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PatroneKonsjele #81 Posted 20 March 2015 - 01:39 PM

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View Postlordvader95, on 05 March 2015 - 06:14 PM, said:

can anyone please help me with this tin can they call possibly the best T IX HT. It has nothing compared to any other heavy of the same tier and some tier VIII are even better. And the so called second line pls clear that for me my philospohy for HTs is if it aint good on frontine it aint good at all

 

Not all tanks can be catergorized as HT or MT. French autoloader HT's are not the same as the frontline Russian HT's, Russian IS8 is not the be played as a real Russian HT (more as a MT), you can go on comparing for hours this way. It is exactly this that makes the game. Not everything is the same, not all situations on the battlefield are the same. M103 is a good allrounder, that can do the job in many different situations on the battlefield (maybe not the best but still good). Driving a good allrounder is for me the most satisfying in the game as you have to deal with different maps. A good allrounder is able to be played well on all maps.

_Cheers_ #82 Posted 21 April 2015 - 10:29 PM

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Today I made

 

M103 = 152 battles = 100% Mark of Excellence! :izmena::trollface:

Replay: http://wotreplays.com/site/1817027

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This tank is so aggressive and awesome!

 

 


Edited by The_Un1que, 21 April 2015 - 10:31 PM.


BigCheese128 #83 Posted 29 April 2015 - 12:46 AM

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@The_Un1que you researched all the modules  right from the start?

Dragolax #84 Posted 02 May 2015 - 07:14 PM

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This tank has 254mm armour on the front of its turret, anyone care to share where this maybe as I seem to be penned all over this thing even its mantlet.

Asghaad #85 Posted 02 May 2015 - 09:31 PM

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View PostDragolax, on 02 May 2015 - 07:14 PM, said:

This tank has 254mm armour on the front of its turret, anyone care to share where this maybe as I seem to be penned all over this thing even its mantlet.

 

parts of mantlet that happen to overlap with turret maybe ? :)

 

otherwise its 130mm thick and depends on angles to bounce anything = armor closest to mantlet is actually the weakest point of the turret, well except the roof that is 40mm and therefore triple overmatched by russian 122mm guns ...



PanzerVor87 #86 Posted 06 May 2015 - 08:18 AM

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View PostDragolax, on 02 May 2015 - 07:14 PM, said:

This tank has 254mm armour on the front of its turret, anyone care to share where this maybe as I seem to be penned all over this thing even its mantlet.

 

The mantlet is tough, once I managed to bounce an AP shell from a 183 (that's 310 penetration we're talking), but the rest of the turret is utter garbage - cupola is just weak but is a fairly small target at range, cheeks and roof are thin and can be overmatched by high caliber guns.

Let's just say you can't rely on hull down with M103 as you do with T29/T30/T34 and T32.

Asghaad #87 Posted 07 May 2015 - 06:33 AM

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View Postpihip, on 06 May 2015 - 08:18 AM, said:

 

The mantlet is tough, once I managed to bounce an AP shell from a 183 (that's 310 penetration we're talking), but the rest of the turret is utter garbage - cupola is just weak but is a fairly small target at range, cheeks and roof are thin and can be overmatched by high caliber guns.

Let's just say you can't rely on hull down with M103 as you do with T29/T30/T34 and T32.

 

you cant count on hulldown with T29/T34/T30 either (dunno about T32) as theyr turret roof is again 40mm thick and overmatched by rusian guns, even IS (IS6, 112, hell even KV-85) can penetrate their turret.

PanzerVor87 #88 Posted 07 May 2015 - 07:18 AM

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View PostAsghaad, on 07 May 2015 - 06:33 AM, said:

 

you cant count on hulldown with T29/T34/T30 either (dunno about T32) as theyr turret roof is again 40mm thick and overmatched by rusian guns, even IS (IS6, 112, hell even KV-85) can penetrate their turret.

 

I have been penetrated on the roof like that a couple times, didn't know why though, thanks for clarifying. Doesn't change that most players either go for the cupola (which is a small trolly target) or simply shoot right in the mantlet.

Asghaad #89 Posted 07 May 2015 - 02:46 PM

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View Postpihip, on 07 May 2015 - 07:18 AM, said:

 

I have been penetrated on the roof like that a couple times, didn't know why though, thanks for clarifying. Doesn't change that most players either go for the cupola (which is a small trolly target) or simply shoot right in the mantlet.

 

problem with that is the players that aim for cupola can miss and hit the roof isntead  :)

 

actually best part you can aim is right above the mantlet of T34/30/29 as the armor there is only 200mm with  bit of ricochet inducing strip and right above it is 38mm thick roof.

 

i have destroyed hulldowned T30s in my 112 by aiming at this part



LeeQuid #90 Posted 10 June 2015 - 08:46 AM

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Seriously unimpressed with this tank.

The gun depression is bellow average for american heavies, and turret front is unreliable to say the least.

That turret roof is absolutely pathetic and much easier to hit then the pre-HD is3 roof.The turret cheeks are also penetrable by 260ish pen guns.

I dont think im going to waste 60k exp for the top gun; I know its better then the standard 120mm, but it wont make the tank's weakspots less obvious.



Poddertw #91 Posted 12 June 2015 - 12:44 PM

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was one of the hardest tanks for me.. ppl just shot my turret all the time... gun was silly... didnt like it but hey - I dont say it wasnt playable xD.

rami23 #92 Posted 24 June 2015 - 07:09 AM

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I am extremely disappointed with this tank. I was very motivated when i was grinding t32 . But the non existent armor just broke me. It can't be front line tank in any t6+ games . His side is none existent ..... so you must think ok this must be the FRONT armored type of tank .... nope .... every thing pens ur front ....... every thing . SO you'll say "well ok then it must be a sniper " .......  nope . At least on the #2 turret fully aimed you shoot for the stars ...... So you'll think ohhh ... " it must be a flanker" ...nope 35 top speed . You might say " Hey u have 242 pen on #2 gun and even more on the best you must pen everything" ..... again nope. You find yourself trying to snipe so you don't have to eat every shell from every tank including lights so you aim for weak spots...... 0.4 ...... crap . You think you should have advantage with high pen ..... nope ... you might pen almost all shots but the enemy will pen you EVERY time (even T7- T8)unless their brain dead ..... so no no advantage there.  

The last straw was when a T49 light tank shot me x2 for ~850 dmg each time ......... F THIS TANK. I stopped and moved to my T54E1 -> T57 farm and going to revive my IS and go down the IS3 line. M 103 is completely broken . The cupola on that tank is huge ...... WHY ? All of this tank is a moving weak spot why do we need a huge one on top ...... not that it matters ..... everything will go through your front anyway. 

There is something to be said about the fact that this tank actually works better in t10 games then 8/9 !! Why ? Because in t10 games people will more often ignore you for the sake of more dangerous T10 targets so you might have a chance to survive longer. In t8 games you'll be focused and raped by everything including lights. "Hey look at that 1850 free DMG there ...... lets go pad our stats" ..... 

 

Am closing on the 60K needed for top gun ......... like 5 k XP left ....... will probably skip, shelf the tank, and forget about this experience. And to think that  i had 95k free XP and was 40 k XP from T57 when i decided to go down the m103 line instead looking for a good but not OP (T57) heavy . If i could turn back time ........ 

 

 


Edited by rami23, 24 June 2015 - 07:21 AM.


LeeQuid #93 Posted 20 July 2015 - 04:46 PM

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yep, now after the buffs on the conqueror this tank is pretty much dead....no point in playing it other then grinding the tier 10.

T701 #94 Posted 15 September 2015 - 07:09 AM

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Got lucky and was only tier 9, rest were tier 6-8.

Let me know what would you have done different. I am always looking to improve.



HeatMage #95 Posted 07 October 2015 - 02:44 PM

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I got this tank three days ago. It feels like a weak amored medium sniper tank.

 

Armor? Good against T7 tanks, for T8-10 easy to pen.

 

First gun, nothing we need to speak about. 2nd is ok, hopefully the T10 gun will push my stats a bit higher.

 

With this big pimple on the turret you cannot go hulldown, its like double height as T29/T32.

 

i am really disappointed and i will jump for joy when i get the E5. This is a tank worth to be called a "heavy".



TankkiPoju #96 Posted 27 October 2015 - 02:24 PM

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I don't understand how people can do good in this tank. The tank itself isn't bad as the gun is pretty good... but you get artied all the time since the reverse speed is so slow and the hull armor is pretty bad.

 

Also, maybe I'm unlucky but I'm top tier in about 20% of all games. The rest is just filled with tier 10s.



BelizariusCZ #97 Posted 04 November 2015 - 07:25 PM

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View PostLeeQuid, on 10 June 2015 - 07:46 AM, said:

I dont think im going to waste 60k exp for the top gun; I know its better then the standard 120mm, but it wont make the tank's weakspots less obvious.

 

The top gun helps. The lower aim time + higher accuracy means that you spend less time exposed to enemy fire when you peek over to shoot.

lordbeefy #98 Posted 08 December 2015 - 12:40 PM

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unlocked the top gun yesterday, this tank is lovely with it....really fanastic gun and reasonable chasis...job done.

Aizmael #99 Posted 11 December 2015 - 07:55 AM

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The hull armor isnt the problem, thats actually quite good. But how do you handle this [edited]tin foil roof, that cries: "Shoot me here!" Especially to arty. And furthermore is directly facing the enemy

mikem70 #100 Posted 01 February 2016 - 10:50 AM

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I just want to check something here, I've read the comments above and I think I am in agreement with them, however I just want it confirmed in writing; it is OK to hate this tank? I mean, hate it as much as someone who's just nicked the parking space you were about to reverse into and had been waiting for 5 mins for the person to pull out of. That much, it's ok to hate it that much? I loved the T29, I really enjoyed the T32 (even with the weak gun) but this thing, it's horrendous. I am literally only playing it cos I want the E5. The only time I seem to do well in it is when the enemy are focussed on someone else, it's almost like playing a fat, slow medium, not a front line, in your face, bounce your shells off my turret bitches, kind of tank.





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