out of space on the SSD really quickly unless you install all less used programs on the HDD. But, it's not my computer, it's your computer, so you of course make the final call :smile:  SSD is always better than HDD no question about it, but with a tight budget it's up to you to decide which parts you're going to invest in and which ones you'll save money with by using the not-so cutting edge stuff.

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I'd also suggest having a look at Overclockers "Build your own" section found here: http://www.overclock...d=43&catid=2473

I used it to build mine and my missus PC when we still lived in Ireland and it was awesome. Good price and delivered in 3 days!

Oh, and if you think you could stretch your budget, I'd suggest getting this: https://secure.scan....orms/swordfish/

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A SSD isn't a necessity but I love mine for the speed it cracks on with the windows start up.

kevenh_66 #19 Posted 18 October 2013 - 09:25 AM

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Chillblast are looking good.
For the same price: -
Ace Ecco 450 Noise Insulated
Intel Core i5 4670K Processor
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2 CPU Cooler
ASUS Z87-K, LGA1150, Z87
8GB Corsair PC3-12800 1600MHz DDR3 Memory
Chillblast NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650Ti Boost 2048MB Graphics Card
120GB Samsung 840 Series Solid State Drive
1000GB 7200RPM Hard Disk - 6Gbps
Corsair VS550 PSU
Windows 8 64 bit

No mention of them doing any overclocking for me though!
I think there's some scope in the power & cooling to do some light - medium OC, but it is optional! What do yo think?

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View PostiScending, on 17 October 2013 - 04:45 PM, said:

I'd also suggest having a look at Overclockers "Build your own" section found here: http://www.overclock...d=43&catid=2473
I used it to build mine and my missus PC when we still lived in Ireland and it was awesome. Good price and delivered in 3 days!
Oh, and if you think you could stretch your budget, I'd suggest getting this: https://secure.scan....orms/swordfish/
Sorry, I missed your post!  I will look at your links - looks useful :)
EDIT: The Swordfish desk isn't height adjustable - I'll decline that option :D

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