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Teadaemon #1 Posted 06 January 2014 - 11:49 PM

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Ok, I've been doing the IS-6 mission, and this evening I've got close, so close. I need ~2.5k XP with the ARL 44, and ~7.5k XP with the Type 58.

 

Everything seems to be going ok, I've just been knocked out in a battle in the ARL 44 when I hear a big 'thud', some stuff falls off the top of my tower case, and shortly afterwards (while I'm trying to work out what's going on), my computer shuts down.

 

It turns out that the thud was my rather large CPU fan and heatsink falling off the CPU and landing on my graphics card, as the plastic bracket holding them in place had fractured. I'm hoping that the computer had shut down due to the BIOS' thermal overload protection (it's worked before), as if it hasn't I probably need a new CPU.

 

Anyway, I just thought I'd post on here and vent a bit, as in the 16 years since I built my first computer, and with several years as a professional sysadmin, this is the first time I've come across this particular mode of failure. Could it have happened at a worse time? Maybe my PC has decided it doesn't want to play WoT any more and is determined that I don't get the IS-6?



AN225 #2 Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:06 AM

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Now that is weird :D

 

I am not that old but for as long as i am in PC world i have never seen things falling apart in pc. Did you identified why it broke?

Was it the bad screws? Heatsink fail? Or just, the, what it the damned word, thread maybe? inside the MB warn out?

 

edit: oh look, rereading your post i found out why it broke. Now, coffee or sleep, i think i will go to sleep.

My reading skills failed badly..


Edited by AN225, 07 January 2014 - 12:25 AM.


DutchNeon #3 Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:13 AM

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CPU heatsink / fan hold by plastic brackets? What mobo? That sounds weird. My Mobo has to a carry a Scythe Mugen v2 and it's in place with a metal bracket and screws. Intel socket btw.

Edited by DutchNeon, 07 January 2014 - 12:14 AM.


1ncompetenc3 #4 Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:15 AM

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Your rather large CPU heatsink was held in place by a plastic bracket? Sounds safe and secure.

Teadaemon #5 Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:15 AM

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It was a fracture of the plastic lug on the bracket that the heatsink was attached to. I haven't examined the fracture surfaces in detail, but my suspicion is that it's fatigue related - the entire weight of the heatsink and fan hangs off that lug, and the fan ensures that it's subjected to constant vibration.



GemmaLou #6 Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:17 AM

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oh bad luck :(

Teadaemon #7 Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:18 AM

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I can't remember the exact model (it's been a while since I built the system), but it's a Gigabyte board, with an AM2+ socket. To be fair, I was trying to remember when I last replaced the motherboard and CPU, and I think it was mid 2009, so it's lasted fairly well.

DutchNeon #8 Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:19 AM

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Could do some testing with an open case and a big fan blowing on the CPU. Then check the temps on idle during Windows on stuff. Wouldn't recommend it but heh. Or is the GPU KIA by the smash?

 

Edit:

 

AM2+ uses a plastic bracket as a stock bracket that comes with the mobo...

 


Edited by DutchNeon, 07 January 2014 - 12:23 AM.


Teadaemon #9 Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:25 AM

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View PostDutchNeon, on 07 January 2014 - 12:19 AM, said:

Could do some testing with an open case and a big fan blowing on the CPU. Then check the temps on idle during Windows on stuff. Wouldn't recommend it but heh. Or is the GPU KIA by the smash?

 

I've got a new bracket hopefully arriving in the post on Wednesday (and I might pop in to the local computer shop tomorrow and ask if they've got one handy, perhaps from a scrap motherboard). I'm not going to attempt to start it up without a CPU fan properly fitted, but once I can do that I'll see what the damage is.

 

My other half did say "perhaps it's time to upgrade your PC", but I'm going to avoid that unless I absolutely have to (strange behaviour I know, but work's a little quiet at the moment and I'd rather avoid the expense if I can.)



DutchNeon #10 Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:35 AM

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Wouldn't recommend it anyway. The CPU might get damaged before the PC is shutdown based on too high temps :teethhappy: I've killed an old Pentium 2 by removing the CPU fan and running P95 to stress it. Was amusing how fast the thing started to bake. And the smell... ugh.

Edited by DutchNeon, 07 January 2014 - 12:38 AM.


Elhazzared #11 Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:38 AM

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Let's hope your graphics card isn't damaged from that. Sometimes damage isn't evident to the naked eye but so long as it was only the plastic bracket, it's ok, otherwise you'll have extra expenses and at that point you might as well do all the upgrading your thought of before... but again let's just hope for the best.

Aim_Drol #12 Posted 07 January 2014 - 01:53 AM

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A) Who cares? It's not like you're the first person ever with a hardware problem.

B) Why is that topic in World of Tanks official forum → European Community → English Speaking Community → Forum → General Discussion? Isn't there a rant thread somewhere in the off topic forum?

 

So please,



Venatacia #13 Posted 07 January 2014 - 01:59 AM

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Maybe it was the amount mice you have running around the fan wheel. I only have two but three to four mice could be weighty. More so if you over feed them.

BrokenWing #14 Posted 07 January 2014 - 11:00 AM

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Back in the days of the free T34 grind my graphics card started to go all glitchy and threw up all sorts of strange artifacts on screen, followed by multiple freezes etc.

 

In the end I bought a new graphics card, lost a few days waiting for it to come and then had to grind like hell to get the last XP.

 

Many sleepless nights and £100 spent for a "free" tank... well I thought it was worth it. Card was obviously duffed.

 

So PC upgrade time for a "free" IS-6? Hehe, I feel your pain. Hope it all works out.



protos #15 Posted 07 January 2014 - 11:04 AM

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well, some time ago my cpu heatsink decided to make a brake for it as well :teethhappy: Luckily nothing was damaged, had to take some time yesterday as well to figure out how it is attached properly as I had decided to complete clean my pc.

Edited by protos, 07 January 2014 - 11:07 AM.


Sgt_Guffy #16 Posted 07 January 2014 - 11:47 AM

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The Computer hardware equivalent to "The Wheel fell off."

 

Bu**er when that happens *sigh*



Gruminmor #17 Posted 07 January 2014 - 11:55 AM

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Ouch! 

 

My heatsink is pretty big and quite heavy, and I've often pondered the outcome if what happened to you would happen to me. That must suck big time. My card, while it is a few years old, is still expensive and very big. 

 

Gonna go put some masking tape over it, just in case ;) 



xxNihilanxx #18 Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:03 PM

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Rooting for you, OP, hoping for a best case scenario.

xxNihilanxx #19 Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:05 PM

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View PostAim_Drol, on 07 January 2014 - 12:53 AM, said:

A) Who cares? It's not like you're the first person ever with a hardware problem.

B) Why is that topic in World of Tanks official forum → European Community → English Speaking Community → Forum → General Discussion? Isn't there a rant thread somewhere in the off topic forum?

 

So please,

 

You do realise that not only is it just as easy to be nice to people as it is to be nasty it also feels a whole heap better inside? Try it one day, it isn't toxic (though it can get addictive).


Edited by xxNihilanxx, 07 January 2014 - 12:06 PM.


BrokenWing #20 Posted 07 January 2014 - 12:06 PM

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I went for the H100i water cooling option in the end, quite lightweight and VERY securely attached to the motherboard via brackets and screws and other gubbins.

 

You need the right tower for it though, to be able to fit the radiator.

 

Some of those air cooling thingummys are MAHOOSIVE, I'm not surprised that the odd one falls off.






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