Jump to content


Test Server: M24 Chaffee Top Turret Model Change

WoTGuru 9.0

  • Please log in to reply
51 replies to this topic

rptb1 #21 Posted 26 March 2014 - 07:16 PM

    Staff Sergeant

  • Player
  • 13604 battles
  • 423
  • Member since:
    10-31-2011

View Postazakow, on 26 March 2014 - 09:16 AM, said:

The vehicle handling feels different, nimbleness is missing. This might be the test server only. I had two matches on Steppes and Mountain Pass.

The influence of the new turrent on the camo, could not be tested so far.

Now you have me worried, Azakow.  I drove around a test map quite a bit and didn't notice anything, but it was very late at night.  I'll try again and try to get some camo tests done too.

 

Edit: I managed to get on the test server after about 45 minutes.  I can feel a difference in responsiveness but that's the same on all the tanks due to the increased ping time to the Russian test server.  I'm not really detecting any other change in feel, and the Chaffee seems quite capable.  Here are a couple of test replays (and me mucking about).  You will need to feed them to the CT client.

 

Test 1: driving in circles, jinking back and forth, then circling a Tiger, and charging an arty while firing on the move. http://wotreplays.co...e3ca23b78b4761c

 

Test 2: camo in a well-known position in Airfield, then circle-strafing a T-54.  http://wotreplays.co...e3ca23b78b4761c

 

Test 3: More driving around, chasing a Pz 1C, chasing an ELC, circling tanks, auto-aiming and circling, peek-a-boo, driving in town. All feels good. http://wotreplays.co...e3ca23b78b4761c

 

For testing camo, I'll need someone very patient and co-operative on the test server.  I wasn't able to find anyone like that!


Edited by rptb1, 26 March 2014 - 09:49 PM.


IndianaJonnie #22 Posted 27 March 2014 - 12:38 AM

    Corporal

  • Player
  • 8136 battles
  • 136
  • Member since:
    09-10-2011

View Postrptb1, on 24 March 2014 - 09:11 PM, said:

 

....

I think the Chaffee is one of the few interesting corners of the game, in a situation where most tanks from the early days have been "balanced" out, which to my mind means made more uniform and boring.  The Chaffee gets to do extraordinary things in difficult circumstances, and is a real challenge to play well.  It's always interesting.

.....

So, speaking personally, I'd like to keep the brutal MM, the special gun, and the epic things that happen when I'm driving the Chaffee.  By all means, add more US LTs, move the Chaffee to tier 7 if you like, but leave it alone.

 

(But undo some of the indirect camo nerfs, thanks.)

 

Haha, more and more I'm convinced Chaffee drivers demonstrate a little sadomasochism when it comes to this tank.

 

But you got got it right on the head - it's the 'underdog' factor that makes it such an appealing choice. That whole 'punching above its weight' thing which constantly divides the sensation of playing between the extremes of frustration and elation. Yeah, I'll be a little sad too when the Chaffee is simply 'another mid-branch LT in the tree'.

 

 

Indiana



azakow #23 Posted 27 March 2014 - 08:14 AM

    Major General

  • Player
  • 84925 battles
  • 5,202
  • Member since:
    05-23-2011

Been on CT again, it is the ping at 60-90ms (double than usual) and paket loss that drives my impression. The MM on CT is rather enjoyable. :blinky:

Spoiler

 

View PostIndianaJonnie, on 27 March 2014 - 12:38 AM, said:

 

Haha, more and more I'm convinced Chaffee drivers demonstrate a little sadomasochism when it comes to this tank.

 

But you got got it right on the head - it's the 'underdog' factor that makes it such an appealing choice. That whole 'punching above its weight' thing which constantly divides the sensation of playing between the extremes of frustration and elation. Yeah, I'll be a little sad too when the Chaffee is simply 'another mid-branch LT in the tree'.

 

 

Indiana

This!



albee9 #24 Posted 27 March 2014 - 01:14 PM

    Warrant Officer

  • Player
  • 71286 battles
  • 630
  • [ACIDO] ACIDO
  • Member since:
    03-18-2013

View PostIndianaJonnie, on 27 March 2014 - 12:38 AM, said:

 

Haha, more and more I'm convinced Chaffee drivers demonstrate a little sadomasochism when it comes to this tank.

 

But you got got it right on the head - it's the 'underdog' factor that makes it such an appealing choice. That whole 'punching above its weight' thing which constantly divides the sensation of playing between the extremes of frustration and elation. Yeah, I'll be a little sad too when the Chaffee is simply 'another mid-branch LT in the tree'.

 

 

Indiana

 

It is not that, it is just great to see how a T34 chooses to fire to your Chaffee instead of other 4-5 Tier 8 tanks. We are the little animal drives tankers crazy and we like it :ph34r:



IndianaJonnie #25 Posted 27 March 2014 - 10:35 PM

    Corporal

  • Player
  • 8136 battles
  • 136
  • Member since:
    09-10-2011

View Postalbee9, on 27 March 2014 - 01:14 PM, said:

 

It is not that, it is just great to see how a T34 chooses to fire to your Chaffee instead of other 4-5 Tier 8 tanks. We are the little animal drives tankers crazy and we like it :ph34r:

 

I think that's a problem (possibly opportunity?) faced by all lower tier tanks, you're a 'free exp' snack as far as they're concerned....until you get stuck in their throat :playing:.

 

Indiana



Highway_Star #26 Posted 27 March 2014 - 11:42 PM

    Lieutenant

  • Beta Tester
  • 18389 battles
  • 1,797
  • Member since:
    09-23-2010

View PostIndianaJonnie, on 27 March 2014 - 09:35 PM, said:

 

I think that's a problem (possibly opportunity?) faced by all lower tier tanks, you're a 'free exp' snack as far as they're concerned....until you get stuck in their throat :playing:.

 

Indiana


Why are you shitting on it? It's a beast of a tank - perfect apart from the camo value. I just know that WG will destroy it ones it stops being an "end of line tank". Then it'll be bad - but right now it's fine. No sadomasochism at all - I do better in it than most of my other tanks :D



azakow #27 Posted 28 March 2014 - 07:23 AM

    Major General

  • Player
  • 84925 battles
  • 5,202
  • Member since:
    05-23-2011

View PostHighway_Star, on 27 March 2014 - 11:42 PM, said:


Why are you shitting on it? It's a beast of a tank - perfect apart from the camo value. I just know that WG will destroy it ones it stops being an "end of line tank". Then it'll be bad - but right now it's fine. No sadomasochism at all - I do better in it than most of my other tanks :D

I do not think Indiana is shitting on it. He seems to like it as well, in special being underdog.

 

I agree, the uniqness of the vehicle and gameplay might be destroyed.

 

View Postalbee9, on 27 March 2014 - 01:14 PM, said:

 

It is not that, it is just great to see how a T34 chooses to fire to your Chaffee instead of other 4-5 Tier 8 tanks. We are the little animal drives tankers crazy and we like it :ph34r:

View PostIndianaJonnie, on 27 March 2014 - 10:35 PM, said:

 

I think that's a problem (possibly opportunity?) faced by all lower tier tanks, you're a 'free exp' snack as far as they're concerned....until you get stuck in their throat :playing:.

 

Indiana

The matter of being a "free" XP snack commanding lower tiers can be observed in most matches.

LT in general are seen like this by the opponents.

 

On the other hand, what will happen to these opponents in case they ignore an M24 Chaffee starting "to handle" them?

 

Such opponent behavior is also an opportunity for you and for your team.

It can be used to take presure of your allies.

It is also the basis for the "Bait and Prey" game, which works very well on :child: opponents until they reach "yellow"+ status.

At ideal conditions, this can also be used to divide the "hungry" from the crowd and then get stuck in their throat behind the next hill crest or in a "dark" alley.

Rinse and repeat.

 

 


Edited by azakow, 28 March 2014 - 07:24 AM.


IndianaJonnie #28 Posted 28 March 2014 - 09:03 AM

    Corporal

  • Player
  • 8136 battles
  • 136
  • Member since:
    09-10-2011

View PostHighway_Star, on 27 March 2014 - 11:42 PM, said:


Why are you shitting on it? It's a beast of a tank - perfect apart from the camo value. I just know that WG will destroy it ones it stops being an "end of line tank". Then it'll be bad - but right now it's fine. No sadomasochism at all - I do better in it than most of my other tanks :D

 

azakow's got it, chum. I wasn't ragging on the Chaffee, just adding to albee9's comment and saying that it's a wider phenomenon for higher tier tanks to 'tunnel vision' lower tier targets - a tactic that doesn't always work out as 'easy' as the high tier thought it would be.

 

The 'sadomasochism' comment was in regards to the 'extremes' the Chaffee often finds itself in - there are very few 'mediocre' games in the Chaffee. Often, you either cover yourself in glory or, at the opposite end, there are those games with very little gains to be made. Yet Chaffee drivers are a tough-nosed bunch and tend to be more 'disaster game'-proof than others as they recognise you gotta' take the rough with the smooth. Comprende?

 

Indiana



Highway_Star #29 Posted 28 March 2014 - 11:46 AM

    Lieutenant

  • Beta Tester
  • 18389 battles
  • 1,797
  • Member since:
    09-23-2010
Ah I see. You're right about the extremes. Either I get counter scouted at the start of a game and leave with no XP and no creds. Or I dominate and leave with twice as much XP as the guy bellow me. How competent my team is and which map I'm on determines this usually.

Edited by Highway_Star, 28 March 2014 - 11:47 AM.


anonym_kL7qtn3e52MB #30 Posted 29 March 2014 - 11:22 AM

    Lieutenant General

  • Player
  • 0 battles
  • 6,811
  • Member since:
    07-10-2018
Nice buff (if the rest of the stats stay the same, there is still less turret to hit, by other tanks)!

azakow #31 Posted 29 March 2014 - 07:46 PM

    Major General

  • Player
  • 84925 battles
  • 5,202
  • Member since:
    05-23-2011

I thought a sample of "Get stuck in their throat behind the hill crest." would be nice. Nothing special, but just that type of situation mentioned before.

 

What I do not like about the turret is the location of the emblem. My "Queen of Hearts" (behead them all) will not look as nice.



Herr_Hair #32 Posted 03 April 2014 - 09:54 PM

    Private

  • Player
  • 14479 battles
  • 5
  • Member since:
    04-19-2012
Also can't wait for the US LT line extension. BTW what do you guys think of potencial implementation of tier 9 or 10 lights? I would totally play them.

Eila_Juutilainen #33 Posted 03 April 2014 - 11:22 PM

    Colonel

  • Player
  • 21518 battles
  • 3,884
  • [102ND] 102ND
  • Member since:
    11-04-2012

View PostHerr_Hair, on 03 April 2014 - 10:54 PM, said:

Also can't wait for the US LT line extension. BTW what do you guys think of potencial implementation of tier 9 or 10 lights? I would totally play them.


Would be nice, but not going to happen. The Devs already said they had enough issues finding tier 8 LT candidates, so we can forget about 9 and 10.



joyuesp #34 Posted 04 April 2014 - 12:11 AM

    Lieutenant General

  • Player
  • 55588 battles
  • 7,704
  • [KAZNA] KAZNA
  • Member since:
    01-22-2012

View PostHerr_Hair, on 03 April 2014 - 10:54 PM, said:

Also can't wait for the US LT line extension. BTW what do you guys think of potencial implementation of tier 9 or 10 lights? I would totally play them.


lights are meant to be the lowest tier of the battle, there is no point of t9-10 lights when you have tanks like the leo or bat.

View PostCostarring, on 29 March 2014 - 12:22 PM, said:

Nice buff (if the rest of the stats stay the same, there is still less turret to hit, by other tanks)!


dont worry the nerf will come when they add the rest of the lt line like they did with the vk2601



Squadman45 #35 Posted 04 April 2014 - 10:48 AM

    Major

  • Beta Tester
  • 47860 battles
  • 2,809
  • Member since:
    01-20-2011

The true is that the change in turret is a "bug" they return to the T37 turret, as i say many times looks like WG plan for lights is:

 

Tier 5 WWII chaffe

Tier 6 the actual elite chaffe (they dont need change nothing in stats)

Tier 7 M41

Tier 8 T49 light, the M41 with new turret to mount 90mm

 

The main question is... what they plan do with T21 and T71??? here i have 2 teories.

 

1: T21 - T92 - T71: here we have 2 tier 8 (T49 and T71)

2: T21 - T71 - T49: here there is only 1 tier 8 light, T49

 

WG can close USA lights or adding 2 new tanks or 3 new tanks... for me all depends of T92 and if WG want set it as USA premium light tier 7 or as regular tier 7.



Eila_Juutilainen #36 Posted 04 April 2014 - 11:17 AM

    Colonel

  • Player
  • 21518 battles
  • 3,884
  • [102ND] 102ND
  • Member since:
    11-04-2012

View PostSquadman45, on 04 April 2014 - 11:48 AM, said:

The true is that the change in turret is a "bug" they return to the T37 turret, as i say many times looks like WG plan for lights is:

 

Tier 5 WWII chaffe

Tier 6 the actual elite chaffe (they dont need change nothing in stats)

Tier 7 M41

Tier 8 T49 light, the M41 with new turret to mount 90mm

 

The main question is... what they plan do with T21 and T71??? here i have 2 teories.

 

1: T21 - T92 - T71: here we have 2 tier 8 (T49 and T71)

2: T21 - T71 - T49: here there is only 1 tier 8 light, T49

 

WG can close USA lights or adding 2 new tanks or 3 new tanks... for me all depends of T92 and if WG want set it as USA premium light tier 7 or as regular tier 7.


It's a bug because they didn't intend to release it /now/. The new turret model wasn't working correctly (the mantlet was screwy AFAIK). The change is definitely going to happen eventually.

 

The tier 6 of the new line is generally speculated to be T37, which is not actually a Chaffee. It's a proposed replacement vehicle. The T37 turret shouldn't actually fit on a Chaffee because the turret ring size doesn't match.

 

And T21 and T71? I don't see why anything would happen to them. They're probably staying right where they are.

 


Edited by Eila_Juutilainen, 04 April 2014 - 11:22 AM.


joyuesp #37 Posted 04 April 2014 - 02:18 PM

    Lieutenant General

  • Player
  • 55588 battles
  • 7,704
  • [KAZNA] KAZNA
  • Member since:
    01-22-2012

View PostSquadman45, on 04 April 2014 - 11:48 AM, said:

The true is that the change in turret is a "bug" they return to the T37 turret, as i say many times looks like WG plan for lights is:

 

Tier 5 WWII chaffe

Tier 6 the actual elite chaffe (they dont need change nothing in stats)

Tier 7 M41

Tier 8 T49 light, the M41 with new turret to mount 90mm

 

The main question is... what they plan do with T21 and T71??? here i have 2 teories.

 

1: T21 - T92 - T71: here we have 2 tier 8 (T49 and T71)

2: T21 - T71 - T49: here there is only 1 tier 8 light, T49

 

WG can close USA lights or adding 2 new tanks or 3 new tanks... for me all depends of T92 and if WG want set it as USA premium light tier 7 or as regular tier 7.

they either will merge the line with another at t9(like they did with the germans) or they will complete it up to t10 with 2 mids in t9-10(since new t9-10 sells a lot gold for xp conversions)

 

i doubt they remove the t21 and t71.



Squadman45 #38 Posted 06 April 2014 - 12:44 PM

    Major

  • Beta Tester
  • 47860 battles
  • 2,809
  • Member since:
    01-20-2011

I doubt a lot they add lights tier 9-10 no sense in have tanks on this tiers when a med can do their job much better, in tier 9-10 is more usefull a fighter (med tank) than a dedicated scout... and if they add them... WTF do with batchat and leo I?

 

For me they are going to have 2 light lines, only doubt i have is if they leave T21 T71 as they are now conecting T71 with T49 OR they buff T71 to tier 8 level as optional tank to T49 and add a new tank in the T21 line... T92 is a clear candidate, doesnt look like a viable tier 8 and as tier 7 premium... maybe do a better job as regular tier 7 with some buffs.


Edited by Squadman45, 06 April 2014 - 12:46 PM.


rptb1 #39 Posted 09 April 2014 - 02:56 PM

    Staff Sergeant

  • Player
  • 13604 battles
  • 423
  • Member since:
    10-31-2011
The turret change is gone in the latest revision of the test server.

paolomassa #40 Posted 10 April 2014 - 09:15 AM

    Private

  • Player
  • 19297 battles
  • 22
  • Member since:
    10-17-2012

Just have the Chaffee and it is just pure love. Dont care about which turret it has, just don't buff it done!

Had this game yesterday :-)

 

http://wotreplays.co...ssa-m24_chaffee

 

 







Also tagged with WoTGuru, 9.0

1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users