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GMudpool #1 Posted 18 December 2013 - 07:52 PM

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I am not a bad player. My winrate is 56% and may WN6 is 1493. So I think I am actually quite a good player. Normally I should be able to win 5 or 6 games out of 10. Ofcourse there are days things go better then other days and ofcourse some days things go worse. And some days the gameplay is really really worse. Usually after having 1 or 2 good days. Like today (18-12-2013). I got 2 wins after 12 battles. My teammates are completely useless. The only thing I can explain is that WG is deliberately putting me in bad teams. And that is cheating. Actually it is swindling. 

 

It is not the first time this happens to me. And it also happens to people I know. 

 

What I would like to know .... Does this happen to you too?

 

 



MeetriX #2 Posted 18 December 2013 - 08:22 PM

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I think we need lots of :popcorn:

scaramush #3 Posted 18 December 2013 - 08:34 PM

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o yes, often.

and big guns make lots of 0 damage hits, bounce on 4 tier lower scouts...

unlucky days, aim and shell gone 20m away from target, on some maps aim marker dont wonna go to center position or on enemy.

just enjoy those days, and remember:

EVERY patch is making this game more nice to watch and WORSE to play.



LeMoron #4 Posted 18 December 2013 - 08:56 PM

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View PostGMudpool, on 18 December 2013 - 07:52 PM, said:

 

 

What I would like to know .... Does this happen to you too?

 

 

 

Ofcourse not, you're the only person in the game who gets useless teams.

 



ancient_divinity #5 Posted 18 December 2013 - 08:59 PM

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Have had 2 Battels with good Players vs. only bad Players, every good player in my team was writing i can´t pen opponents, my T30 did 7 hits at Weakspot of Tier VII Tanks and i could not Pen those. (they have not angeled the tank)

 

This is maybe a new feature in the game, you played a few good games, than you bounce on everyting or don´t hit with more than 10 full aimed shoots at 200 Meter distance.



GMudpool #6 Posted 19 December 2013 - 09:55 AM

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So, yesterday I started with 1 out of 10. Today 9 out of 10. Nice ofcourse, but ridiculous. How can there be such an enormous difference?

SaintCaboose #7 Posted 19 December 2013 - 10:09 AM

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View PostGMudpool, on 19 December 2013 - 08:55 AM, said:

So, yesterday I started with 1 out of 10. Today 9 out of 10. Nice ofcourse, but ridiculous. How can there be such an enormous difference?

its random?



Razersharpy #8 Posted 19 December 2013 - 10:35 AM

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matchmaking random of coruse, just live with it

KawaGreen #9 Posted 19 December 2013 - 10:38 AM

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Random = Random

 

Some times you lose a lot, sometimes you win a lot.

If you are a good player, you'll win a lot more than you lose.

If you are a bad player, you'll win a lot less than you lose.

 

A lot of factors are at play in a game with 30 players...



GMudpool #10 Posted 19 December 2013 - 11:02 AM

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Indeed there are a lot of factors which decide in whether to win or lose. Though, and I am not a mathmatician, I just dont believe that statistics can differ so much in 2 days. And this happens quite regularly. I think it is too far of the standard deviation chart. And I believe that there are more parameters that decide you win or lose. And I would like to know what these are. So, if peple have the same experience as I, please tell.

mindwise #11 Posted 19 December 2013 - 12:02 PM

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I sincerely doubt WG have the tools in place to manipulate your winrate like that.

If i'd be rolling dice counting odd and even throws, then too the outcome would be like that...
Some days much more 'even' , and other days much more 'odds'.

 

A one day sample size is not enough to be compared to any standard deviation, let alone a "12 match sample size",  i think you need a larger sample size...
In fact,  i bet that when you take a larger sample size (7 day, or better still, 60 day ), that the larger your sample size, the better the overall fits together.

 

None of the above of course negates the fact that it can feel very frustrating / unfair..   at least if you're experiencing a loss streak ;)

 



marcusek #12 Posted 19 December 2013 - 12:03 PM

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and i am a bad player, if i lose every battle, bec. all battles +2tier (Kv1s (6) >tier 7-8, then with kv3 (7) tier 8-9, and with my is3(8) tier 9-10 tanks in the enemy)????? How can i play a battle when i am the toptier tank??? Need premium or wtf? I create screenshoots all of my battles (~3 week ~200 battle), but i never on top tier....

 


Edited by marcusek, 19 December 2013 - 12:03 PM.


GMudpool #13 Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:48 PM

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View Postmarcusek, on 19 December 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

and i am a bad player, if i lose every battle, bec. all battles +2tier (Kv1s (6) >tier 7-8, then with kv3 (7) tier 8-9, and with my is3(8) tier 9-10 tanks in the enemy)????? How can i play a battle when i am the toptier tank??? Need premium or wtf? I create screenshoots all of my battles (~3 week ~200 battle), but i never on top tier....

 

 

It is very strange indeed that you only play against higher tiers. Should not be possible. Have no idea why this happens to you



NervosCuNervii #14 Posted 19 December 2013 - 02:05 PM

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@marcusek
What am I supposed to say when my arty (FV3805 tier 9) is the only tier 9 besides a heavy, with the rest being tier 8 and 7 ? Or when I'm in the top tier players with the same arty ? Lucky ?!? Surely not, as a top tier arty is hunted like a witch in the dark ages...
I actually enjoy being in the medium-lower tiers as I'm usually underestimated and have a blast (pun intended) playing the game. :justwait:

From tier 6 and up, it really doesn't matter anymore if you are low tier as your gun has enough penetration to do some damage. Of course, I'm not talking about stock tanks.


Also, when you are the lower tier, just sit back and let the heavies kill one another and then move in and clean the map. :blinky:

thebigfueltank #15 Posted 19 December 2013 - 02:13 PM

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When I get these defeat streaks, I log out and back in, if that fails, I exit and have a cup of tea and then reload WoT.

Usually that clears the problem with loosing, being unable to hit anything and shells bouncing off scouts (like a AMX ELC the other day when I shot it with my Lowe).

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited by thebigfueltank, 19 December 2013 - 02:14 PM.


CS_Hubert #16 Posted 19 December 2013 - 02:42 PM

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I find it fishy too, but then again... Im not a good player nor a bad one. Kind of average. I have days on end where I get ex 14 losses and 3 wins. As I said Im not a terribly good player, but I of the 14 losses, Im usual in top three and in half of them Im at top. Those days have come often lately. And I can see it in my overall winrate. Its going downward. Perhabs something has changed ???  

HarryStotle #17 Posted 19 December 2013 - 05:54 PM

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I'll just leave this here:     http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/333268-mm-and-totalitarian-win-rate-control-system-in-game/page__st__80#topmost

 

Its not a rigged MM we think, but you are not alone in thinking something odd is going on so welcome to the 'We are going crazy club' :smile:


Edited by HarryStotle, 19 December 2013 - 05:54 PM.


Thorgardson #18 Posted 20 December 2013 - 08:04 AM

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I had a week of a losing streak. It was really frustrating. But this is a game. :smile:

Valeriadrina #19 Posted 21 December 2013 - 03:49 PM

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View PostGMudpool, on 18 December 2013 - 07:52 PM, said:

I am not a bad player. My winrate is 56% and may WN6 is 1493. So I think I am actually quite a good player. Normally I should be able to win 5 or 6 games out of 10. Ofcourse there are days things go better then other days and ofcourse some days things go worse. And some days the gameplay is really really worse. Usually after having 1 or 2 good days. Like today (18-12-2013). I got 2 wins after 12 battles. My teammates are completely useless. The only thing I can explain is that WG is deliberately putting me in bad teams. And that is cheating. Actually it is swindling. 

 

It is not the first time this happens to me. And it also happens to people I know. 

 

What I would like to know .... Does this happen to you too?

 

 

Learn a bit more about statistics. Losing 10 games in a row is not that uncommon when you are teamed up with 14 random people. 50 in a row is almost impossible unless there is something else present beyond random matching.



del502150176 #20 Posted 21 December 2013 - 07:36 PM

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View PostGMudpool, on 18 December 2013 - 06:52 PM, said:

 My winrate is 56% 

 

Here is the reason.






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