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FV4202 What was it really? Question for The_Challenger and Community


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Smiley119_NA #1 Posted 15 February 2014 - 07:37 AM

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I'm planning to post a suggestion for the British Med line where the FV4202 will be at T9 (It will be nerfed in said post). However digging around to internet has failed to turn up anything useful (other than this French site I found) but haven't been able to come up with any proper data on this thing. Hoping whether The_Challenger could shed some light on it.

 

 

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ricksbt #2 Posted 15 February 2014 - 08:53 AM

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In the absence of an expert...

 

You may have been doing the wrong type of search. Doing searches on the history of the Centurion will turn up the '40 ton Centurion', FV 4202.

 

Most sites will cite 'used to test concepts used on the Chieftain' but some will give a little more detail. It was shorter by 1 road wheel and had much more slope to its armour, which was made possible by placing the driver in a reclining position. It also had a Mantletless turret, which allowed more gun depression, important if you plan to be fighting a defencive battle on the North German Plain where you will be occupying lots of Hull Down positions.

 

Here is a (the sole remaining unmodified) real one in the Reserve Collection at the Bovington Tank Museum.

 


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Smiley119_NA #3 Posted 15 February 2014 - 09:11 AM

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View Postricksbt, on 15 February 2014 - 12:53 AM, said:

In the absence of an expert...

 

You may have been doing the wrong type of search. Doing searches on the history of the Centurion will turn up the '40 ton Centurion', FV 4202.

 

Most sites will cite 'used to test concepts used on the Chieftain' but some will give a little more detail. It was shorter by 1 road wheel and had much more slope to its armour, which was made possible by placing the driver in a reclining position. It also had a Mantletless turret, which allowed more gun depression, important if you plan to be fighting a defencive battle on the North German Plain where you will be occupying lots of Hull Down positions.

 

Here is a (the sole remaining unmodified) real one in the Reserve Collection at the Bovington Tank Museum.

 

Would be nice to go to Bovington and run a laser scan of the tank inside and out to determine the amount of armour on the tank. Would you by any chance know whether this lonesome example is still in running order or is it now a decorative piece ?



ricksbt #4 Posted 15 February 2014 - 10:54 AM

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Very few Bovington tanks are runners. None of the Reserve Collection, the unrestored exhibits, which is where FV4202 is, are.

 

I think the broken track is a bit of a clue as well.

 

The problem with reading armour values straight off this vehicle is that it is a Concept Testbed. If proceeded with and put into production it would have been likely to have been reworked.

 

Apparently the main reason it is in the game is that WG decided that Chieftain, even in Prototype form, is a Heavy, not a Medium. Which sort of makes sense given its specs and design concept. That then leaves you with a problem about finding a British post-Centurion Medium.

 

Personally, if I had been WG, I would have dropped any idea of a Tier 10 British Med, given us two Heavies and put FV 4202 in as a Tier 8, or more probably 9, Premium. FV 4202 in historical (but assuming a little production development) form fits the requirements for a Premium as it wasn't a primary vehicle and it probably wouldn't be as good as a Centurion 7+. Or bitten the Bullet and called Chieftain Mk 1 or 2 a Medium, after all they call the Matilda a Medium!

 

Thats the FV 4004 Conway in the background by the way. A Centurion with a 120mm L1 gun, designed as a stop-gap until Conquerer but not proceeded with.

 


Edited by ricksbt, 15 February 2014 - 11:18 AM.





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