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molan1976 #21 Posted 27 January 2014 - 03:18 PM

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View Postazakow, on 21 January 2014 - 04:14 PM, said:

In case you have few crew skills, it is best to perform more "stationary" gameplay, hence binos.

Later in your AMX 13 90 career you will be moving more than 2/3 of the match, hence optics.

 

I'll see it more like game stages. I passive scouts at first (hence I use binos, vents and camonet), then at stage two I hunt scouts or alone isolated tanks - but 10% doesn't cut it here anyway since I need to get up close and personal - so optics isn't very useful.

 

At stage 3, I attack  with the rest of team or is dead - again optics not very useful.

 

I'll recommend vent, bino  and camonet or stabilizer instead, it's equally useful (but can't be use between tanks withc is why I use camonet).



Syllom #22 Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:34 PM

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Wrong:p
Stab isn't available on 13 90

FliugeRrr #23 Posted 27 January 2014 - 04:40 PM

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1390 best 8t in this game :) (but fullgold)

zigasi86 #24 Posted 27 January 2014 - 05:34 PM

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i love it ;) 

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View Postmolan1976, on 27 January 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

 

I'll see it more like game stages. I passive scouts at first (hence I use binos, vents and camonet), then at stage two I hunt scouts or alone isolated tanks - but 10% doesn't cut it here anyway since I need to get up close and personal - so optics isn't very useful.

 

At stage 3, I attack  with the rest of team or is dead - again optics not very useful.

 

I'll recommend vent, bino  and camonet or stabilizer instead, it's equally useful (but can't be use between tanks withc is why I use camonet).


Surely stages! Stage 2 and 3 will still require more than 1st skill training to contribute.



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View PostSyllom, on 27 January 2014 - 04:34 PM, said:

Wrong:p
Stab isn't available on 13 90


Well, I use camonet, so forgive me for not remembering.

 

It's does however nullify my statement in that regard.



LUNSSI #27 Posted 06 February 2014 - 02:06 AM

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I love the amx series so far.

 

12t,1375 and 1390 all amazing tanks

 

I used vents camo net and bincos on the 12t and 1375 but now I use GLD, vents and optics on the 1390 and its amazing.

 

I do 1 or 2 early spots at start of game usually asking arty or tanks to fire on a location. then i go spot in location I know I cannot be hit or I counter enemy scouts. Ive usually allways kill the enemy scouts or at least help killing them.

 

After that i harrass mediums and heavies and try to draw fire from them. I shoot flanks and stay safe until mid to late game and thats when the magic begins.

 

you can troll tanks that are isolated especially e100/maus because when parked alongside they simply cannot shoot you! you can kill half hp tanks in 1 clip with ease once you are into them.

 

stay alive stay safe and above all react fast.

 

you cannot play this tank and peform well without great map awareness,

 

oh and carrying 50/50 gold ammo splitt helps alot too ;)


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moomoo2 #28 Posted 16 February 2014 - 01:08 PM

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The 13 90 is a fickle beast, there really is no room for error.

Play the 3 part game as has been said before.

Passive scout with binos

Flank and confuse the enemy

Be a vulture on the weak and lonely.

 

Reload when you can afford 40 seconds, even if you have 4 shells. Sometimes a nice meaty Tier X will show you their butt and it's nice to slam 6 shells into it.

 

I run Vents, Binos and spall liner as arty hates you and everyone wants to ram you if you get too close.

 

Still looking for my Ace tanker on this, but I did play it mostly before the badges came into force.



MetalManiac69 #29 Posted 18 February 2014 - 03:35 PM

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spall liner on a light tank is a no-go... personally, I have never heard of anyone using spall liner on light tanks and I don't see a reason why anyone would.

 

if you're getting hit by arty, you're doing it wrong (TBH, if you're getting hit by anything, you're doing it wrong), same goes for ramming...

 

the best setup for 1390 is Vents, Optics and GLD/Binos, anything else is just WRONG. don't tell me it depends on the play style, because it doesn't. Optics are a must on any light tank, Vents (because you can't mount a rammer on autoloader), and Binos if you like to camp A LOT, or GLD if you like to do loads of damage.

 

anything else is just crippling the tank and not playing it to its strengths...


Edited by MetalManiac69, 18 February 2014 - 03:35 PM.


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View PostMetalManiac69, on 18 February 2014 - 03:35 PM, said:

spall liner on a light tank is a no-go... personally, I have never heard of anyone using spall liner on light tanks and I don't see a reason why anyone would.

 

if you're getting hit by arty, you're doing it wrong (TBH, if you're getting hit by anything, you're doing it wrong), same goes for ramming...

Spall Liner also gives protection against crew damage, which stacks with the bonus from Large First Aid Kit. Not losing your Driver or Commander is considered a good thing. As for ramming, not a good tactic with an AMX perhaps but the German lights are good at it AFAIK.

 

That said, I'll agree that everything else is better.



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13 90 with vert would be super Its a very good light tank best t8 It is not a scout tank in my opinion its a light flanker arty killer and great antiscout Active scouting is stupid in this beast as is with amx 12t and amx 13-75 theese tanks are too slow turning to react and dodge shells but passive scouting and harrasing HT and Td is great The most annoying enemy is a lanned map without any real chance of out flanking and braking between the lines I really hate hidden village abbey komarin as those are camper friendly

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View PostMetalManiac69, on 18 February 2014 - 03:35 PM, said:

spall liner on a light tank is a no-go... personally, I have never heard of anyone using spall liner on light tanks and I don't see a reason why anyone would.

 

if you're getting hit by arty, you're doing it wrong (TBH, if you're getting hit by anything, you're doing it wrong), same goes for ramming...

 

the best setup for 1390 is Vents, Optics and GLD/Binos, anything else is just WRONG. don't tell me it depends on the play style, because it doesn't. Optics are a must on any light tank, Vents (because you can't mount a rammer on autoloader), and Binos if you like to camp A LOT, or GLD if you like to do loads of damage.

 

anything else is just crippling the tank and not playing it to its strengths...

I use spall liner, it isn't wrong and it works fine for me as things as fast and maneuverable as me like T-54s and Obj things will ram me given half a chance and people like to use HE on the AMX as it has no armour.

I also like mayo on my french fries and cinnamon sprinkled on my cappucino.

I hope this concept doesn't melt your brain as it really isn't crippling the tank, I press W and it goes forward just as well as it does without the liner.



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View Postmoomoo2, on 21 February 2014 - 08:51 AM, said:

I use spall liner, it isn't wrong and it works fine for me as things as fast and maneuverable as me like T-54s and Obj things will ram me given half a chance and people like to use HE on the AMX as it has no armour.

I also like mayo on my french fries and cinnamon sprinkled on my cappucino.

I hope this concept doesn't melt your brain as it really isn't crippling the tank, I press W and it goes forward just as well as it does without the liner.


I am amused by this, but sadly it seems I'm out of positive votes...



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View Postmoomoo2, on 21 February 2014 - 08:51 AM, said:

I use spall liner, it isn't wrong and it works fine for me as things as fast and maneuverable as me like T-54s and Obj things will ram me given half a chance and people like to use HE on the AMX as it has no armour.

I also like mayo on my french fries and cinnamon sprinkled on my cappucino.

I hope this concept doesn't melt your brain as it really isn't crippling the tank, I press W and it goes forward just as well as it does without the liner.


:ohmy:, mayo on your french fries, you most probably use the metric system and have coffeeshops in you country too.:tongue:

 

Crippling the vehicle, maybe not.

On the other hand, most tank commanders at the keyboard are trying to enhance the strengths of a given vehilce.

A spall liner on AMX 13 90 does not add to any of the vehicles strenghts, i.e. camo or view range.

 

The spall liner will improve certain situations indeed, i. e. being hit or being rammed.

A prerequisite to being hit, is being spotted. A prerequisite to not being spotted is crew skill, modules and skills of the commander at the keyboard.

A prerequisite to being rammed by opponents, also comes down to crew skills (maneuverabilty) and skills of the commander at the keyboard (awareness).

 

The overall mantra for any LT commander is: Do not get hit! Do not get hit! ...

Hence the correct crew training, the correct module setup and the actions of commander at the keyboard should take this mantra as the main guidance to successful LT gameplay.

 

IMO, there really is much more to successful LT8 gameplay than just pressing W.

But hey as long as you enjoy it, it is fine.


Edited by azakow, 21 February 2014 - 02:25 PM.


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Victory!
Battle: Fjords 21/02/2014 16:37:53
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Battle achievements: Sharpshooter, Mastery Badge: "Ace Tanker"

 

Not bad for a crippled Spall Liner destroyed mess of a tank where I only press W.

 

http://wotreplays.co...omoo2-amx_13_90


Edited by moomoo2, 21 February 2014 - 05:54 PM.


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View Postmoomoo2, on 21 February 2014 - 05:50 PM, said:

Victory!
Battle: Fjords 21/02/2014 16:37:53
Vehicle: AMX 13 90
Experience received: 2,167
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Battle achievements: Sharpshooter, Mastery Badge: "Ace Tanker"

 

Not bad for a crippled mess of a tank where I only press W.

Amazing, Congratz!

It seem there really is more to it.:tongue:



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View Postazakow, on 21 February 2014 - 05:54 PM, said:

Amazing, Congratz!

It seem there really is more to it.:tongue:

I totally understand where you're coming from, but my play style is not particularly suited to passive scouting. I'm just an awkward sod who wants to fight everything.

 

You are right about the not being seen and AMX 13 90 players should listen to the advice given. by you and other wise folks :smile:

 

 



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I still stand at my statement that GLD, Vents & Optics is the unbeatable setup for 1390, 1 good game doesn't prove anything.

 

If you're getiting rammed, you're doing it wrong, if you're getting hit by arty (or anything) you're doing it wrong. you're missing the point of a LIGHT tank...



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View PostMetalManiac69, on 21 February 2014 - 07:27 PM, said:

I still stand at my statement that GLD, Vents & Optics is the unbeatable setup for 1390, 1 good game doesn't prove anything.

 

If you're getiting rammed, you're doing it wrong, if you're getting hit by arty (or anything) you're doing it wrong. you're missing the point of a LIGHT tank...

At what point did I say you are wrong? I clearly stated to azakow that people should listen to the other people that promoted the not to be seen play-style.

 

Sentence repeated so you can get off your high horse for a few seconds:

"You are right about the not being seen and AMX 13 90 players should listen to the advice given. by you and other wise folks :smile:"

 

I play the AMX 13 90 the way I see fit, it works fine for me and I enjoy it, it isn't wrong for me. Enjoy your own fun however you want but listen to the correct advice from more experienced players to improve your chosen play-style. 

 

After 300 games in the 13 90 I feel comfortable with what I'm doing, happy??



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no... :izmena:




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