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Poll: and the best medium tank is... (200 members have cast votes)

wich do you think is the best medium tank?

  1. T-54 (137 votes [68.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 68.50%

  2. Panther 2 (31 votes [15.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.50%

  3. Perishing. (32 votes [16.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.00%

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tetronic #1 Posted 29 April 2011 - 09:05 PM

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i have looked at the stats of all the 3 best medium tanks, origionaly to see wich i should buy, and have decided that the T-54 is the best medium. i doodled the stats down, and did this.

Soviet                                          
T-54.

most speed.
most armour.
fastest rotating turret.
most signal range.
most shell penetration.

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Panther2

most HP
fastest shooting.
most veiw range.

American
Perishing

most shell power.


so, the T54 has the most good points about it.
this is based on the tank with the most good things about it. so its up to you wich stat you are best with.
this is also based on the tanks with no upgrades.
but what the hell, its only a tank, and how much skill you have is more important.

Chaos123 #2 Posted 29 April 2011 - 09:10 PM

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Noob tanker + t-54=average tanker
Pro tanker + t-54=unreal tanker

Noob tanker + P2/Per= noob tanker
Pro tanker + P2/Per= average tanker

Balanced? Fair? No.

drenzul #3 Posted 29 April 2011 - 09:13 PM

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And if you believe Chaos then you'd believe anything.

T-54 is the toughest but P2 is awesome at long range or as a wide sniper.

T-54 is certainly a lot easier for noob to use but with a good player at the controls I would say they are fairly close to equal. The T-54 may come out slightly ahead but not by that much.

tetronic #4 Posted 29 April 2011 - 09:15 PM

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wow, people are already arguing with each other. its a talent you will only find on these forums :)

Zenith #5 Posted 29 April 2011 - 09:15 PM

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By stats alone? T-54, hands down.

By player skill? Any of them, depending on the situation.

Still, I have read some disturbing feedback concerning the Panther being UP for the tier it faces, especially against T-54s. This is hardly surprising though, as if we were to place a Panther against a T54/55 in reality, I would put all of my money on the T-54 wiping the floor with it. The Panther was an excellent tank for the times, but the T-54 was developed much later, so there's really no contest (in reality).

Chaos123 #6 Posted 29 April 2011 - 09:24 PM

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View Postdrenzul, on 29 April 2011 - 09:13 PM, said:

And if you believe Chaos then you'd believe anything.

T-54 is the toughest but P2 is awesome at long range or as a wide sniper.

T-54 is certainly a lot easier for noob to use but with a good player at the controls I would say they are fairly close to equal. The T-54 may come out slightly ahead but not by that much.
Oh look whos here,the german defender who went russian tanks?
If you like them so much why didnt ya go german 1st  ;)

tetronic #7 Posted 29 April 2011 - 09:26 PM

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and the poll sais... screw the panther 2. is there anybody but a few people who actual like it? (along with it being 100% fugly.

Darzok #8 Posted 29 April 2011 - 10:31 PM

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IF the dev's are to be belived the pershing is the best over all but given how they clamed old Spg was balanced with there 100% pin point shots a few months ago its clear there version of the game is not the one we play.

Over all the T-54 just owns both the Pershing and Panther 2 in every way but sniping at max range thats where the panther 2 is best but with how screwed sight is you can rush a T-54 up to like 5 meters and not be seen till you ram them since you could not see each other.

CyberRage #9 Posted 29 April 2011 - 10:35 PM

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Well what can you say, two World War II tanks against a Cold War tank. T-54 wins it without competition.

Le_Petit_Lapin #10 Posted 30 April 2011 - 02:20 AM

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I assume the T54 has the russian trait of having next to no gun depression whatsoever? if so, gimmie the Pershing please.

eLdritchZ #11 Posted 30 April 2011 - 03:40 AM

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Normally I don't like these kind of statements but in WoT it's just written on the walls everywhere...

The Russian Tanks are just better, period... and that is imho because the developers are russians ^^

how about a few facts:

Everything in T8-T10 on russian side wasn't even done being built and tested by the end of the war, while a lot of the T8-T10 tanks on german and US side were, and saw quite some action.

In reality, vision was a big problem in russian tanks due to the design... a flaw that they got rid off only very late in the war. Yet in the game Russian tanks have the same if not better view distance than the other Trees' tanks.

In reality, russian tanks were not all outfitted with Radios through half the war... Only the Company Command Tank had a Radio. Orders were directed to the other tanks of the platoon by flag signal.

In reality, russian tank crews were horrible... their training was subpar and they had very little experience... It was only during the late war period that the russians finally had some Veterans and well trained tankers... yet in the game, their crews are just as good as German and US crews...

The fact that the KV shares a Tier with the M4 Sherman and the Pz IV is a joke...


Of course you might say they didn't go for realism... then again... pretty conveniant that the russian tanks come out ahead in so many of the game's "reality sacrifice" aspects, don't you think? ;)

Akkryls #12 Posted 30 April 2011 - 03:46 AM

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View PosteLdritchZ, on 30 April 2011 - 03:40 AM, said:

The fact that the KV shares a Tier with the M4 Sherman and the Pz IV is a joke...

The fact that the KV shares a Tier with the T1 Heavy is a joke... They're both Tier 5 heavies, and one can kill the other instantly through the frontal armour. Guess which?

As for the topic, T2 Medium Tank all the way. It doesn't get put into stupid unbalanced matchmaking and is fun to drive.

Sharpe #13 Posted 30 April 2011 - 03:57 AM

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Which T9 medium is superior? T-54

For a variety of reasons that have been debated in these forums over and over again.

I'm going down the soviet tree for it!  :Smile-izmena: But then again... I'm going after every nation T9 medium! Probably getting the Panther II first again since that's my baby!

m4inbrain #14 Posted 30 April 2011 - 04:52 AM

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You "forgot" to mention that the PantherII has the one of the best (if not THE best) Gun ingame. In the right hands a PantherII is far more dangerous than a T54, which is Target #1 on all battlefields.

Statwise its better, maybe.. But idk, its just not as fearsome anymore, as it was in CBT. And the best Medium-Tank in the game is the 3002DB, hands down. ;)
And yeah, im going for the PantherII, grinding it at the moment on my Panther.

The only thing that bugs me, is the fact that most of the russian Tanks (especially ISU and T54) are ridiculously overpowered for what they were in real life. The actual T54 ingame (with 120mm frontplating) should not be faster than 30kph or something (as the armor was ditched to 100mm because it was too slow) - and well, the ISU.. Never saw a battle, never fired the BL10, just ONE ISU was build..

Gna. Didnt mean to hijack. Anyway, i like the PantherII the most. Suits my playstyle the most.

Cartman666 #15 Posted 30 April 2011 - 05:00 AM

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Problem is I often lose matches because of stupid T-54 teammates that think their tank is invincible...
Never played a tier 9 medium myself, only got to Panther in the beta and it was a pain to grind to the 8.8 L/71, I recommend grinding for the gun with the Tiger...
From the side of the one fighting against all the mediums I can say the main problem is the mobility of the T-54. It's reverse as fast as forward and acceleration is awesome. If you are able to land one shot on him and hurt him off he goes and you only see his dust...
But still I might go into the german medium line or at least the US.

Edit: best medium is the M4 Sherman with 105mm gun. This thing rocks all tier 5 matches.

m4inbrain #16 Posted 30 April 2011 - 05:45 AM

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My problem with the T54 (and the only problem with it, for that matter) is the fast retracking. I mean, whats the point tracking a T54, if its retracked FASTER than i reload? Theres no point in tracking, because i cant get a good hit on it anyways, thanks to the acceleration its as fast as before at the time i could shoot again.

And thats stupidity (just btw, the Pershing and PantherII cant retrack that fast).

Terrorsatan #17 Posted 30 April 2011 - 05:49 AM

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Best medium is VK3002(DB).
best T9 medium is T-54 or should we call it T-55 with a little T-54?
but wait for the implementation of the revised medium trees both for german and US.

Germans get E50 with 240 effective frontal armour and 1200hp supercharged engine.
US get M46 (prolly with M47 turret)
Rus keeps T-54

m4inbrain #18 Posted 30 April 2011 - 06:26 AM

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Well.. About 2012 i can drive my E50 then. -.-

TukTuk_BOOM #19 Posted 30 April 2011 - 07:15 AM

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View Postm4inbrain, on 30 April 2011 - 05:45 AM, said:

My problem with the T54 (and the only problem with it, for that matter) is the fast retracking. I mean, whats the point tracking a T54, if its retracked FASTER than i reload? Theres no point in tracking, because i cant get a good hit on it anyways, thanks to the acceleration its as fast as before at the time i could shoot again.

And thats stupidity (just btw, the Pershing and PantherII cant retrack that fast).

dont forget if you get the first hit of a T-54 in your P2 (of course you bounces 3 times before and he made it over the map to you in this time),
most of the time you are tracked AND you gets additionals like turret or ammo dmg/loader dead/engine broken! GL HF then.. ^^

so T-54 is best but still missbalanced med. tank out there which is driving below the turf. i drove a elite one beside my elite P2 and both long enough.

but i rly loved my P2. a victory against hordes of T-54 odds (forget dogfights rofl, i mean victorys by teamplay) was like "WOOOHOOOO, NOW IM GOIN OUT TO MAKe SOMe BABYS!!".
a victory in my T-54 was more like "kk, like intended.. *yawns".

but you cant say "noobs in T-54" most of the time. dont blame our beloved cannonfodder pls, just help em friendly to reach heavens gates..
most ppl drive a T-54 because of personal grinding throu all tanks before and if they are still shit on the field, they´re just braindeads - but far off to be a sweet little nubbie.

so:

1. T-54 fu!
2. P2 (good allround performance)
3. Pershie (Nice "Bo0M!" and a bit more agile then P2)

Pyrrhos #20 Posted 30 April 2011 - 07:41 AM

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IRL - Panther II
WoT - T-54




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