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Berbo #1 Posted 10 February 2014 - 02:25 PM

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Please post any unresolved draw games, reports of cheating or breach of the rules here, within 15 minutes of the end of your game. They will be checked throughout the tournament.

Must attach screen shot of the Team Score results screen, your screenshot can be found in your game folder /screenshots.
Please use the "Spoiler" feature for the screenshots.
They can be hosted on many websites, for example http://imgur.com/

Include the following:
- Your team name, Enemy team name
- Reasons for submitting report
- Screenshots of results from all rounds (Put the pictures in the spoiler tag!) - include screenshots of the results page showing both teams fully!

What NOT to do:
- Do NOT post a report if the result is correct (even if enemy team broke rules, but you still won, usually no report is needed)
- Do NOT post unrelated things - post your report and wait for mod response
- Do NOT post multiple times for one match, unless someone reported your team and you are countering the report 


0xyde #2 Posted 19 February 2014 - 09:45 PM

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View Postghost4545, on 19 February 2014 - 09:07 PM, said:

PanzerdivisionOst vs. Royal_1ST

 

They had 3 tanks in the cap-zone and 3 tanks on the hill, what doesn't fit with the 5 player's rule.

The proof:

 

 

View Postghost4545, on 19 February 2014 - 09:20 PM, said:

here is the result page:

 

 

 

Well, looks like the mod you are using is slightly confused by the Encounter mode.

 

It's easy to check though.

Post a link to the wotreplay where you uploaded your replay and we can see the cap points on each tank and see how many were actually capping.



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View Postwebmourek, on 19 February 2014 - 09:09 PM, said:

This is draw. And we must win I think... Look at this. Elita_CZTR against KEKS mit Korn. We got 2 survive tanks and they only 1.

 

webmourek

 

As stated in the rules:

 

"If a game ends in a draw, we will use the 16 tier points rule."

 

So you need an advantage of at least 2 tanks alive and also you need to be in a BO3 match, this was a BO1 where both teams are disqualified in case of a draw.

 

View PostDeutscherSoldatHF, on 19 February 2014 - 09:09 PM, said:

19.02.2014 20:41    One Shot Shox    0:1    Rinderwahnsinn

 

Hello

We had technical problems at the start of battle. One of our players was disconnected and could not join the game and two other players had lag. We were thus only 4 against 5 opponents. Something like this should not happen.
We call for a revanche for this game.

Thank you very much

DeutscherSoldatHf (Team One Shot Shox)

 

I agree something like this should not happen - however if there was server lag it was causing problems for both sides.

If your friend could not connect on his own, it's not something we can do anything against and that's why you can have subs in your team for such an occasion.

 

Either way, the games cannot be replayed at this stage of the tournament with 2000 other teams waiting for their matches.

 

View PostTobias3061994, on 19 February 2014 - 09:14 PM, said:

http://wotreplays.co...ba976197ee50333

Wie Kann es seins das. Nur zwei cappen Aber 3 Werden gewertet?

mein team name panzerbattalion 383

gegner team heist :PATRONI

 

Seems like a similar problem to what ghost4545 described - your mod is either out of date, or just plain wrong about how Encounter works.

 

If you look into details at the replay you sent you can see that only 2 of the enemy tanks have any cap points on them.



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View Postghost4545, on 19 February 2014 - 09:51 PM, said:

Well, it was slightly too fast for 2 tanks in the cap 

 

 

 

Well, I can't disqualify a team based on someone feeling the cap was "slightly too fast".

 

In the replay you linked you can see that only the 110 and the IS3 have any Base capture points, so no other tank was in the cap.



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View Postwebmourek, on 19 February 2014 - 09:58 PM, said:

But it is not written there..... There is only this rule but no when...

 

Victory conditions:
  • Each battle lasts for 10 minutes.
  • To win a game, the team will need to destroy all enemy vehicles or capture the enemy base.
  • The first rounds will be played in the “Best of 1” mode.
  • Subsequent rounds will be “Best of 3”. Under this rule, a team which wins two games wins the match.
  • The final is “Best of 5”. Under this rule, a team which wins 3 games wins the match. 
    • If a match ends in a draw, both teams will be disqualified for passive play in a best of 1 game. In best of 3 and best of 5 matches the below rule applies.
  • If a game ends in a draw, we will use the 16 tier points rule. "In the case of a draw, the total tier points of surviving tanks will be added up for each team. A team with 16 tier points advantage over their opponent will be the winner" This must be proven with a screen shot posted on a specific forum within 15 min of the game’s end - if there is no clear winner then both teams are disqualified unless an admin/judge/referee decides differently.
  • Starting spawn points for all games will be automatically allocated by the system
  • Games cannot be replayed unless an issue with the set up causes a problem. Unfortunately we will be unable to restart games due to disconnections or PC crashes
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  • But here is nothing about BO3. we will fight if we knew it !!!

 

 

"If a match ends in a draw, both teams will be disqualified for passive play in a best of 1 game. In best of 3 and best of 5 matches the below rule applies."

 

It's line 6 of the grey text.

 

And you were not in a BO3 yet, you were still in a BO1 round.

 

But this is a topic for the Questions and Answers thread:

http://forum.worldof...stions-answers/

 

Please don't post anything in Rules Enforcement that is not reports about draws etc.

 



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View Postbyefly, on 19 February 2014 - 10:45 PM, said:

 

http://imgur.com/mw6lsBb

Hi, in our second match we had 1 vs 1 tanks remaining, 13 90 vs our is3, like i show in this image, 13 90 was about one shot and our is3 did only 217 damage with gold, how is that possible?

because of that we lost the 2nd game

 

Unfortunately this is unresolved as neither team had a 16 tier point advantage in the draw game. Both teams are out.

 

View PostSteve1401, on 19 February 2014 - 10:48 PM, said:

Team 1: Murmelhagler gegen Team 2: lukaszdajno

 

Meldung: Resultate nicht definiert

 

Gefecht 1: TEam 1 Gewonnen

Gefecht 2: Unentschieden

Gefecht 3: Team 2 Gewonnen

 

Wer ist jetzt weiter?

 

Unfortunately this is unresolved as neither team had a 16 tier point advantage in the draw game. Both teams are out.

 

View Postthe_devz, on 19 February 2014 - 10:52 PM, said:

- D-P-H-3 vs. DDPS

- Reason: we were better... 2nd match was too close, enemy said after the last game: "Good luck in the next round...", so it is their wish i think

"If a game ends in a draw, we will use the 16 tier points rule."

 

Round 1:

 

Round 2:

 

Round 3:

 

 

Unfortunately this is unresolved as neither team had a 16 tier point advantage in the draw game. Both teams are out.



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View PostGeneral_Jeno, on 19 February 2014 - 10:57 PM, said:


- Team: AOD-V | Death Squad vs Contact Front
-Reason: 1:0 Win + Draw with 16 point rule = 2:0 to AOD-V

Our team won by the 16 tier point rule, please confirm.

We won the first match by destroying all tanks and the second match was a draw

- Screenshots of results from all rounds

Spoiler

 

Correct 16 tier point advantage in first game, AOD-V move forward.



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View PostYakuZi, on 19 February 2014 - 10:58 PM, said:

Hello,

 

Notorious I.S.3   vs.  The Invisible Five:

 

Result: 0:2 for The Invisible Five

 

Round 1: Draw

 

Spoiler

 

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Round 2: Win for Invisible Five (16 Points Rule)

 

Spoiler

 

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Round 3: Win for Invisible Five

 

Spoiler

 

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Result: 0:2 for The Invisible Five

 

Regards YakuZi

 

Correct, Invisible Five move forward.



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View PostJan011986, on 19 February 2014 - 10:44 PM, said:

Die Granatenjockey vs  Georgian Crusaders!

 

In the first match they are only fight with 2 T8 Tanks... so thye dont have 24 min points

 

 

 Round 1

 

Round2

 

 

We are investigating this, since it should not be possible to even enter the battle with 2 Tier 8 tanks.

 

However, even if the enemy team could not enter the battle they would get a Technical Defeat for ONE battle, after which they would still play the other two and the result would be the same.

 

We will keep the current result for now.



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View PostTheRazorblade, on 21 February 2014 - 05:10 PM, said:

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Yeah sorry, I derped when posting the reply.

Your post is not deleted it is just hidden and you were right, you are 2:0 and move forward.



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View Postloolas, on 21 February 2014 - 06:21 PM, said:

Pixel Players vs Pulahara 
1 st round was win by 16 points 


 

2nd round WIn


 

Pixel Players advances to the next round. 



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Why my team isnt in tournament tree? We won this match 2:0 and team isnt in tree.

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Hello Team BE4ST Team 3 won the match drew a predominance of 16 points with a team Aspik us four tanks were opposing team 2 enclose a result screanshoty

 

 

 


Edited by Klasch, 21 February 2014 - 07:59 PM.


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Hello,

 

we played 2 min ago against PEWC, and they made on bad side (south) a draw. And this was intentionly!

 

Spoiler

 

We also can upload the replay, so you can see that it was intentionly.

In every round they provoked a draw. That takes us and other players the fun at this CUP.

 



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Helo......

My team DIVOCACI vs .HEFDY protest at the 3rd battle at encounter....

here is replay

http://wotreplays.co...f-djdavecz-is-3

 

3x tanks Cap in the base but it counts only 2 tanks


Edited by DJDavecz, 21 February 2014 - 07:52 PM.


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View Postloolas, on 21 February 2014 - 07:40 PM, said:

Why my team isnt in tournament tree? We won this match 2:0 and team isnt in tree.

 

What is your team name?

Also, there are two tournament trees, if you scroll to the bottom of the first one there is another one.

 

If you have further questions ask them in the Questions&Answers.

 

View PostKlasch, on 21 February 2014 - 07:41 PM, said:

Hello Team BE4ST Team 3 won the match drew a predominance of 16 points with a team Aspik us four tanks were opposing team 2 enclose a result screanshoty

http://screenshooter...9692411/yjmxepc

http://screenshooter...9692411/cgkgjsf

 

Please upload the results of all battles between you and your opponent.

If you need more info look at the first post in this thread.



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View PostKejjak, on 21 February 2014 - 07:34 PM, said:

Pixel Players advances to the next round. 

This is post by Kejjak about my team.
Pixel Players post one Up erlier. 



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View PostDJDavecz, on 21 February 2014 - 07:48 PM, said:

Helo......

My team DIVOCACI vs .HEFDY protest at the 3rd battle at encounter....

here is replay

http://wotreplays.co...f-djdavecz-is-3

 

3x tanks Cap in the base but it counts only 2 tanks

 

There are only two tanks with any capture points on the enemy team (as you can see on the stats in the replay).

 

I would suggest not using the mod that displays that because it is broken in encounter. You can check previous pages for other reports with the same problem.

 

View PostMartTuck, on 21 February 2014 - 07:49 PM, said:

Spoiler

 

 

Unfortunately, neither team has 16 tier points advantage in a draw here, so neither team moves forward.



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View PostDrecksopfer, on 21 February 2014 - 06:47 PM, said:

Hello,

 

we played 2 min ago against PEWC, and they made on bad side (south) a draw. And this was intentionly!

 

Spoiler

 

We also can upload the replay, so you can see that it was intentionly.

In every round they provoked a draw. That takes us and other players the fun at this CUP.

 

Hi Drecksopher,

 

I can see that the first round has been won by your team by 16 Tier point advantage, so please upload the other Screenshots of the other matches and lets see if you have won or it is a draw first!

 

I do understand defensive play style can be sometimes frustrating however this is part of the gamestyle/tactic element and it can not be ignored.  Also, keep in mind that 2e can not do anything about teams/players behaviour. We believe that everybody is in for the fun and to win if possible, so draw is neither good option for both.  

 

Ps: please consider that you dont have to destroy all the tanks of opponents, you can cap to win with the number advantage or win with 16 tier point advantage :honoring: 

 






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