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thewolfpack #1 Posted 30 December 2013 - 04:08 PM

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Why? Why in the world do some people REFUSE to cap?

 

WHY?

 

It still angers me. Sometimes. Even if I see the player rating, it angers me. Aww... the rage.

 

MATCH INSIDE > NO CAP! < MATCH INSIDE

 


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Bloodspill #2 Posted 30 December 2013 - 04:17 PM

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because capping with 15 enemies alive suck :bajan:

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thewolfpack #3 Posted 30 December 2013 - 04:19 PM

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View PostBloodspill, on 30 December 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

because capping with 15 enemies alive suck :bajan:


Winning, is more important!



A_Hardy_Buck #4 Posted 30 December 2013 - 04:20 PM

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Agreed i prefer to win a game rather than spending another 4 minutes looking for that 1 tank that nobody has spotted yet , Capping =s victory 

Chasing 1 tank could result in a loss 


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4runner #5 Posted 30 December 2013 - 04:20 PM

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I hate when my X2 or X5 happens in a game where I can't fire a single shell because our scouts and meds capped :/

Bloodspill #6 Posted 30 December 2013 - 04:20 PM

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View Postthewolfpack, on 30 December 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:


Winning, is more important!

I would rather lose and get 700 xp then getting 150xp for a win tho



A_Hardy_Buck #7 Posted 30 December 2013 - 04:23 PM

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View Post4runner, on 30 December 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:

I hate when my X2 or X5 happens in a game where I can't fire a single shell because our scouts and meds capped :/

 

 

That's probably a fault of your poor positioning and from having your gun out of the game, lets face it , fast caps are extremely rare ever since komarine was reworked 



Homer_J #8 Posted 30 December 2013 - 04:29 PM

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View Postthewolfpack, on 30 December 2013 - 03:19 PM, said:


Winning, is more important!

 

Agreed.

 

But capping is rarely the way to win and average players can't be trusted to know when to cap and when to fight.



Alezul #9 Posted 30 December 2013 - 04:36 PM

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View Postthewolfpack, on 30 December 2013 - 12:08 PM, said:

Why? Why in the world do some people REFUSE to cap?

I like to blow stuff up more than standing in a circle. My priority every match is to blow stuff up, not to reach the enemy flag, i just go towards their flag because generally that's where the enemy is. Maybe others share this mentality?

 

Of course, outright refusing is weird. If you know loss is imminent otherwise, if you can't defend base or if you wouldn't reach the last enemies before your allies kill them, cap.



thewolfpack #10 Posted 30 December 2013 - 04:41 PM

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I uploaded a match for matter understanding.

Private_Miros #11 Posted 30 December 2013 - 04:42 PM

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Capping is important when it is important. And the most important cap in game is the abandoned cap. Lure the enemy in, and then don't get shot to pieces.

 

In the majority of cases capping is something tomatoes do because they can't do anything else, they expose themselves, get killed, blame the team, and move on.

 

I can't fathom why people play computer games to wait in queue, wait for the battle count to go down, wait until all enemies are distracted or gone, wait in a white circle for a while, and repeat.

 

There is no stupidity more insulting and infuriating than the stupidity of one who prefers sit in a cap circle apart from the exceptional case when it is absolutely and totally needed (game otherwise lost - last enemy(s) not spotted, fast and probably full HP), which is hardly ever.

 

People who cap are either stupid or selfish beyond belief, withholding thousands of damage, xp and credits to a number of people to gain a pitiful amount themselves.

 

As is clear from this rant, I consider cappers are worse than bots, team killers, grievers, trolls, complete nitwits,... If anything ever kills this game, it's hurt durr let's go stand in a circle and wait 4 fun.


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thewolfpack #12 Posted 30 December 2013 - 04:52 PM

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View PostPrivate_Miros, on 30 December 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

Capping is important when it is important. And the most important cap in game is the abandoned cap. Lure the enemy in, and then don't get shot to pieces.

 

In the majority of cases capping is something tomatoes do because they can't do anything else, they expose themselves, get killed, blame the team, and move on.

 

I can't fathom why people play computer games to wait in queue, wait for the battle count to go down, wait until all enemies are distracted or gone, wait in a white circle for a while, and repeat.

 

There is no stupidity more insulting and infuriating than the stupidity of one who prefers sit in a cap circle apart from the exceptional case when it is absolutely and totally needed (game otherwise lost - last enemy(s) not spotted, fast and probably full HP), which is hardly ever.

 

People who cap are either stupid or selfish beyond belief, withholding thousands of damage, xp and credits to a number of people to gain a pitiful amount themselves.

 

As is clear from this rant, I consider cappers are worse than bots, team killers, grievers, trolls, complete nitwits,... If anything ever kills this game, it's hurt durr let's go stand in a circle and wait 4 fun.


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Tomato's advice



Homer_J #14 Posted 30 December 2013 - 04:59 PM

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View Postthewolfpack, on 30 December 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:

I uploaded a match for matter understanding.

 

One battle does not the basis for a sound tactic form.



Private_Miros #15 Posted 30 December 2013 - 05:06 PM

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View Postgruntcruncher, on 30 December 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:


Really? This again. Another thread BigBadVuK will be closing fast.

 

Miros you are yet another tit up your own arse. Capping is a completely valid tactic, it even pops up as a mini tactic on the loading screen, yet you [edited]about it and then rage about players who do it. Meanwhile shall we look at your stats and see how many cap points you have? because you have none, zero, nil.. yes? No, you have cap points. You have done it same as everyone else. So wind your neck in.

 

Lol, I mention the tactical advantages and the necessity of capping at least 4 times in my post.

 

When is capping useful?

 

About 1 every 100 games.

Always to lure and abandon when you get reaction.

 

Capping more is just classic tomato behavior.



thewolfpack #16 Posted 30 December 2013 - 05:06 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 30 December 2013 - 04:59 PM, said:

 

 

One battle does not the basis for a sound tactic form.


Sure, but its a perfect example.



Homer_J #17 Posted 30 December 2013 - 05:14 PM

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View Postthewolfpack, on 30 December 2013 - 04:06 PM, said:


Sure, but its a perfect example.

 

And for each perfect example where capping was the correct tactic you could produce 100 where capping would not be the correct tactic.  In fact I could just pull my last 100 replays because in every single one capping was not the correct tactic.



Homer_J #18 Posted 30 December 2013 - 06:08 PM

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View Postgruntcruncher, on 30 December 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:


Yeah and I have many more where capping was exactly the right tactic. Your argument and those of Miros fail everytime. Capping is a valid tactic, how it is used is up to the individual and you nor I have the right to argue it, no matter what your personal view is.

Please, bring forth your evidence.  Somehow I doubt that if you checked your last 100 battles you would have many more where capping was the right tactic than killing was the right tactic. Regardless of what actually happened or the outcome.

 

And I think we have every right to discuss this in an open forum and suggest that it is better to advocate not capping to the majority of players because they cannot tell when to cap and killing all is more often the better tactic.

 

Now if we were going into a battle and raging at them or team killing then you might have a point.  But we are not.  We are having a fairly civilised discussion about it.

 

Now, where is your argument that it is better to advocate capping as the primary tactic to the masses?  That is the tomatoes, the ones who go into battle with one plan which is often get to the enemy base and sit in the circle while they get shot?



Private_Miros #19 Posted 30 December 2013 - 06:17 PM

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View Postgruntcruncher, on 30 December 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:


the nabs that snipe all match with 0.5 accuracy. The arty that never fires a shot due to indecision, the scout who bush camps in A0 entire match.

 

Those don't hold me back, they fail, hurt the team's chances; they don't hurt my fun in a 1 vs 29 game.

 

Untimely cappers do (and have negative or zero influence on the team's chances).


Edited by Private_Miros, 30 December 2013 - 06:19 PM.


Homer_J #20 Posted 30 December 2013 - 06:52 PM

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View Postgruntcruncher, on 30 December 2013 - 05:20 PM, said:


 I just pointed out it is a valid tactic and supported by WG,

 

It is a valid tactic and most of the time a fail one.







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