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Community #1 Posted 14 February 2014 - 03:28 PM

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Our video series of tips and tactics for Team Battle continues. This episode looks at medium tanks.

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Grand_Moff_Tano #2 Posted 14 February 2014 - 03:38 PM

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Type 59 is good for Team Battles but work best if you have more than 1 as they are good flankers at tier 8.

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LMW #3 Posted 14 February 2014 - 03:39 PM

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Video is obsolete after the patch, no tank moves that fast anymore. All med move like pregnant elephants. You will have to redo that vid totally.

fwths95 #4 Posted 14 February 2014 - 03:49 PM

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View PostLMW, on 14 February 2014 - 04:39 PM, said:

All med move like pregnant elephants

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Ulfhedinn_ #5 Posted 14 February 2014 - 04:06 PM

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Yep, obsolete with this patch. I used to play mediums more than any other tank type and I wasn't bad with them. But with the shrunken 8.11 FOV I find they're simply impossible to play coz I can't see what's going on around me. In fact now the only tank type I can make work is heavy, and that's just by making a B-line for the enemy and ignoring my flanks that I now can't see. Terrible, ill conceived, ignorant, and utterly reckless change, gone from a sophisticated tactical game to Tetris in tanks.

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How often is M26 Pershing used by ESL teams?

Ulfhedinn_ #7 Posted 14 February 2014 - 04:40 PM

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Is ESL even an issue now, considering the official format for ESL is HD widescreen (as per ESL sponsor BenQ and their HD widescreen monitor used for formal ESL tournaments), a format that WOT 8.11 FOV no longer supports (without it making you feel disorientated and ill)?

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Vandheer_Lorde #8 Posted 14 February 2014 - 05:12 PM

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Stop saying pershing has a tough turret armor when it doesnt FFS(its only the gunshield):angry:.

xX_Duble_Xx #9 Posted 14 February 2014 - 05:45 PM

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View Postedger2020, on 14 February 2014 - 05:33 PM, said:

How often is M26 Pershing used by ESL teams?

Often enough to mention it. Pershings are often used on Steppes and Prokhorovka

 



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View PostMaxmk6, on 14 February 2014 - 05:06 PM, said:

Yep, obsolete with this patch. I used to play mediums more than any other tank type and I wasn't bad with them. But with the shrunken 8.11 FOV I find they're simply impossible to play coz I can't see what's going on around me. In fact now the only tank type I can make work is heavy, and that's just by making a B-line for the enemy and ignoring my flanks that I now can't see. Terrible, ill conceived, ignorant, and utterly reckless change, gone from a sophisticated tactical game to Tetris in tanks.

 

It's really not good what they did, but you are just paranoid.



TheKroo #11 Posted 14 February 2014 - 05:51 PM

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Maybe now I will become a decent medium tank driver :hiding:

fun4noone #12 Posted 14 February 2014 - 05:57 PM

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View PostHunter1911, on 14 February 2014 - 05:51 PM, said:

Maybe now I will become a decent medium tank driver :hiding:

Maybe u'll stop searching for attention and stop lying plz, thanks, bye bye



TheKroo #13 Posted 14 February 2014 - 06:00 PM

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View Postfun4noone, on 14 February 2014 - 05:57 PM, said:

Maybe u'll stop searching for attention and stop lying plz, thanks, bye bye

 

I would really appreciate if you would care to elaborate what part of my post you deemed to be a lie or attention search?



Intoxication #14 Posted 14 February 2014 - 06:00 PM

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Tryed this one game mode ~5 times, and mediums don't fit it at all!:facepalm:

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View PostIntoxication, on 14 February 2014 - 07:00 PM, said:

Tryed this one game mode ~5 times, and mediums don't fit it at all!:facepalm:


They fit.

 

This video isn't for unicums. You could expect that, and it's great that's it's not for unicums, they (we) usually have own tactics.

These videos are mostly for yellow and green players who understand basics of tactics and so on, but need some help with other stuff. I think the video is pretty good for them.

 

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View PostxX_Duble_Xx, on 14 February 2014 - 05:45 PM, said:

Often enough to mention it. Pershings are often used on Steppes and Prokhorovka

 

 

Question is, I have t69 with good crew, should I buy Pershing instead and transfer crew there?

(keeping both tanks is out of question, I don't wanna grind 3 skills from 75% on t8)

 

View PostHunter1911, on 14 February 2014 - 05:51 PM, said:

Maybe now I will become a decent medium tank driver :hiding:

 

Maybe :bajan:

 

View PostxX_Duble_Xx, on 14 February 2014 - 06:06 PM, said:


They fit.

 

This video isn't for unicums. You could expect that, and it's great that's it's not for unicums, they (we) usually have own tactics.

These videos are mostly for yellow and green players who understand basics of tactics and so on, but need some help with other stuff. I think the video is pretty good for them.

 

Duble

 

Actually, this videos are good for anyone (no matter his stats) who never played 7/42 format and want to learn basic stuff (as in why people use t1 etc)



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View PostxX_Duble_Xx, on 14 February 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

 

It's really not good what they did, but you are just paranoid.

 

I'm really not paranoid, I tried to make the FOV work but it just doesn't. Every game I'm getting killed by being shot from tanks 10m's to my side or rear that I can't see cuz of the new super-narrow FOV. At least in a heavy I've got some armour to help against that, mediums are just impossible now, at least for me they are. Mediums rely on tactical / situational awareness and this FOV doesn't allow any.

 

And that's just the games I can play - more than 2 or 3 games in a row and I'm getting motion sickness, eye pain, and the beginnings of a migraine. Being extremely annoyed, frustrated, and disillusioned that a game I've paid for a years premium on has suddenly become unplayable on the monitor the ESL recommended for this game (and that I spent £100's on for that specific reason) is not paranoia. If I was paranoid I'd be thinking this was part of some kind of malicious agenda on WG's part. I don't, I just think the Devs that did & authorised this change are incompetent and don't really give a damn. (EDIT, and note I blame the Devs, not our EU team, in fact I feel sorry for them that they're left to deal with the fallout from the various ill-conceived things the Devs do).


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fun4noone #18 Posted 14 February 2014 - 07:09 PM

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View PostHunter1911, on 14 February 2014 - 06:00 PM, said:

 

I would really appreciate if you would care to elaborate what part of my post you deemed to be a lie or attention search?

I told you before on a similar post of yours. Let me use some examples with your tanks and how many battles you played on some of them (top 3):

http://worldoftanks....424-Hunter1911/

 

Lights:

- tier 2 - 405 battles

- tier 8 - 193

- tier 5 - 141

Mediums:

- tier 5 - 158

- tier 5 - 157

- tier 4 - 91

Heavys - from 28 tanks played, u have only 9 with more then 300 battles, one of them is lowe

 

TDs:

- tier 9 - 271

- tier 4 - 139

- tier 6 - 116

SPGs

- tier 7 - 473

- tier 9 - 68

- tier 2 - 17

 

In the last 10 days you played 8 battles,  EIGHT

http://www.noobmeter...20140214_175622

From 6 January till now you played 36 battles

 

Should I continue?

 

You did the same thing dunno if the exact phrase on a similar topic.

 

Since you are some kind of weekend player monthly player, ur statement is false and it's a lie from my pov. I did told you last time almost the same story.

 

Now care to tell me how you'll manage to become a decent medium driver if you play  ~0.8 games per day ?

 

Thanks



Ulfhedinn_ #19 Posted 14 February 2014 - 07:37 PM

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That's harsh fun4noone, especially about a Military (rather than game) expert. What's wrong with occasional players being positive about improving, especially if it helps enthuse others to learn and be better?

fun4noone #20 Posted 14 February 2014 - 08:21 PM

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View PostMaxmk6, on 14 February 2014 - 07:37 PM, said:

That's harsh fun4noone, especially about a Military (rather than game) expert. What's wrong with occasional players being positive about improving, especially if it helps enthuse others to learn and be better?

Bad day at work and I hate liers, that's it. It's not my fault that he is using the same words/phrase to often. I didn't had any "problems" with his post , if today was the first time when I was seeing that phrase.

 

Maybe you are right about being to harsh, but I'm to tired today to even think :sceptic:






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