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LUNSSI #21 Posted 08 March 2014 - 11:13 AM

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View PostL0B0T0MY, on 08 March 2014 - 07:01 AM, said:

You are just too newbie to say anything about closed beta stage game, not to mention about this game with 500 battles. No offence. Its closed beta if you havent noticed. Im also quite sure, WT is too complicated for newbies (like you) when comparing to WoT. WoT is arcade and WT is....Not so arcade.

 

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saxsan4 #22 Posted 08 March 2014 - 11:28 AM

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View PostSapaki, on 08 March 2014 - 10:11 AM, said:

+1 for the English indeed, but Havoc is a physics engine...:tongue:

But in the video they said about extra polygons for tanks and HD graphics. I thought that was part of havoc. I cant wait for wobbling bits on tanks and the new suspension though.



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View PostL0B0T0MY, on 08 March 2014 - 08:01 AM, said:

You are just too newbie to say anything about closed beta stage game, not to mention about this game with 500 battles. No offence. Its closed beta if you havent noticed. Im also quite sure, WT is too complicated for newbies (like you) when comparing to WoT. WoT is arcade and WT is....Not so arcade.

Well its still early to tell how the final WT product will be however for me  right know wot its incredibel more dynamic then WT. The gameplay WT realism have created is incredible boring when you come from wot and even if i spended 45 euro in it i hardly play it anymore. With that said wot is far from perfect either with huge skill balanced between players making 80% of the matches into a snore fest + map design that is pretty much based on that all maps should have 3 chokepoints and fill the map with lakes and mountains so you have a 5x5 square meters to play on.

 

Another thing the engine WT is using is absolutley stunning compare to the big world engine wg has and its pretty pathetic that a game with that amount of players doesent even have multi core support in 2014.

 

 


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View Postshrapnel_bait, on 08 March 2014 - 09:10 AM, said:

I have played the standard version of War Thunder for over a year, so I'm not exactly a newbie at it.

 

Then you should know that in realistic and simulator battles you only have one plane.



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View Postsaxsan4, on 08 March 2014 - 11:28 AM, said:

But in the video they said about extra polygons for tanks and HD graphics. I thought that was part of havoc. I cant wait for wobbling bits on tanks and the new suspension though.

Ye, they will add that too. But Havok will bring destructible buildings and things like that. Update 9.1/9.2 will be epic :glasses:



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Hmm. Are you playing the same WT as i am? In my WT the graphics are insurmountably superior to wot, and in Historical mode you don't respawn.

 

Mind that Wot has "garage battles" on the table, in which, tadaa! you will respawn.

 

And it's not the same type of game. Doing closed betatesting now, and let me tell you. Its not...the...same....type...of...game.

 

So a comparison is really out of place.


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View PostEmperorSafirius, on 08 March 2014 - 11:00 AM, said:

Ye, they will add that too. But Havok will bring destructible buildings and things like that. Update 9.1/9.2 will be epic :glasses:

Good and after that I hope they make more tanks. 



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I couldn't care less about WT - it draws too many similarities to WoT to justify my moving over there and starting the grind all over again. WT may (or may not) be better and more interesting, but I am generally done with this particular genre for foreseeable future. There are some new exciting MMO titles on horizon with completely different setup and completely different kind of challenges that I am looking into right now.

 

I'll keep my WoT account, though, because this game is perfect for casual instant action with tanks.



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View Postsaxsan4, on 08 March 2014 - 12:12 PM, said:

Good and after that I hope they make more tanks. 


Apparently Japanese heavies are next, in the second half of 2014. (ASAP 16)



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As arcade WOT now is better and looks is going to rule in arcade... this made me think in the problem with WOT and his lack of respawn, for me multiplayer Games based in rounds are boring... i remember when in 2000 i discover DOD lol not time enough to send CS to the hell :teethhappy: (even when DOD had some maps that you need play in round mode but in the final version all were remove).

 

Graphics... for me never a problem, again the DOD example for me the Source DOD was and is pure crap compared with the old DOD, yea, the engine is better has phisics and a lot of interesting things but as game was and is very poor compared with the original... i prefer worst graphics and good game than good graphics and poor game... really, after 4 years we CANT SELECT THE MAPS WE WANT PLAY!!! i want this first over a new engine, i dont play to see pretty tanks i play to have a good moment and i cant have a lot with poor MM and playing the map MM wants no the map i want :angry:



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View Postzbing, on 08 March 2014 - 11:13 AM, said:

I couldn't care less about WT - it draws too many similarities to WoT to justify my moving over there and starting the grind all over again. WT may (or may not) be better and more interesting, but I am generally done with this particular genre for foreseeable future. There are some new exciting MMO titles on horizon with completely different setup and completely different kind of challenges that I am looking into right now.

 

I'll keep my WoT account, though, because this game is perfect for casual instant action with tanks.

 

Let me give you a glimmer of hope, in the fact that Historical mode in WT:tanks is a pumped up ww2online, but WITH great graphics. A nice truer RTS i havn't seen in a long time. And clanbattles will be very very interesting, tactically with airsupport.

 

edit: Oh. and the learningcurve and attributes of historical mode, is so hard that there is no chance in hell, the "noobs" and youngones (apart from the demanding), will ever play that mode. That fact alone makes me love it.


Edited by Lepr0n, 08 March 2014 - 12:19 PM.


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View Postarnorwarrior, on 08 March 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:


Apparently Japanese heavies are next, in the second half of 2014. (ASAP 16)

When are we getting British lines or the French Somua or the Sturm tiger line. Those are my most anticipated tanks (Archer is my favourite tank ever made!)



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View Postsaxsan4, on 08 March 2014 - 12:22 PM, said:

When are we getting British lines or the French Somua or the Sturm tiger line. Those are my most anticipated tanks (Archer is my favourite tank ever made!)

Hmm the Sturmtiger 100% isn't coming in 2014. About the french line, there is no news about it. And the british.. hmm maybe soon? I have no idea. Patience young padawan, patience :blinky:



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View PostLepr0n, on 08 March 2014 - 12:16 PM, said:

 

Let me give you a glimmer of hope, in the fact that Historical mode in WT:tanks is a pumped up ww2online, but WITH great graphics. A nice truer RTS i havn't seen in a long time. And clanbattles will be very very interesting, tactically with airsupport.


I'm not sure that comparison with WW2OL stands well. Is WT going to have infantry and huge persistent world?



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View Postzbing, on 08 March 2014 - 11:24 AM, said:


I'm not sure that comparison with WW2OL stands well. Is WT going to have infantry and huge persistent world?

 

well, apart from those 2 things. But they do have nice little antiaircraft machines running around. And the comparison was made as i have yet to find a game that looks better, but feels almost as ww2online, which was the glimmer of hope i wanted to give (suspecting you did indeed play ww2online ;). I don't know how wt plans their clandeal tbh. It is not as wot anyway, and i repeat and will stand by my words that the 2 games, shouldn't be compared.

Heck, i've been here for 4 years, was (and still would be i think) a supertester, and still play this game daily. When i want to blow of steam and ventilate, i turn to WT, as it is so different.

 

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The french lines are the "forever alone" 2 years with the teaser heavy line and nothing... even more they cancel the release of 2 new french tanks to adjust the french line for future alterante lines... i dont remember if was in 2013 summer or early.

 

British... in middle year they plan 2 changes in top tiers, FV4202 and FV heavy receive a replacement... the med is practically 100% heavy depends, sometimes you read they replace it sometimes not... but i dont think we can see a new med or heavy line in 2014 and TD line is a little harder.

 

The SturmTiger not in 2014, they need think more on it... tier 8 or 10 premium or regular... i dont see WG is going to invest a lot of time in a single tank when they have lines to release.

 

Japanese heavies... i am not very excited with them, to be fair i really want see the damn french heavy line released and the changes in the lower tiers to have the base for med line.

 

 

 

 



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Actually I'm quite interested in WT:GF, but I'm not in the closed beta, so I'll just wait until the release. The vids I saw so far look very promising. It's a completely different game compared to WoT.

- no Minimap radar

- no baby-friendly silhouette outlines

--> spot, or spot not. If you don't see it nobody's taking your hand and leading you to it.

- any penetrating shot will very often kill the target outright. 

 

That's pretty much the "realistic gamemode" I've always wanted to see in WoT. 

 

On the other hand, WTGF is gonna be just as terrible a grinder as WoT, maybe even worse. So that's probably a showstopper for me, unless I decide that I want to completely abandon WoT. I just don't have time for two grinder gamers. Just like I already passed on WoWP after briefly testing it in beta.



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View PostEmperorSafirius, on 08 March 2014 - 12:24 PM, said:

Hmm the Sturmtiger 100% isn't coming in 2014. About the french line, there is no news about it. And the british.. hmm maybe soon? I have no idea. Patience young padawan, patience :blinky:


French line was dumped due to lack of interest (edit: France is the least popular nation) according to FTR and probably wont come until they completely exhausted all other possible tanks. Don't expect it before 2016-2018.:hiding:


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To be fair, WT is more arcade even compared with the RO tank combat system... maps of km, you need introduce manual the distance to target to have the aiming correct...

 

WT is going to be less arcade than WOT but is not going to be enough simulator, WOT sacrifice things to made game faster and impresive.

 

Is a question of test WT but after first interest on it when i see videos i lose a lot interest.

 

EDIT: for me no french secondary lines is an insult to players, they release the Chinese line with a lot less interest by players... i want french tanks with no revolver system, i want a heavy or a med in top tiers from french line that i can play as a normal tank.


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View Postarnorwarrior, on 08 March 2014 - 12:33 PM, said:


French line was dumped due to lack of interest according to FTR and probably wont come until they completely exhausted all other possible tanks. Don't expect it before 2016-2018.:hiding:

Ye, I think same goes for chinese TD and SPG line too. Can't say I anticipate them at all :hiding:






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