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Railwayman360 #1 Posted 25 October 2013 - 04:44 PM

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So as WoT won a golden joystick we will be getting this tier 2 tank as a reward
No stats yet, but i am hoping for a fast pz1c style tank.

Here is the quote from wikipedia
"The T7 Combat Car was a prototype small armored car produced by Holabird Quartermaster Depot for the US Army in 1930. All six vehicles that were completed, USA W1310, USA W1311, USA W1312, USA W1313, USA W1314 and USA W1315, were 4x6 wheeled vehicles, powered by Franklin's air-cooled, 6-cylinder, gasoline engine, with a crew of four and armed with one .50 calibre machine gun supported by two .30 calibre lighter machine guns."

Hang on it said Wheeled vehicles, but the one we see from the WoT website is tracked.
Furthermore, i found a picture on wikipedia that looks completely different.
What is going on?  :confused:

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krazypenguin #2 Posted 25 October 2013 - 04:54 PM

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Not sure about this specific vehicle, but during the early development of tanks there was an idea that some light tanks would have very large wheels which would allow them to run on roads as wheeled vehicles, then put the tracks on for cross country travel.  This would allow them to travel quickly and economically via roads (and with less maintenance), then use tracks for fighting on bad terrain to get better mobility.

So like I say, not sure about this specific example, but it is possible for a tank to be both wheeled and tracked.

Alpa_Chino #3 Posted 25 October 2013 - 04:55 PM

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Well, it would be kinda OP if you couldn't detrack it ;)

CuteGargoyle #4 Posted 25 October 2013 - 04:59 PM

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Check this link

My question is this:

Does it just speed up when you shoot the tracks off?

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Since the vehicle weighted only 11 tons, it could go as fast as 56km/h on tracks and whopping 85km/h on wheels.


hscorpio #5 Posted 25 October 2013 - 05:22 PM

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Does it just speed up when you shoot the tracks off?

Only if the detrack makes it slide off a cliff.  :rolleyes:

As long as the crew is compatible with my T71 I'll be happy with this one.

Banelord300 #6 Posted 25 October 2013 - 08:30 PM

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Well 10 seconds with the power of google I noticed this picture so I think wiki pic is wrong vechile :).

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M5A1 #7 Posted 25 October 2013 - 09:12 PM

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I think, the BT-series have had also the ability to drive on wheels...

CritticalError #8 Posted 25 October 2013 - 09:12 PM

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Let's start with the good things:
Presents are allways nice andI like the spiky look of the tracks (rest looks nice as well). Maybe in a few years you can impress someone with your unique tank and make them yeallous because they can't buy....
Bad: Well: First I got a bonus code for T2 light, than came Xmas (or was it new year) and we got the light revolver usa T2 tank. Now comes golden Joystick award and we get the third freaking american T2 light with something like a machinegun. Notice a trend here? I would have prefered some other tank (maybe a medium or a french one whatever) instead of that one since I simply don't play any USA lights and therefore have no need for a crewtrainer.
Well....I hope for an epic event like last year as well with the car beeing a nice bonus!

Eila_Juutilainen #9 Posted 26 October 2013 - 01:00 AM

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I like the looks of this tank, but it's gun is the 0.5 cal machinegun with a whopping 22mm pen... unless it gets very preferential matchmaking, I foresee awfull games with lots of bounces. T1E6 has a better gun, IMO.

CuteGargoyle #10 Posted 26 October 2013 - 08:30 AM

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View PostCuteGargoyle, on 25 October 2013 - 04:59 PM, said:


As I said.  Check this link


View Posthscorpio, on 25 October 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

Only if the detrack makes it slide off a cliff.  :rolleyes:

It was faster with the tracks off. No Cliff required.


View PostBanelord300, on 25 October 2013 - 08:30 PM, said:

Well 10 seconds with the power of google I noticed this picture so I think wiki pic is wrong vechile :).

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This is the vehicle shown In The Link

View PostLiner8, on 25 October 2013 - 09:12 PM, said:

I think, the BT-series have had also the ability to drive on wheels...

Boys really are exasperating..........and dumb.

Shegzor #11 Posted 26 October 2013 - 06:05 PM

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View PostCuteGargoyle, on 26 October 2013 - 08:30 AM, said:

As I said.  Check this link




It was faster with the tracks off. No Cliff required.





This is the vehicle shown In The Link



Boys really are exasperating..........and dumb.

http://en.wikipedia....stie_suspension

As far as I understand it, most if not all Christie suspension tanks were supposed to have that ability (remove track for faster and more efficient road travel). Therefore, if BTs, T71, T-34 and all those stop after getting tracked - why would it be any different with this one? It's a game mechanic, it's not supposed to make sense, but if you really want it to - perhaps the tracks get tangled up in the wheels after getting shot off? There is absolutely no reason why shooting off a T7's tracks would do anything but stop it.

CuteGargoyle #12 Posted 26 October 2013 - 06:13 PM

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View PostShegzor, on 26 October 2013 - 06:05 PM, said:

As far as I understand it, most if not all Christie suspension tanks were supposed to have that ability (remove track for faster and more efficient road travel). Therefore, if BTs, T71, T-34 and all those stop after getting tracked - why would it be any different with this one?

Because I believe this tank was the only one actually used/tested in both modes. The others were not.

View PostShegzor, on 26 October 2013 - 06:05 PM, said:

It's a game mechanic, it's not supposed to make sense, but if you really want it to - perhaps the tracks get tangled up in the wheels after getting shot off? There is absolutely no reason why shooting off a T7's tracks would do anything but stop it.

Yes the game mechanics are strange. 15 seconds to fix a detrack, 30 seconds to reload a gun. So wrong.

Maybe it should just be able to drive in wide fast circles if only one track is blown off.   :blinky:

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View PostCuteGargoyle, on 26 October 2013 - 06:13 PM, said:

Because I believe this tank was the only one actually used/tested in both modes. The others were not.



Yes the game mechanics are strange. 15 seconds to fix a detrack, 30 seconds to reload a gun. So wrong.

Maybe it should just be able to drive in wide fast circles if only one track is blown off.   :blinky:

From the wikipedia's T-34 article (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-34)

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It also had an 8×6-wheel convertible drive similar to the BT tank's 8×2, which allowed it to run on wheels without caterpillar tracks.[16] This feature had greatly saved on maintenance and repair of the unreliable tank tracks of the early 1930s, and allowed tanks to exceed 85 kilometres per hour (53 mph) on roads, but gave no advantage in combat. By 1937-38, track design had improved and the designers considered it a waste of space and weight, despite the road speed advantage.

How could they have known it increased its roadspeed to over 85 km/h if they haven't tested it? I'm pretty sure they did, as with most if not all of the other tanks with this feature. You don't just put something on a tank and say "Yeah! Now our tank has this feature, but there's no need to test it because common sense dictates that it works."

The game mechanics are there to make the game "fun" (it is, after all, an arcade game, not a simulator). They usually make sense, at least in context, but sometimes they're not logical but a necessary evil to stop the game from being either too demanding for modern gamers (who need to be spoonfed content without bothering to invest themselves into a game at all) or too dumb to offer any challenge. As SerB would put it: Don't like the mechanics? Don't play the game. There's always that other tank game you could try, it's supposed to be more realistic. Personally, fun > realistic, but that's totally up to you I guess.

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View PostCritticalError, on 25 October 2013 - 09:12 PM, said:

Let's start with the good things:
Presents are allways nice andI like the spiky look of the tracks (rest looks nice as well). Maybe in a few years you can impress someone with your unique tank and make them yeallous because they can't buy....
Bad: Well: First I got a bonus code for T2 light, than came Xmas (or was it new year) and we got the light revolver usa T2 tank. Now comes golden Joystick award and we get the third freaking american T2 light with something like a machinegun. Notice a trend here? I would have prefered some other tank (maybe a medium or a french one whatever) instead of that one since I simply don't play any USA lights and therefore have no need for a crewtrainer.
Well....I hope for an epic event like last year as well with the car beeing a nice bonus!
Well then understand this giveaway as a free garage slot, worth 300g.

KLguns #15 Posted 28 October 2013 - 06:26 AM

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Yeeeee, 1 free garage slot, thanks WG.

GreeKSouL1821 #16 Posted 30 October 2013 - 01:39 PM

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Omg!!! That tank suxx terribly. !!!

Hedgehog1963 #17 Posted 30 October 2013 - 02:56 PM

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View PostGreeKSouL1821, on 30 October 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

Omg!!! That tank suxx terribly. !!!

Never been a better day to go out in your T2 Light. It carves up T7s like paper

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No_Name_Soldier #19 Posted 30 October 2013 - 05:59 PM

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I sold it so fast it wasnt even funny.




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