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K_A #1 Posted 25 November 2013 - 08:38 PM

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So I've almost elited the Pz38t and am almost ready to move on to the next tank in line, the dreaded Pz38(na). Unfortunately I can't spare the gold to get a 100% crew so I'm going to have to with a 75% one, but I can and will be using binocs and camo net with it, and AFAIK light tanks get cheap vents, so I might as well stick one in the third slot. Now, how should I be using it to make the grind as painless as possible? I can maybe spare a little free XP for some essential modules (if there are any, are there?) but I'm saving it for more important tanks so free XP'ing my way through it straight to tier 5 isn't an option.

KptStrzyga #2 Posted 25 November 2013 - 08:41 PM

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38NA? Get a strong drink, it might help. Not with 38NA, nothing will help you with this but with keeping your sanity.
Only tip I can think about is: play it as passive scout. Use binos and camo net in some bush.

Edited by KptStrzyga, 25 November 2013 - 08:47 PM.


Lindling #3 Posted 25 November 2013 - 08:44 PM

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Check out a few vids by Tazilon - also his map guides are very neat if this is your first dedicated scout...

K_A #4 Posted 25 November 2013 - 10:48 PM

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I have the ELC, but like to play it more like an assault TD / active scout. Thanks, I might just look at those  :smile:

NiemandXL #5 Posted 25 November 2013 - 10:56 PM

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Nothing will help you with that tank, having a crew with a few skills (camo + sixth sense at least) and the best possible equipment makes it somewhat playable on maybe 1/3 of the maps you end up on. With a 75% crew and no skills..... try positive music while playing and stronk drink....

Tazilon #6 Posted 26 November 2013 - 04:09 AM

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View PostK_A, on 25 November 2013 - 08:38 PM, said:

So I've almost elited the Pz38t and am almost ready to move on to the next tank in line, the dreaded Pz38(na). Unfortunately I can't spare the gold to get a 100% crew so I'm going to have to with a 75% one, but I can and will be using binocs and camo net with it, and AFAIK light tanks get cheap vents, so I might as well stick one in the third slot. Now, how should I be using it to make the grind as painless as possible? I can maybe spare a little free XP for some essential modules (if there are any, are there?) but I'm saving it for more important tanks so free XP'ing my way through it straight to tier 5 isn't an option.

Don't listen to all the naysayers; the Pz38nA is a great little tank.

Here is a look at it:  http://www.tazilon.n...8nA/Pz38nA.html

And here are 25 YouTubes of it in action: http://www.tazilon.n...Pz38nAHall.html

Personally, I like it much more than the Luchs.

K_A #7 Posted 26 November 2013 - 09:22 AM

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View PostTazilon, on 26 November 2013 - 04:09 AM, said:

Don't listen to all the naysayers; the Pz38nA is a great little tank.

Here is a look at it:  http://www.tazilon.n...8nA/Pz38nA.html

And here are 25 YouTubes of it in action: http://www.tazilon.n...Pz38nAHall.html

Personally, I like it much more than the Luchs.
Thanks man :great:

And I just fgured that I can just use one of my German TD crews on this thing! Sure they'll get a penalty for not being trained to the 38nA but their effective crew skills will still be roughly 75% AND they all have almost 100% camo skills! :smile:  No sixth sense on my German TDs yet, though..

Flinsenberger #8 Posted 26 November 2013 - 12:58 PM

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You might contemplate getting yourself a 100% commander for it. That's about one Euro in costs and will greatly enhance the performance of the vehicle. You will get more xp because of the viewrange (spotting, damage assisted) and your crew will have an additional commander bonus.

Regarding equipment I'd go for tracks, turret (view range!) and gun, then engine and then radio. You need the view range as a passive scout. You need the radio (the big one) to communicate your sightings to your team-members, if you want to scout.

If you don't get the radio, you will be severely limited. A 310m radio just doesn't cut it for a scout. E.G. you will not be able to do forward scouting on El Halluf. You will scout, but only you will see the tanks.

If you leave out the radio, you will have "saved" 4000xp. But... and this is a big BUT... will "saving" this actually save you time?

How many XP will you "lose" because others can't shoot what you spot? I cannot answer it. Will the additional xp for assisted damage be 25% higher than what you get with the small radio? Probably not. Will the radio help your average xp and win ratio? Definitely.

So if you like scouting and playing light tanks, get the radio. If not... well, don't get it. but you will hurt your team and your stats without it.

Khul #9 Posted 26 November 2013 - 09:08 PM

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My advice would be: listen to Tazilon, & the dude recommending that you have some crew skills.
& also my own n00by suggestion borne of bitter experience is never mount the 5cm. Put the 4.7 on it; admittedly I had quite a stronk crew but it's like a bloody machine-gun.Aim-time, accuracy, ROF just insane on that tank.  Also, gold ammo for credits was ridiculously cheap when I did it, so I basically spammed APCR at everything. Probably 50/50 load-out. Not sure that's a good idea these days (cost of premium for that gun doubled, AFAIK). But still. Tons better than the bloody PzIII 5 cm.
I hate that gun.
But then again I always thought it was a nice little tank. Find a bush, keep very still. Profit. Right at the end run about like a mad thing firing your pop-gun through the sides of things that can't quite believe what they're seeing. Great fun.

Edited by Khul, 26 November 2013 - 09:10 PM.


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I wasn't sure whether to get this one but followed Tazilon's comment in a post on the Luchs that he prefers the 38na, so I bought the 38na. I haven't played scout much with other tanks but I actually quite like the tank. Definitely helpful having a crew with some crew skills though - Sixth Sense for a start so you know when you are spotted. I don't have that yet on my Stuart and it is a nightmare because I think I'm safe in a bush and the next thing I've been destroyed. Taz's guide is very useful (thanks Taz)

panzeraustirol #11 Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:17 PM

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Well... after some battles you are gonna get bored of Pz. 38 N/A, and you will try to make suicide. T-50, Covenanter (both i had owned) are alot more fun. But its worth making suicide making it too Pz. IV, Tiger (P) and Maus.

Tazilon #12 Posted 22 February 2014 - 03:49 AM

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View Postpanzeraustirol, on 19 February 2014 - 09:17 PM, said:

Well... after some battles you are gonna get bored of Pz. 38 N/A, and you will try to make suicide. T-50, Covenanter (both i had owned) are alot more fun. But its worth making suicide making it too Pz. IV, Tiger (P) and Maus.

 

Have you played the T-50 lately?  It is a dog now.



Ulv_Jaeger #13 Posted 22 February 2014 - 11:42 AM

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View PostTazilon, on 22 February 2014 - 03:49 AM, said:

 

Have you played the T-50 lately?  It is a dog now.

 

Especially when most of the preview videos for it are for the pre nerfed version.

 

Tazilon, have you ever given, or considered giving, training room map tours for enthusiastic future scouts?


Edited by Ulv_Jaeger, 22 February 2014 - 11:50 AM.


Ulv_Jaeger #14 Posted 22 February 2014 - 11:49 AM

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View PostK_A, on 26 November 2013 - 09:22 AM, said:


Don't listen to all the naysayers; the Pz38nA is a great little tank.
Here is a look at it: http://www.tazilon.n...8nA/Pz38nA.html
And here are 25 YouTubes of it in action: http://www.tazilon.n...Pz38nAHall.html
Personally, I like it much more than the Luchs.
Thanks man :great:
And I just fgured that I can just use one of my German TD crews on this thing! Sure they'll get a penalty for not being trained to the 38nA but their effective crew skills will still be roughly 75% AND they all have almost 100% camo skills! :smile: No sixth sense on my German TDs yet, though..

 

The little T-15 is a fun machine with easy mm for getting the skills up to speed even if just for the daily doubles. I use the Luchs atm, but plan to pull my Pz.IV crew back down the ranks as a 38na crew when skilled a bit more, and get them back to 100% in the T-15.



Tazilon #15 Posted 24 February 2014 - 05:28 AM

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View PostUlv_Jaeger, on 22 February 2014 - 10:42 AM, said:

 

Especially when most of the preview videos for it are for the pre nerfed version.

 

Tazilon, have you ever given, or considered giving, training room map tours for enthusiastic future scouts?

 

 

I barely have time to keep up with the Hall of Fame films as it is.   I really need to spend more time working on the site and maps but I need some time to play, too :)


Edited by Tazilon, 24 February 2014 - 05:28 AM.


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This is boring?

 

Carrying South Coast in a Pz38nA



Tallaen #17 Posted 26 February 2014 - 03:18 AM

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I really like my 38 na. Came alive with binos and a net. Not got 100 percent on first crew skills yet but getting there, not the fastest tank but something about it that I like :happy:

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Tips for 38NA?

 

Yes, save up 16,290 free exp and skip it altogether.



Tazilon #19 Posted 26 February 2014 - 07:27 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 26 February 2014 - 02:35 AM, said:

Tips for 38NA?

 

Yes, save up 16,290 free exp and skip it altogether.

 

If you do that, you will miss out on one of the most under-rated tanks in the game.



Ulv_Jaeger #20 Posted 26 February 2014 - 05:59 PM

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View PostTazilon, on 26 February 2014 - 07:27 AM, said:

 

If you do that, you will miss out on one of the most under-rated tanks in the game.

 

As a newb, and it being one of my earliest tanks, I played her with an awful crew, hated the +4 mm, and despised the meagre exp/battle returns and the lengthy grind of 94 battles (compared to 5 for the 35t, and not much more for the 38t). I did however get a 54% WR with her, despite using the wrong gun (50mm) etc, so I fully intend to revisit the tank with a suitably trained crew. The 38(t) is still a favourite, so it will be interesting to see how I get on with the 38na now that I know what her purpose in game is, and how to perform those tasks.






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